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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 11:48 AM
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I've searched and really can't find the answer I need. I bought a used 02 Z06, 51,000 miles, one owner, from a used car dealer in MO. Everything feels great, looks great. I've changed trans fluid and axle fluid to Royal Purple fluids, old fluid looked really good. I've done a few clutch fluid changes to Dot 4 fluid, the old fluid didn't look too bad, it was black and had stuff stuck to the sides, but not too bad for 51,000 miles.

Now to my question, if I'm cruising at road speed, downshift to 3rd and go WOT, when I go to 4th the clutch feels soft and slippy. But, if I launch out in 1st at WOT, roll through the gears, when I hit 4th it feels solid. Back to back WOT runs, clutch feels solid. Feels like it needs some heat before it grabs solid. So, is it normal? Hydraulics or clutch?
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Originally Posted by Swayse
I've searched and really can't find the answer I need. I bought a used 02 Z06, 51,000 miles, one owner, from a used car dealer in MO....I've done a few clutch fluid changes to Dot 4 fluid, the old fluid didn't look too bad, it was black and had stuff stuck to the sides, but not too bad for 51,000 miles....
That clutch fluid was seriously degraded. Suggest you swap the content of the reservoir each time you drive the car until you put two more cans (12 oz each) of DOT4 through it. That ought to help cleanse accumulated crud out of the hydraulics to help the seals operate correctly. I'd give that a try before drawing further conclusions.

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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 04:11 PM
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Reading and searching is the main reason I started changing clutch fluid, thanks Ranger! I've got one 12 once can through it so far. The fluid doesn't turn dark unless I beat on the car, which is pretty rare. Peddle has never gotten stuck, or failed to disengage clutch. Car runs perfect and is bone stock. Just trying to get an idea about future car expenses, whether the clutch is on it's way out, or is just fine. I'll keep doing what I'm doing, driving and enjoying the crap out of this car.
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 04:35 PM
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Swayze,

I'd stick with my recommendation in post #2. Two more cans of fluid ($5.00 investment). 50K miles will embed clutch dust in every eddy within the hydraulics. The goal is to dislodge all of it via the cleansing power of fresh fluid coursing by to bring crud into suspension and then into the reservoir.

At stock power levels, the LS6 clutch should not change feel once the fluid is really clean and fresh.

Good luck.

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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 04:34 PM
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I changed the heck out of the fluid, no help, getting worse. Bought a new master clutch cylinder from Gene, latest part number, fixed. Even shifts better now, I guess clutch wasn't releasing all the way, should have changed it sooner.
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Originally Posted by Swayse
I changed the heck out of the fluid, no help, getting worse. Bought a new master clutch cylinder from Gene, latest part number, fixed. Even shifts better now, I guess clutch wasn't releasing all the way, should have changed it sooner.
Be very happy if that's the end of it. GL.
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I'm sure it'll always be something. But hopefully it won't be to bad since I'm keeping this thing stock. I learned my lesson on my 97 Dodge Cummins diesel, ran 11.86 at 114.1, fun but so much work.
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Originally Posted by Swayse
I'm sure it'll always be something. But hopefully it won't be to bad since I'm keeping this thing stock.
You'll just need to remember to keep your clutch fluid clean, now with the new master cylinder. Doing so will prevent the destruction of seal integrity brought on previously in your clutch hydraulics by accumulation of clutch dust in the fluid.

This simple maintenance task should be a routine preventative step for owners of all Corvette with manual trannies.

I'm now on my 3d Z06 with 100K street miles and 773 burnouts and passes down the 1320' with zero clutch pedal issues.

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Ranger, you're my hero!! I plan on changing clutch fluid often, I'm guessing I should change out the stock fluid and put DOT 4 in there today.
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Originally Posted by Swayse
...I plan on changing clutch fluid often, I'm guessing I should change out the stock fluid and put DOT 4 in there today.
GM changed to DOT4 for all Corvettes with a hydraulic clutch back in late-summer 2007.

You can make the switch gradually by simply using DOT4 every time you swap the content of the reservoir. C5 reservoir holds 2 ounces. The entire hydraulic including reservoir, master and actuator (slave) holds less than 6 ounces. So every swap will increase the percentage of DOT4 in the system.

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