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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 03:35 AM
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Not to bash at ALL, but I slightly disagree with you. I've wanted a vette since I was 6 and laid my eyes on a '69 427 Stingray; told myself Id have one someday. Ive had a job sine I was 15, and bought my first vette when I was 21. Right now Im putting myself through college, and although my parents help out with some expenses, most is on me. I dont think it has much to do with the age group at all. Im SURE there were guys in '69 that had daddy buy them a new Z28 in high school. And not to pat myself on the back at all, BUT, just bc you may see a young guy driving a nice car, do not assume its daddy's and do not assume they are spoiled.

With all that said, LONG LIVE SPEED!!
Yep he is right, my parents do not make crazy money or anything and they bought me a 05 Toyota camry when I was in highschool. I saved my money for two years working 8/9 hours every Saturday and Sunday as a server in a resturant when other highschool kids were out having fun.

And for about a year, I had to take a bus and then a train to go to my work, about 1 hour 30 minutes one way and then my parents dropped the 10k for my camry.

I have worked hard to pay for my vette and still work hard now that I have my car. I am a full time college student and work about 35 hours a week.

I just hate people that just assume that my parents have money and they bought my car. It makes me even more mad when they **** with my car thinking I have money as it has happened a few times

With that being said it is not that hard to save money when you are 18 an have no bills to pay
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 03:56 AM
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I've met countless rich kids who had sh*t handed to them on a platter and I've never had one of them ever admit to being a rich kid.

They see their situations in a skewed fashion. Some live at home, bill free, yet work and have 30k cars. Sure they "work" for it, but they aren't paying the bills others are, yet they fail to recognize that. Parents fund their college education, pay for books, pay for accomodations, yet they work and spend all their spare cash on doing what they want.

I know this one kid...he has a new truck, an Audi S4 modded like crazy, three street bikes, countless dirt bikes and he says he busts his *** racing for it all. His dad bought a 300k toter-home to take all his brand new paid for dirt bikes to races. He races multiple classes and some weekends will take home 3k in contingency money. He doesn't pay for a drop of fuel, doesn't pay for his bikes, doesn't pay for damages...nothin...yet he DOES pay for his truck, car, etc. He swears he BUSTS his ***, breaks his arms for that stuff and noone can tell him different.

I've yet to meet someone eating from the golden spoon ever admit they had it easy...they're all convinced their killin themselves to own what they own. I was homeless...lived in an abandoned house when I was 16, worked my way out, paid for my own college, paid for my own everything. Not saying I'm better than anyone just sayin...to own at Vette at 19...something is comin easy.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 04:16 AM
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I've met countless rich kids who had sh*t handed to them on a platter and I've never had one of them ever admit to being a rich kid.

They see their situations in a skewed fashion. Some live at home, bill free, yet work and have 30k cars. Sure they "work" for it, but they aren't paying the bills others are, yet they fail to recognize that. Parents fund their college education, pay for books, pay for accomodations, yet they work and spend all their spare cash on doing what they want.

I know this one kid...he has a new truck, an Audi S4 modded like crazy, three street bikes, countless dirt bikes and he says he busts his *** racing for it all. His dad bought a 300k toter-home to take all his brand new paid for dirt bikes to races. He races multiple classes and some weekends will take home 3k in contingency money. He doesn't pay for a drop of fuel, doesn't pay for his bikes, doesn't pay for damages...nothin...yet he DOES pay for his truck, car, etc. He swears he BUSTS his ***, breaks his arms for that stuff and noone can tell him different.

I've yet to meet someone eating from the golden spoon ever admit they had it easy...they're all convinced their killin themselves to own what they own. I was homeless...lived in an abandoned house when I was 16, worked my way out, paid for my own college, paid for my own everything. Not saying I'm better than anyone just sayin...to own at Vette at 19...something is comin easy.
Like I said above, living at home with parents at 18 means I have no big bills to pay. Thus it's lot more easy to buy a vette.But lot of people have this notion that many kids in vettes or other nice cars just have parents that buy it. I have a friend who got a brand new is 350 when he was a senior in High school with me, right bow he probably has about a good 20k in mods in that car all paid by his parents.

There might be many like him, however there are also people who work hard for what they have and have paid for it all by them self. Obviously this was made more easy by the fact that I have parents who have a decent income and I do not have to pay for rent or food. Everything else, from gas, insurance,books for college, and the classes I am taking at a JC are paid by me.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 06:29 AM
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I have a Blown Vette which seems "bader" than a regular old ZO-6.
In a straight line or on a road course? Really depends on how you define performance.

