Some noob questions!
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Some noob questions!
Hey yall well im hopefully selling the stang and gonna be getting into a vette... well i have some questions for yall, i searched and found some but not all. Any help would be great... here they are (probably gonne be getting a 98,99,2000 if it matters)
1. Do all coupes have the "targa top"?
2. Where does the targa top go when its off?
3. From the factory is the targe top see through like t-tops or is it painted to match your car?
4. Is it true that corvette insurance is usually cheaper than mustangs/trans ams/ camaros etc?
5. Is 100k miles high for the ls1?
6. Also what are some good/affordable performance mods (non s/c nitrous) the car im looking at already has magnaflow o/r mid pipe, catback, k&n intake, bbk throttle body, short shifter, what else usually goes good with those besides headers, im thinking tune and maybe ls6 intake???
7. Are the performance parts for the c5 engine (head/cam/intake/tuners etc) the same parts for the ls1 trans am/camaros?
8. And for wheel fitment are the c5 and trans am/camaros all the same?
Thanks answering any or all of the questions will help
BTW here is the link of the car i wanna buy... http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/cto/1772704155.html
1. Do all coupes have the "targa top"?
2. Where does the targa top go when its off?
3. From the factory is the targe top see through like t-tops or is it painted to match your car?
4. Is it true that corvette insurance is usually cheaper than mustangs/trans ams/ camaros etc?
5. Is 100k miles high for the ls1?
6. Also what are some good/affordable performance mods (non s/c nitrous) the car im looking at already has magnaflow o/r mid pipe, catback, k&n intake, bbk throttle body, short shifter, what else usually goes good with those besides headers, im thinking tune and maybe ls6 intake???
7. Are the performance parts for the c5 engine (head/cam/intake/tuners etc) the same parts for the ls1 trans am/camaros?
8. And for wheel fitment are the c5 and trans am/camaros all the same?
Thanks answering any or all of the questions will help
BTW here is the link of the car i wanna buy... http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/cto/1772704155.html
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Yes, all coupes have the targa (that of course excludes the fixed roof coupe or FRC/Z06).
The targa is stored in the rear hatch area. There are two retractable pins that attach to the top as well as two stationary holders that attach to the floor of the hatch area in which the targa rests.
The stock top is a body color painted top - the see through top is an option. Some cars came with both tops as an option as well.
From what I have found, the insurance on a C5 is very reasonable and in most cases much cheaper than that for a Camaro/Firebird/Mustang. Of course, only your insurance agent can tell you for sure what insurance would be for you.
Many forum members have many more miles than 100K on their cars and report that they have had few problems. As with any car, how the vehicle was maintained will be a big factor in how reliable it is.
A set of long tube headers will really wake up the car, as will a heads/cam job. New rear gears can help a lot, depending on what gears the car already has. The automatic can have either 2.73 or 3.15 gears from the factory while the six speed has the 3.42s.
Doubt you can fit an LS7 intake on the car, but an LS6 will work.
Good luck with your purchase. I have some Word files, including a Corvette Buyers Checklist, that might help you out. If you'd like a copy, PM me your e-mail address.
The targa is stored in the rear hatch area. There are two retractable pins that attach to the top as well as two stationary holders that attach to the floor of the hatch area in which the targa rests.
The stock top is a body color painted top - the see through top is an option. Some cars came with both tops as an option as well.
From what I have found, the insurance on a C5 is very reasonable and in most cases much cheaper than that for a Camaro/Firebird/Mustang. Of course, only your insurance agent can tell you for sure what insurance would be for you.
Many forum members have many more miles than 100K on their cars and report that they have had few problems. As with any car, how the vehicle was maintained will be a big factor in how reliable it is.
A set of long tube headers will really wake up the car, as will a heads/cam job. New rear gears can help a lot, depending on what gears the car already has. The automatic can have either 2.73 or 3.15 gears from the factory while the six speed has the 3.42s.
Doubt you can fit an LS7 intake on the car, but an LS6 will work.
