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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 04:49 PM
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Hello Everyone! I was on ebay and came across a universal keyless touch button system. So I spent a little time with my friend Google to see what I could come up with about these systems. Well I ended up finding a site that carries all kinds of these things, they even have some kind of a finger print start systems. I emailed the company for more info and am waiting to hear back from them, i will keep you guys posted on what I hear. They have some videos of some of there engine start buttons installed on a 350z, I am wondering how hard this would be to do on my vette, I would love to get rid of my keys and just get in and hit a button to start it.So my question is has anyone ever used a system like this or even heard of it? Also what do you guys think? or

Here is a link to the website that I found these at....

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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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They don't use the car fob and instead use that large remote control 3" X 2" X 1/4".
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 05:13 PM
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I'd be curious to hear the results of your research.
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Do a Search.....I may be wrong but I thought there was a previous post with a long discussion on this topic.....maybe 3 or 4 months ago.....
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Been beat to death several time. There are several issues from bypassing the vats system to needing 2 fobs as well as hacking into an already touch starting system. Not worth the possible downside in my opinion.

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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 10:29 PM
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Hey guys, just got a reply back form someone at auto-Innovatio and It sound simple enough to me, I don't see why it would not work on our cars. The ST800 system that they have seems like it would give us everything the C6 has and then some.

This is what they sent me....



Hello,

First off, allow me to thank you for your interest in our smart systems.
Let me Explain a little about both system, first off both systems are rather simple to install. Both systems will work on a diesel or gas engine, both systems will work on automatic and manual transmissions.These systems are also set up to work with fully modified cars or race cars with after market features such as turbos. You can even program the ST800 to have a delayed shut down for your turbos. After you get to your destination and shut the car off the car will idle for a designated amount of time before going into shut down mode, allowing your turbos a sufficient enough amount of time at idle before shutting down the system.

DW-Tech touch start system
I think the easiest way to explain how the DW-Tech touch button start system works is to think of it as a remote start system. Only instead of engaging the system from a key fob at a distance you will initiate the start procedure from the touch of a button located in your vehicle. It is a true touch button, not a push button. The DW-Tech touch button system ties into your factory keyless entry, vehicle immobilizer unit and factory alarm system. When you lock your vehicle it deactivates the touch button system, then when you unlock your vehicle and open the drivers door it activates the touch start system. So you can then get in your car touch the button and go. If some one was to break into your vehicle the touch button system would completely deactivate so there is no chance of working the button. If by some chance you forget to lock you vehicle when you leave the touch button system will automatically deactivate after 60 seconds until you come back and hit unlock on your factory key fob.

ST800 Smart System
The ST800 smart system is a lot more advanced than the DW-Tech touch start system.
The ST800 is a proximity sensing smart key system, this system includes:100% keyless proximity sensing car security system, remote start and push button engine start all rolled together. It also includes with it the digital key entry system which I will explain later. I can explain the ST800 in one word... UNBELIEVABLE... You will never need keys again or will you ever have to look for your key fob to disarm you alarm system. This is a proximity sensing system as I mentioned earlier, as long as you hold the smart key on you, you will be the only one able to access the vehicle. As soon as you get into proximity the doors will unlock the security system will disengage and the push button start system will become operational.Once you leave proximity of the vehicle the alarm will engage , all doors will lock and push button start will become inactive. The credit card remote is actually smaller than a credit card and is even small enough to store in your wallet or 5th pocket and forget that it is even there.

Digital Key Entry System
The Digital key entry system is a nice added feature that comes along with the ST800 smart system. The digital key is basically a keypad that can be mounted in your front windshield behind the glass. It picks up your touch through the glass and is dead on accurate. This system will allow you to access your vehicle and disengage your alarm system via the key pad, it will also allow you to pop your trunk and start and stop the vehicle all by simply typing in your own personal pass code.


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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 11:54 PM
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The smart system is impressive!
I wonder what the install is like, or who could do it.
Surprised someone hasn't tried this already.
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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 02:54 AM
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Wow you just found my new christmas present lol

But who could install this!! lol

I think one of the electrical Engineers on this forum should give it a try or do mine at least hahaha
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Originally Posted by powerjunky
Wow you just found my new christmas present lol

But who could install this!! lol

I think one of the electrical Engineers on this forum should give it a try or do mine at least hahaha
You might want to read the instuction manual, you still have to bypass the ignition (that's up to you by the way according to the instructions). Did you see where this outfit is from (read the last page of the instructions)?

