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Old Apr 8, 2002 | 02:25 AM
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So what are they?

1St 42?
2nd 93?
3rd 103?
4th 120?
5th 140?
6th 3124?

Who knows.. Thanks.. to whomsoever knows the actuals.. :cheers: :cheers:
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Old Apr 8, 2002 | 02:41 AM
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MPH@6500 RPM w/ 295/35 18 tires and 3.42 rear:
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<li>50 mph 1st Gear
<li>71 mph 2nd Gear
<li>103 mph 3rd Gear
<li>148 mph 4th Gear
<li>176 mph 5th Gear
<li>264 mph 6th Gear
</ul>

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Old Apr 9, 2002 | 06:39 PM
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Er... perhaps you should add "theoretical" in there, Adam. Little things like wind resistance and such not withstanding. :D
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Old Apr 10, 2002 | 09:56 AM
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Default Re: Top Speeds per gear? (Afy)

Here's what I've seen racing...they are estimates because in SCCA Class T1, we can run 17" rear wheels...and I'm normally looking at the tach to shift, but the speeds are pretty close.

2d - 70 (never maxed out 2d...shift at 6200).
3d - 105
4th - 145-150
5th - I've seen 160, but it should go to 175
6th - slower than that (it's too high for top end running)

I'll give you an update on 5th gear after I get back from Daytona's SCCA National. I'm guessing I'll see somewhere around 165 or so. I saw 160 consistently at Charlotte, and Daytona is faster.

I sell the videos of these tracks and races for $10 each if any is interested in seeing these speeds in anger! :D
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Old Apr 10, 2002 | 01:22 PM
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Er... perhaps you should add "theoretical" in there, Adam. Little things like wind resistance and such not withstanding. :D
Actually those numbers are not theoretical. If you are pulling 6500 RPM in 6th gear, that is the MPH you will be traveling at. Now can you pull 6500 RPM in 6th gear? Hell no, you would need thousands of HP and tons of aerodynamic/suspension/tire enhancements.

Oh, I guess I should add that If you're spinning your tires you might not be traveling at the MPH your speedo says, but I figured that went without saying ;)
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Old Apr 10, 2002 | 01:33 PM
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Hell no, you would need thousands of HP and tons of aerodynamic/suspension/tire enhancements.
Thousands? A C4 did 255 MPH with about 800hp. :yesnod:
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Old Apr 10, 2002 | 01:52 PM
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Hell no, you would need thousands of HP and tons of aerodynamic/suspension/tire enhancements.

Thousands? A C4 did 255 MPH with about 800hp. :yesnod:
Good point ;)
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Old Apr 10, 2002 | 02:30 PM
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Default Re: Top Speeds per gear? (Afy)

Top Speed for the ZO6 with all the limiters deleted would be roughly 185 mph.

Check out these great links for the calculations!

http://home.earthlink.net/~jonaa/topspeed.html
http://home.earthlink.net/~jonaa/LS1new.xls
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Old Apr 10, 2002 | 03:59 PM
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there are no limiters.
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Old Apr 10, 2002 | 04:07 PM
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MPH@6500 RPM w/ 295/35 18 tires and 3.42 rear:
<snip>
-Adam
Adam, we almost exactly agree :)
here are my (slightly more accurate :) ) numbers

at 6500, red line
<ul>
<li>48.55 mph 1st Gear
<li>69.65 mph 2nd Gear
<li>100.83 mph 3rd Gear
<li>144.18 mph 4th Gear
<li>171.65 mph 5th Gear
</ul>


at 6600, rev limit
<ul>
<li>49.29 mph 1st Gear
<li>70.73 mph 2nd Gear
<li>102.38 mph 3rd Gear
<li>146.40 mph 4th Gear
<li>174.29 mph 5th Gear
</ul>

these, of course, are for a car on new tires, at factory pressure :)
also, with a recent car wash, but no Zaino!


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Old Apr 10, 2002 | 04:53 PM
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these, of course, are for a car on new tires, at factory pressure :)
also, with a recent car wash, but no Zaino!

Ah, but my car does have Zaino, thus the discrepancy. I'll look at my formula later tonight and see if an error occured.

-adam
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Old Apr 10, 2002 | 06:28 PM
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Default Re: Top Speeds per gear? (Adam Bruce)

5th at 6600 was an indicated 177 in my car. I've been there 3 times. The speedo was checked at 100 mph against a gps and they both indicated 100 mph. My car will not do over 70 in 2nd or 100 in 3rd at the rev limiter at least as shown on the speedo. I suppose there could be some speedo delay and it could be actually traveling a bit faster than indicated. :chevy
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Old Apr 10, 2002 | 07:41 PM
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there are no limiters.
Duh... Still in BMW think here. They feel it necessary to protect their customers from their amazing top end performance and super-powers :lol: by limiting top speed with the ECU :yesnod: It's a control thing I think. :cheers:
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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 11:06 PM
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What happened to my post to No Cure about top speed? Did the Powers that be delete it?

My questions were if No Cure could calculate the top speed of my Z with:

1. SAE 502rwhp/491rwtrq (through mufflers and cats on 91 octane)?

2. SAE 485rwhp/485rwtrq (cammed down for great idle and smog)?

I have stock tires and stock 3.42 gears.

Even though I probably will never hit this, I am very curious. On the fastest road courses I have been on so far (Willow Springs), the fastest cars are hitting about 160mph at the end of the front straight. I have not had the new motor on the track yet.

Thanks in advance!
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Old Apr 12, 2002 | 02:25 AM
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my first response was to say "hmmm, that's odd, must be a glitch in the ubb software or sumtin", except, we're both space cowboys :)

see http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=276785


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Old Apr 12, 2002 | 12:08 PM
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Mako,
You have to know more than just the peak HP/Trq number in order to compute the top speed. You have to have the actual dyno graph to see the power@RPM. The reason being that let's say you have a 450 RWHP@6000 RPM car. However, you're geared with stock gears so you redline in 5th gear at 171 mph. Now you shift to 6th gear, but the revs drop so low that you do not have the full 450 RWHP to leverage. See my point?
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Old Apr 17, 2002 | 10:58 PM
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Default Re: Top Speeds per gear? (Adam Bruce)

6600 RPM's in 5th is 175. I weigh 240lbs and if that is slowing my car down 2 miles then I wont biggie size for 2-3 months. Did that speed several times and check out http://www.racingfreaks.net for the videos
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 06:34 AM
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6600 RPM's in 5th is 175. I weigh 240lbs and if that is slowing my car down 2 miles then I wont biggie size for 2-3 months.
Your weight will not affect the top end speed. It just might take a hair longer to get there ... that's all. :D The only factors in play at steady top speed is aerodynamic drag and rolling resistance. Of course if a vehicle weighs hundreds of lbs more than another, then the rolling resistance will be slightly higher, but not by much. The aerodrag takes ~95% of the required HP, and the rolling resistance acconts for the remaining 5%.
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