Good luck with your purchase. I have some Word files, including a Corvette Buyers Checklist, that might help you out. If you'd like a copy, PM me your e-mail address.
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1. No, there is the Fixed Roof Coupe (FRC) which in '01 became the Z06. Neither of those models have a removable roof panel.
2. In the hatch back area. There are mounts to secure it.
3. It is an option, they come with a solid painted roof panel and the transparent roof panel is optional. Normally the vehicle will have both tops when sold.
4. I believe insurance rates are based more on the driver specifics and their credit rating, than the vehicle.
5. Some say it is, some say it is not. Here's the issue once you get to a certain point in time/mileage, then it becomes a gamble as to what will require servicing. Typically, these engines should easily see 150,000 miles of service if taken care of and had proper routine maintenance.
6. I'm not an expert on mods, with exception of the Z06 C6 shifter, that I have and it is significantly better then the stock C5 shifter. I don't think many of them actually produce more horsepower, an aftermarket exhaust sounds a lot nicer then the stock exhaust.
At '01, all LS1 have a LS6 (Z06 engine) intake manifold.
Good luck on your purchase.
LOL Dang Jack we had almost identical answers and must have been writing at the same time.
2. In the hatch back area. There are mounts to secure it.
3. It is an option, they come with a solid painted roof panel and the transparent roof panel is optional. Normally the vehicle will have both tops when sold.
4. I believe insurance rates are based more on the driver specifics and their credit rating, than the vehicle.
5. Some say it is, some say it is not. Here's the issue once you get to a certain point in time/mileage, then it becomes a gamble as to what will require servicing. Typically, these engines should easily see 150,000 miles of service if taken care of and had proper routine maintenance.
6. I'm not an expert on mods, with exception of the Z06 C6 shifter, that I have and it is significantly better then the stock C5 shifter. I don't think many of them actually produce more horsepower, an aftermarket exhaust sounds a lot nicer then the stock exhaust.
At '01, all LS1 have a LS6 (Z06 engine) intake manifold.
Good luck on your purchase.
LOL Dang Jack we had almost identical answers and must have been writing at the same time.
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This will help some:
1997
* Completely new, redesigned Corvette. Base (FE1) and Z51 (FE3) suspension packages.
* All Z51 cars include: Power Steering Cooler
* 97-00 C5 LS1's produce 345 HP @ 5600 RPM and 350 Ft Lbs of torque @ 4400 RPM.
1998
* Convertible becomes available
* Active Handling becomes available late in year
* The two slots of a 1998 (and possibly late 1997s) curve toward the rear at the bottom. (versus straight down)
1999
* 26# injectors substituted for 28#
* Fuel pump revised to reduce noise
* FRC "Fixed Roof Coupe" aka the hardtop, becomes available. All FRC's are MN6 (6-speed) cars with the Z51 suspension package, and are about 60lbs lighter than coupes.
* HUD introduced
* Only one line in driver's side fuel rail cover (no fuel return line?)
* Power telescoping wheel becomes an option
* Steering hardware changed to combat wandering
* Door sill trim plates added
2000
* Millennium Yellow available
* "Thin Spoke" versus "wagon wheel" design wheels become standard.
* Pup cats added to all models for LEV emissions requirements (5hp loss relative to 97-99)
* Steel swaybar endlinks instead of plastic on Z51 equipped cars
* Z51 swaybar diameters grow (25.4/21.7 to 28.6/21.7 to 28.6/23.6 (note: new rear same as Z06)
* No keyhole on passenger side doorhandle
* Passenger airbag 'off' switch added to console (light by TC/AH button)
2001
* Return to 28# injectors for all models.
