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Old May 26, 2010 | 01:17 PM
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I've been reading the posts on this code and it sounds like it could be a few things. Let me start by telling you that I changed the spark plugs and wires and one coil pack for cylinder 5. The orginal code kept coming up p305 which pointed me to this cylinder. Now after the coil pack it's reading p300. I'm baffled by this and would like any help on this topic that anyone would share.
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Old May 26, 2010 | 01:27 PM
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Hey dj,

Please post up the What your driving, year, Z06 or not, mods etc. Also reset your DIC codes and then drive it and repost all code that come up.

I can tell you that I went down the same road and it ended up being a bad cat on the drivers side. It was covered under the original warrantee 8 yrs 80k miles.

Could be a bunch of things:
-Check all grounds, search Bill Curlee's electrical sticky at the top of the page.
-Check for broken valve springs
-Check voltage for each coil pack and injector
-Check exhaust pressure at the HO2 sensors before and after the cats, before should be about 2 lbs, after should be less if you are running a stock exhaust midpipe
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Old May 26, 2010 | 01:35 PM
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Sorry guys, it's a 2000 convertible. No mods.
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Old May 26, 2010 | 01:36 PM
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Anything happen before the codes started (like a missed high rpm shift)?
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Old May 26, 2010 | 01:37 PM
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I'm getting a raw fuel smell and the car is shaking like it's running one cycliner down.
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Old May 26, 2010 | 01:38 PM
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No, if you rev the rpms up when it drops it sounds like it going to stall
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Old May 26, 2010 | 01:42 PM
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If you put your hand at the exhaust the right side has more pressure than the left.
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No, if you rev the rpms up when it drops it sounds like it going to stall
Mine ran like garbage too but did not have the gas smell. I'd check the valve springs and exhaust pressure.

Have you ever gone thru the grounds and cleaned them all up?
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no, i was looking for the Bill Curlees sticky notes but couldn't find it
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Originally Posted by djbusv
If you put your hand at the exhaust the right side has more pressure than the left.
You have to check the pressure at the manifold since you have a crossover pipe. Since your car is stock, if the cats are bad, you could go aftermarket or just look on the for sale section, should be a few stock pipes for cheap. Aftermarket will cost you a mint and unless you really do your homework, you might be dissapointed. Plenty of threads around with folks on their second or third exhaust because the first was too loud or not loud enough etc.

Unless your into modding your car, beware! Exhuast mods are just the beginning.
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Here is one of the posts that has the grounds shown. This is inside of the sticky, it's on the technical section at the top.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1572287511-post794.html
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I guess you could also have a broken exhaust valve spring not sure how else you might be getting the exhast smell. I ended up taking it to Chevy and asked them to check the pressure, it cost me about 100 bucks but they found the problem right away. I told them NOT to troubleshoot anything I had already checked and spoke to the tech priort o dropping the car off. He was pretty good with Vettes and worked on most that came in.
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P300 is just a random missfire code. When you replaced the coil it prob reset the comp. If you let it run a bit you will prob end up with the P305 code agian. It takes the comp a bit of time to figure the misfire out. Check the valve spring I work for a chevy dealer and Ive seen alot of these.
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I agree that the spring is suspect, but that's what a bunch of folks and tuner shops told me too. If the cat is plugged on one side (not uncommon for cars that have spent time in the garage and not driven until hot) the additional backpressure screws up the whole deal and the P300 sets. It is indicating multiple misfires NOT random. I watched my car misfire on the computer and it was pretty consistent on 3 or 4 cylinders. I think it was 3 on the drivers side and one sympathy misfire on the passenger.

Checking the pressure is way easier than pulling the cover.

Oh by the way, Chevy will probably tell you that they can't get a new pipe. It's $1200.00 and they don't keep many. There were only 2 in the country when mine went bad. It was a pain.
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Chevrolet calls P300 random misfire. Regardless take your car to a shop you trust and have them run a back pressure test. It's rare for a P300 to be a bad cat but not impossible.
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Chevrolet calls P300 random misfire. Regardless take your car to a shop you trust and have them run a back pressure test. It's rare for a P300 to be a bad cat but not impossible.
OK I'll give...in any case you have misfiring in enough cylinders and at such an interval that it will not record the individual cylinders misfiring. I have a long drawn out explanation from the GM tech manual, but I am too lazy to copy it.

If you were getting a consistent P305, I wouldn't even bring up the cats, but I went on quite a goose chase to run down my problem. It started out not too bad, just the code and once it popped up the individual cylinder. Then it got worse, and started running bad. After that it all went down hill. It got to the point where I thought I would have to tow it to the dealer.

Everything in the car was perfect, except the cat. After we solved it folks came out of the woodwork telling me that it was not the first time they had seen it.

It happens when a car is only driven for short distances and the cats never get to full operating temp. The crud that the catalyst removes from the exhaust never burns off and ends up clogging the cat.

Anyway, I really hope it turns out be something simpler and cheaper than then mid-pipe. Maybe someone near you has one that you could put your hands on for cheap.

Good luck, keep us posted.
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I posted up a thread on this. After searching all the chassis grounds, 02 sensors, MAF, fuel injector harness, every electrical connection, valves & springs.....it ended up being a blown header gasket. Ran OK, but not strong. Strong fuel odor from driver side, very high IAT's.
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I'm hoping to get sometime this weekend to look at in more detail. I'll keep you posted.
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Yeah check above each of the primaries for carbon deposits on the heads.....
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