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Jan 4, 2011 | 10:09 PM

aharlan001

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Help 1997 ebcm part numbers/compatability

I have diagnosed an ecbm problem in my 97, I am under the impression that these cannot be repaired (absfixer and the like said they can't be repaired)... I'm probably going to end up at the junkyard but before that I was wondering if

#1: Part STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS Part # ABS1732 found at sites below is the same as acdelco# 9355246.

#2: If 9355246 (1997 rear mounted ebcm) is compatible with 9367071 (1998-2000 front mounted ebcm)

Thanks!

http://www.rockauto.com/dbphp/x,carc...ol_Module.html

http://catalog.oehq.com/ShopByVehicl...=True&rewrite=

Jan 5, 2011 | 12:10 AM

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cant be repaired...

but i seen them for sale on here for 300 bucks or so... in the FS section

Jan 5, 2011 | 12:13 AM

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Problem is the 97 is the only rear mounted year and from what I understand the later years are not backwards comparable

Jan 5, 2011 | 12:15 AM

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Problem is the 97 is the only rear mounted year and from what I understand the later years are not backwards comparable

98 too i think is rear mounted... the newer models with front mounted abs could be sent for a rebuilt

Jan 5, 2011 | 12:18 AM

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Only half of the 98s are rear mounted ... Bummer ... Should I assume anyplace that sells the Acbm and has a core charge is then thinking that the 97 is a repairable type see above link

Jan 5, 2011 | 12:20 AM

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98 too i think is rear mounted... the newer models with front mounted abs could be sent for a rebuilt

MY 98 is up front, but mine is a mid year.. Still unable to rebuild.. Only the 2001 and newer are rebuild-able.

Jan 5, 2011 | 12:27 AM

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So are the unrepairable front mounted 98-00 comparable with the unrepairable rear mounted 97-98 (different part number than 98-00 although some sites list it as the same)?

Jan 5, 2011 | 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by aharlan001

Problem is the 97 is the only rear mounted year and from what I understand the later years are not backwards comparable

That is incorrect, my (Early '98) has the EBCM mounted in the rear and later they were put up front and they came with the Active handling option!

Yes! the 9367071 will work on your '97 - that is the part number for the NON Active Handling Model EBTCM and is compatible with all years up to 2000 'WITHOUT' Active Handling

I also have the other part numbers that were before and superceed - I will post them later - that is so you can find a good used one like I had to!

Thanks,Matt

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Jan 5, 2011 | 05:19 PM

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So are the unrepairable front mounted 98-00 comparable with the unrepairable rear mounted 97-98 (different part number than 98-00 although some sites list it as the same)?

Here is my research for our Model EBTCM: ALL THE PART NUMBERS LISTED BELOW ARE INTERCHANGEABLE!!!

"ANY" REAR or FRONT Mounted EBTCM Module 1997 - 2000 with the NON-JL4 option (Non-active Handling) with "ANY" of the part numbers listed will work

Interchangeable ABS Modules for 1997-2000
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I spoke with GM today and got all the INTERCHANGEABLE numbers for the ABS Module for the NON-ACTIVE HANDLING Corvettes (NON-JL4)

Here they are, these are all interchangeable and are succession numbers for our Vettes with NON-ACTIVE Handling (Non-JL4):

Point to remember: All these are "OUT" of PRODUCTION and can't be bought new anymore

ABS-5/TCS/MSVA2 M (Non-JL4)

GM 16268689

GM 16257049

New GM # (Aparent replacement part number, but out of production )

GM 19244085

AC DELCO Part Numbers:

9367071

9350153

That's it and all these are "OUT" of production, "BUT" they are all interchangeable . We can only find ones that are used and in good working condition.

If you search and find anyone of these listed part numbers above it will work on your Corvette!

If you need to speak with me on this issue you can always call too!

Thanks,Matt 661-406-7516

Jan 5, 2011 | 05:55 PM

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Hey Matt are the JL4 ones interchangable too? If you can please post the numbers for them too just in case. Also can non jl4 be put in a jl4 car to keep ABS and TC working and have the AH programed out.

Jan 6, 2011 | 03:29 PM

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Yes! The JL4's are interchangeable too from LATE '98 - 2000 -

The part number for the JL4 option (Active handling) is:

Ac Delco #9376711

I do not have any succeding numbers. I never did additional research for the JL4 since mine is JL9 "BUT" all you have to do is call any GM Parts service Department and they will give you the numbers that interchange

I can do this too but I will have to do it either later today or tomorrow!