* Second Generation Active Handling
* Nassau Blue discontinued
* Alternator 'clutch' pulley added on A4 cars
* New soundproofing + foam in all cars
* Smaller keyfob
* Electrochromic dimming rearview and driver's mirrors
* Lighter AGM battery
* Thickness + Material in Convertible change
* Chrome exhaust tips for coupe + Convertible
* 85MM MAF with integral temp sensor (versus 74mm with separate plug for IAT)
* LS1 cam profile changed to: .500/0.500, 198/208 on 115.5LSA (From: 0.472/0.479, 202/210 on 117)
* All Corvettes now have the LS6 intake manifold
* All Corvettes now have the LS6 engine block (windage passages in block), which includes a beefier oil pump.
* LS1 changes result in new output of 350 HP @ 5200 RPM and 375 Ft Lbs of torque @ 4400 RPM (MN6)
* Hardtop/FRC discontinued
* Stronger synchros in all transmissions
* Exhaust manifolds revised (5hp regained) - thin wall cast replacing SS manifolds
* Metal valvestem caps (late year)
* Torque Tube changed from metal-matrix composite to aluminum alloy 6061, increased in diameter from 55 to 63 mm.
* Driveshaft couplings have also been upgraded on manual-equipped models for additional strength and durability
* Introduction of the Z06, which has as differences:
* Hardtop body style
* Rear brake ducting
* Screened inlets on front fascia, without foglights
* F1 Supercar tires 265-17 front, 295-18 rear, on 17x9.5 and 18x10.5 (one inch wider, respectively
* New LS6 top-end with new style head design (10.5:1 compression, 64cc chamber), LS6 cam (0.525/0.525, 204/211 on 116) - 385hp
* M12 transmission with shorter gearing (1-2-3 analagous to MN6 with 3.90 rear diff
* Titanium exhaust system
* Lightweight windshield
* New, stronger clutch with redesigned master + slave cylinder
* Stronger rear differential (shotpeened ring gear)
* Red brake calipers (otherwise identical)
* Transmission overtemp warning light on DIC
* 6500 redline gauges with special checkering + Z06 font
* Redesigned PCV system to help combat oil burning
* Red LS6 Fuel Rail Covers (FRC's)
* FE4 Z06 suspension - uprated springs, bars (30mm/23.6mm), shocks (note front spring and rear bar same as Z51)
2002
* Z06 Changes:
* Z06 LS6 cam changed to: 0.551/0.547, 204/218 on 117.5
* Less restrictive intake airbox lid
* Descreened MAF
* Removal of pup-cats (total with changes = 405hp)
* Z06 shocks revised with less rebound for better launching
* Z06 brake pads revised for better stopping (generate more dust)
* Lighter, sodium filled valves w/ stronger valve springs
* Higher tension rings installed to prevent oil burning problems
* Slight piston redesign *
* Clutch strength upgraded.
* HUD available on Z06 (not avail '01 model year)
* Wheel supplier changed to Speedline, moved from forged to cast. Weight nearly identical
* Electron Blue color offered
* Steel endlinks changed to aluminum
2003
* Late model-year new fuel system design from C6's
2004
* Z06 shocks further refined. Accompanying upper front control arm bushing, and rear swaybar bushing changes.
1997
* Completely new, redesigned Corvette. Base (FE1) and Z51 (FE3) suspension packages.
* All Z51 cars include: Power Steering Cooler
* 97-00 C5 LS1's produce 345 HP @ 5600 RPM and 350 Ft Lbs of torque @ 4400 RPM.
1998
* Convertible becomes available
* Active Handling becomes available late in year
* The two slots of a 1998 (and possibly late 1997s) curve toward the rear at the bottom. (versus straight down)
1999
* 26# injectors substituted for 28#
* Fuel pump revised to reduce noise
* FRC "Fixed Roof Coupe" aka the hardtop, becomes available. All FRC's are MN6 (6-speed) cars with the Z51 suspension package, and are about 60lbs lighter than coupes.
* HUD introduced
* Only one line in driver's side fuel rail cover (no fuel return line?)
* Power telescoping wheel becomes an option
* Steering hardware changed to combat wandering
* Door sill trim plates added
2000
* Millennium Yellow available
* "Thin Spoke" versus "wagon wheel" design wheels become standard.