Good luck
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Originally Posted by 2012corvette
Hey guys, just got a reply back form someone at auto-Innovatio and It sound simple enough to me, I don't see why it would not work on our cars. The ST800 system that they have seems like it would give us everything the C6 has and then some.

This is what they sent me....



Hello,

First off, allow me to thank you for your interest in our smart systems.
Let me Explain a little about both system, first off both systems are rather simple to install. Both systems will work on a diesel or gas engine, both systems will work on automatic and manual transmissions.These systems are also set up to work with fully modified cars or race cars with after market features such as turbos. You can even program the ST800 to have a delayed shut down for your turbos. After you get to your destination and shut the car off the car will idle for a designated amount of time before going into shut down mode, allowing your turbos a sufficient enough amount of time at idle before shutting down the system.

DW-Tech touch start system
I think the easiest way to explain how the DW-Tech touch button start system works is to think of it as a remote start system. Only instead of engaging the system from a key fob at a distance you will initiate the start procedure from the touch of a button located in your vehicle. It is a true touch button, not a push button. The DW-Tech touch button system ties into your factory keyless entry, vehicle immobilizer unit and factory alarm system. When you lock your vehicle it deactivates the touch button system, then when you unlock your vehicle and open the drivers door it activates the touch start system. So you can then get in your car touch the button and go. If some one was to break into your vehicle the touch button system would completely deactivate so there is no chance of working the button. If by some chance you forget to lock you vehicle when you leave the touch button system will automatically deactivate after 60 seconds until you come back and hit unlock on your factory key fob.

ST800 Smart System
The ST800 smart system is a lot more advanced than the DW-Tech touch start system.
The ST800 is a proximity sensing smart key system, this system includes:100% keyless proximity sensing car security system, remote start and push button engine start all rolled together. It also includes with it the digital key entry system which I will explain later. I can explain the ST800 in one word... UNBELIEVABLE... You will never need keys again or will you ever have to look for your key fob to disarm you alarm system. This is a proximity sensing system as I mentioned earlier, as long as you hold the smart key on you, you will be the only one able to access the vehicle. As soon as you get into proximity the doors will unlock the security system will disengage and the push button start system will become operational.Once you leave proximity of the vehicle the alarm will engage , all doors will lock and push button start will become inactive. The credit card remote is actually smaller than a credit card and is even small enough to store in your wallet or 5th pocket and forget that it is even there.

Digital Key Entry System
The Digital key entry system is a nice added feature that comes along with the ST800 smart system. The digital key is basically a keypad that can be mounted in your front windshield behind the glass. It picks up your touch through the glass and is dead on accurate. This system will allow you to access your vehicle and disengage your alarm system via the key pad, it will also allow you to pop your trunk and start and stop the vehicle all by simply typing in your own personal pass code.


Sean Kirkland
Vice President
Auto-Innovatio.com
This is interesting - I do know that the VATS system can be shut off or bypassed with the HP Tuners (if memory serves me correctly) or at least with the Tech II

That would definetely help the system!

Very interesting non the less

Thanks,Matt
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Interesting mod. If you decide to do this install, please be sure to fully document the procedure.
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Originally Posted by dougbfresh
You might want to read the instuction manual, you still have to bypass the ignition (that's up to you by the way according to the instructions). Did you see where this outfit is from (read the last page of the instructions)?

Good luck
I already did. Its not as complicated as you think. I have a viper alarm system in my Cadillac Cts


I think if everyone one the forum could gather the schematics and we work together, it should be even easier!
I mean what are forums for

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Originally Posted by powerjunky
I already did. Its not as complicated as you think. I have a viper alarm system in my Cadillac Cts


I think if everyone one the forum could gather the schematics and we work together, it should be even easier!
I mean what are forums for
Pop for the shop manual and have a blast. Should be entertaining. Your brave if your going to buy a generic push button start from the Jungles of Asia, from some rinky-dink little company (the English in the instructions is WILD).
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Originally Posted by dougbfresh
Pop for the shop manual and have a blast. Should be entertaining. Your brave if your going to buy a generic push button start from the Jungles of Asia, from some rinky-dink little company (the English in the instructions is WILD).
Oh I never said I was gonna do it

But I really do think we could make this "rinky-dink" thing work!