The dealer will have in it's computer all the succeeding numbers and can give us the list of numbers - that way if someone is selling one ou will be armed with the info beforehand

Thanks,Matt

Jan 6, 2011 | 03:37 PM

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Also can non jl4 be put in a jl4 car to keep ABS and TC working and have the AH programed out.

That one I can't answer. I have wondered this myself and have thought about doing a test or something -

I know from experience it "CANNOT" be programmed out - GM said, if I remember right, that they wont work if you tried to switch them out.

I had thought about using or trying a AH Module (Module Model JL4 #9376711) in a NON-AH (JL9 Module Model #9367071) Vette before and seeing if it would work.

"BUT" and a big "BUT" I would never try a NON-AH (JL9 Module Model #9367071) in a AH Module (Module Model JL4 #9376711) equiped Corvette

that I believe would be dangerous

Thanks,Matt

Jan 6, 2011 | 03:45 PM

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Thanks

Thanks everyone for the info... I ended up getting a 97 from another member (even though as we've established all non active handling up to 00 are compatible) thanks again you guys rock!

PS: it looks like standard motor is no longer rebuilding the one in the link I have posted above, oehq said they weren't, rock auto said were, (the oehq guy sounded a lot more knowledgeable) but the standard motor site still has it listed as an available part so I'm not sure...

Jan 6, 2011 | 10:49 PM

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I have a 97 C5 and have Active Handling. One of my shocks messed up and was squeeking. Instead of replacing the shock I upgraded to the C6 Z06 Shocks.

I removed the little box that plugged in the back hatch area on the drivers side. My local dealer turned off the active handling in the ECU I think.

I guess my question is will my traction control and ABS still work?? Everything works fine it seems. Car has never felt better suspension wise. I am just hoping I didnt "F" something up and not know about it.

Plus it would be nice to sell that little box and the three perfect shocks since I am not using them.

Jan 6, 2011 | 11:49 PM

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corvettesalvage.com rebuilds the early ABS modules ('97-2000)-not outrageously expensive,but not exactly cheap,either.

Jan 7, 2011 | 01:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ITSQUIK

AH and active suspension are 2 different things. I am guessing you mean active suspension as it CAN be programmed out if you change shocks. AH uses the ABS to keep you going straight.So yes your ABS and TC are un affected.

Jan 7, 2011 | 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ITSQUIK

I believe you are speaking of the F45 "SUSPENSION" or selective ride suspension (Shocks)

Not the JL4 Option of "ACTIVE HANDLING" - the 1997 only comes with JL9 standard "TRACTION CONTROL" with the ABS System. (Thus the Module)

With the F45 being removed you need to have a TUNER turn OFF the suspension in the PCM or use the SIMULATORS and plug those in where you unplugged them from the original F45 shocks - soon you will get a code noting something wrong with the suspension and it might limit your speed -

Here is the options page for your Year:
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...97/97rpos.html

And the 1997 Page:
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...997/index.html

Thanks,Matt

Jan 7, 2011 | 06:45 AM

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corvettesalvage.com rebuilds the early ABS modules ('97-2000)-not outrageously expensive,but not exactly cheap,either.

Contrary to popular CLAIMS the 1997 - 200 cannot be rebuilt, they are impossible to get to the oppsite side of the board since they are "SUNK" in epoxy -

The processor cannot be removed - "ONLY" solder joints can be checked and that is about it -

I did a write up on one with pictures showing the details

So don't believe it when they claim this

Unfortunetaly all we can do is replace ours

with a good used one.

Thanks,Matt

Jan 7, 2011 | 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by madmatt9471

So don't believe it when they claim this

Unfortunetaly all we can do is replace ours

with a good used one.

Thanks,Matt

Just going by what they say on the site-for the $795 that they get to do it,maybe it's not "impossible",it might just be a real biotch to do.
http://corvettesalvage.com/index.php...x&cPath=65_178
or maybe they just send you back a good used one-site says they've got 35 units in stock.
Personally,If I needed one and couldn't find one anywhere else,I wouldn't care if they pulled one out of their a$$,as long as I got a working unit back...

Jan 7, 2011 | 09:22 AM

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I know - I looked at their website too. I seen the 35 in stock.

That was my thought too, that perhaps you send yours in and they send you one they recovered from and wrecked or salvaged Vette.

It might end up being that one day the $795 will be a deal or someone will make a replacement for them!

On the flip side in order for them to remove the board it would be literall destroyed in the process or they would have to cut the epoxy'd side of the module open and the aluminum weld it back together

Thanks,Matt

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