* Pup cats added to all models for LEV emissions requirements (5hp loss relative to 97-99)
* Steel swaybar endlinks instead of plastic on Z51 equipped cars
* Z51 swaybar diameters grow (25.4/21.7 to 28.6/21.7 to 28.6/23.6 (note: new rear same as Z06)
* No keyhole on passenger side doorhandle
* Passenger airbag 'off' switch added to console (light by TC/AH button)
2001
* Return to 28# injectors for all models.
* Second Generation Active Handling
* Nassau Blue discontinued
* Alternator 'clutch' pulley added on A4 cars
* New soundproofing + foam in all cars
* Smaller keyfob
* Electrochromic dimming rearview and driver's mirrors
* Lighter AGM battery
* Thickness + Material in Convertible change
* Chrome exhaust tips for coupe + Convertible
* 85MM MAF with integral temp sensor (versus 74mm with separate plug for IAT)
* LS1 cam profile changed to: .500/0.500, 198/208 on 115.5LSA (From: 0.472/0.479, 202/210 on 117)
* All Corvettes now have the LS6 intake manifold
* All Corvettes now have the LS6 engine block (windage passages in block), which includes a beefier oil pump.
* LS1 changes result in new output of 350 HP @ 5200 RPM and 375 Ft Lbs of torque @ 4400 RPM (MN6)
* Hardtop/FRC discontinued
* Stronger synchros in all transmissions
* Exhaust manifolds revised (5hp regained) - thin wall cast replacing SS manifolds
* Metal valvestem caps (late year)
* Torque Tube changed from metal-matrix composite to aluminum alloy 6061, increased in diameter from 55 to 63 mm.
* Driveshaft couplings have also been upgraded on manual-equipped models for additional strength and durability
* Introduction of the Z06, which has as differences:
* Hardtop body style
* Rear brake ducting
* Screened inlets on front fascia, without foglights
* F1 Supercar tires 265-17 front, 295-18 rear, on 17x9.5 and 18x10.5 (one inch wider, respectively
* New LS6 top-end with new style head design (10.5:1 compression, 64cc chamber), LS6 cam (0.525/0.525, 204/211 on 116) - 385hp
* M12 transmission with shorter gearing (1-2-3 analagous to MN6 with 3.90 rear diff
* Titanium exhaust system
* Lightweight windshield
* New, stronger clutch with redesigned master + slave cylinder
* Stronger rear differential (shotpeened ring gear)
* Red brake calipers (otherwise identical)
* Transmission overtemp warning light on DIC
* 6500 redline gauges with special checkering + Z06 font
* Redesigned PCV system to help combat oil burning
* Red LS6 Fuel Rail Covers (FRC's)
* FE4 Z06 suspension - uprated springs, bars (30mm/23.6mm), shocks (note front spring and rear bar same as Z51)
2002
* Z06 Changes:
* Z06 LS6 cam changed to: 0.551/0.547, 204/218 on 117.5
* Less restrictive intake airbox lid
* Descreened MAF
* Removal of pup-cats (total with changes = 405hp)
* Z06 shocks revised with less rebound for better launching
* Z06 brake pads revised for better stopping (generate more dust)
* Lighter, sodium filled valves w/ stronger valve springs
* Higher tension rings installed to prevent oil burning problems
* Slight piston redesign *
* Clutch strength upgraded.
* HUD available on Z06 (not avail '01 model year)
* Wheel supplier changed to Speedline, moved from forged to cast. Weight nearly identical
* Electron Blue color offered
* Steel endlinks changed to aluminum
2003
* Late model-year new fuel system design from C6's
2004
* Z06 shocks further refined. Accompanying upper front control arm bushing, and rear swaybar bushing changes.
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7. Heads/cam the same. Intake is different, no fitting for the MAP sensor on the F body. Tuners are also different. F bodies have a cable throttle.
8. Offsets are different.
8. Offsets are different.
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