I like that word

Click on the instructions for the Cadillac CTS hahah talk about Asia lol
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Originally Posted by Vetteman Jack
Interesting mod. If you decide to do this install, please be sure to fully document the procedure.
How about 20 of us get together, kick in $20 a piece, and buy the unit for whoever is the best electrical mod documenter on the Forum?
Would be worth knowing if it works and can be installed by civilians.
I've sure spent more $ for less return!!
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Originally Posted by Cardinal Flyer
How about 20 of us get together, kick in $20 a piece, and buy the unit for whoever is the best electrical mod documenter on the Forum?
Would be worth knowing if it works and can be installed by civilians.
I've sure spent more $ for less return!!
Better yet, who wants to hack up their car?
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Originally Posted by Cardinal Flyer
How about 20 of us get together, kick in $20 a piece, and buy the unit for whoever is the best electrical mod documenter on the Forum?
Would be worth knowing if it works and can be installed by civilians.
I've sure spent more $ for less return!!

This is a very good idea, get someone who doesnt fear/doubt this at all(like dougbfresh ). I think for a very detailed write up, to me it would be worth $20. Love the idea! Lets get it started lol.

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Better yet, who wants to hack up their car?


Doug your like my father arnt you? The second you add something to your car your just F***ing it up lol? All that aftermarket blah blah blah lol


I have a thousand dollar viper system in my caddy, Are you saying my car is hacked up? Cause it works perfectly fine

If we have a video of it INSTALLED AND WORKING on a 350z why so much doubt? How is it hacking it up? Vats would be easy to get by, thats why they make a bypass box

This is NO different than someone going to Best Buy and saying hey I want a Viper alarm in my Corvette, lol they can do it. So why is this any different? The company gives us schematics to their wiring, now all we need is someone who knows the ins and outs of ours lol



Quit being a negative Nancy
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I'm just not a fan of it automatically unlocking and locking the doors based on proximity. I walk up to my car and walk away a lot without ever getting in my car. I got to car shows and car meet-ups a lot and often walk by or up to my car. I wouldn't want to kill the actuators for the locks really fast by making them lock and unlock without need. In addition, I don't like the idea of my car being unlocked unless I'm in it.

If that was just an option and can be turned off, I'd say this would be pretty cool. That keypad would NEVER go on my windshield. LOL, so basically, it's just the "touch" button that seems cool. Personally, I'm not really even a fan of push-button start-up, but if I see how fast it is, and it working well on a C5 (with the easy entry system still intact - which I doubt is possible), I'd be willing to give it a try. But the way I see it, a lot of the cool memory functions of your car will no longer work based on the remote and the easy entry system would be useless.
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Originally Posted by powerjunky
This is a very good idea, get someone who doesnt fear/doubt this at all(like dougbfresh ). I think for a very detailed write up, to me it would be worth $20. Love the idea! Lets get it started lol.





Doug your like my father arnt you? The second you add something to your car your just F***ing it up lol? All that aftermarket blah blah blah lol


I have a thousand dollar viper system in my caddy, Are you saying my car is hacked up? Cause it works perfectly fine

If we have a video of it INSTALLED AND WORKING on a 350z why so much doubt? How is it hacking it up? Vats would be easy to get by, thats why they make a bypass box

This is NO different than someone going to Best Buy and saying hey I want a Viper alarm in my Corvette, lol they can do it. So why is this any different? The company gives us schematics to their wiring, now all we need is someone who knows the ins and outs of ours lol



Quit being a negative Nancy
Your so brave-give a go big man. A Viper system is not this piece of junk, even the instructions are a cross between Spanglish and Vietnamese. WOnder what warantee service might even be like. Try to even map where the HQ of this funky outfit is.

Bring your car over, I'll be more than happy to hack your car up for you.
The problem with JUNK like this is even if you do get it to work, when something happens, bebugging problems down the road for you or the next owner is a giant pain in the A$$, but go for it big talker.

Wonder if they even have any US dealers/installers.

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Push-...item2a0a4a53df

Looks good. I added remote start on my car, doubt this would be any harder to install.
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