Also, hopefully you upgraded your drivetrain or the relatively inexpensive mods done to your coupe my end up costing you a big-ole bag of money someday. Where the Z06 comes factory with a more durable drivetrain and engine components.

If I were planning to mod, I would definitely play it safe and start with a Z06 since I don't mind the FRC.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 02:59 PM
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All comes down to looks of the coupe for me - I'd rather have a coupe and make it faster than a Z-06 cause I'm not a fan of the long flat back end. If that weren't enough, the targa top in itself was reason for my eyes to look past the FRC bodies and focus on the coupe. Too easy to upgrade an LS-1 to surpass the Z-06 so not that exotic in my rational.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 03:15 PM
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I see it like this.



Almost all cars have the potential to be fast (If not fast from factory), if your deemed on pure speed per dollar then a c5 coupe/frc/pontiac/ford/dodge will better suit you since you will be paying less overall (price), but some people buy cars for what they are and what they stand for.


I bought my Z06 because I wanted a Z06 and didnt want just another everyday coupe. I bought my z06 because of the heritage behind it and what it stands for. I suggest you buy a car for reasons other than speed, cause all cars can be made fast. Sometimes its worth the extra dollars to get that better model. Just a sugg.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mel3535
Yep he is right, my parents do not make crazy money or anything and they bought me a 05 Toyota camry when I was in highschool. I saved my money for two years working 8/9 hours every Saturday and Sunday as a server in a resturant when other highschool kids were out having fun.

And for about a year, I had to take a bus and then a train to go to my work, about 1 hour 30 minutes one way and then my parents dropped the 10k for my camry.

I have worked hard to pay for my vette and still work hard now that I have my car. I am a full time college student and work about 35 hours a week.

I just hate people that just assume that my parents have money and they bought my car. It makes me even more mad when they **** with my car thinking I have money as it has happened a few times

With that being said it is not that hard to save money when you are 18 an have no bills to pay

Thats really cool, I always love hearing/meeting other young kids who have gone after what they want. Especially when that thing is a vette

Originally Posted by WillEE
All comes down to looks of the coupe for me - I'd rather have a coupe and make it faster than a Z-06 cause I'm not a fan of the long flat back end. If that weren't enough, the targa top in itself was reason for my eyes to look past the FRC bodies and focus on the coupe. Too easy to upgrade an LS-1 to surpass the Z-06 so not that exotic in my rational.
Its also too easy to upgrade a Z06 to surpass Ferraris and Porsches of the same years. You can always out Mod the other guy, all depends on the look and image you want.

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I see it like this.



Almost all cars have the potential to be fast (If not fast from factory), if your deemed on pure speed per dollar then a c5 coupe/frc/pontiac/ford/dodge will better suit you since you will be paying less overall (price), but some people buy cars for what they are and what they stand for.


I bought my Z06 because I wanted a Z06 and didnt want just another everyday coupe. I bought my z06 because of the heritage behind it and what it stands for. I suggest you buy a car for reasons other than speed, cause all cars can be made fast. Sometimes its worth the extra dollars to get that better model. Just a sugg.
Corvette Z06, the OTHER OTHER Freekin Fast car!
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 03:49 PM
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I like the coupes and the Z06 both. I like to go fast, period. I tend to prefer the sleeper next to the overt high performance model but either C5 is a nice ride in my opinion.
I am pretty happy with the Z51 coupe with the forged motor and twin turbos but would also enjoy owning a FRC Z06 too.
My last toy was a newer Mustang GT vert that was heavily modded and ran very low 11 seconds consistently, which really took many GT500 owners and C6 owners by surprise. Getting some air under the front tires while racing a Viper and winning is a total rush.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 04:14 PM
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"You can always out Mod the other guy, all depends on the look and image you want."



I agree - that statement in itself about sums it up - no sense beating the topic apart any further. Starting to realize these debates are almost as useless as trying to convert a person's political affiliation - useless. Some people want a Z cause it's faster, some don't cause it's less cool looking (in their opinion) and/or top is stuck on, others want a Z cause of the plastic emblem is enough to justify the price & boost to image, lots & lots of reasons and although some are lamer than others it just doesn't matter what anyone else thinks as long as your happy.
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Originally Posted by WillEE
All comes down to looks of the coupe for me - I'd rather have a coupe and make it faster than a Z-06 cause I'm not a fan of the long flat back end. If that weren't enough, the targa top in itself was reason for my eyes to look past the FRC bodies and focus on the coupe. Too easy to upgrade an LS-1 to surpass the Z-06 so not that exotic in my rational.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 06:47 PM
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When choosing what car I wanted for a hobby/track toy after narrowing it down it really only came down to the C5 LS1 or the C5 Z06. When I started my search, I did not think these 2 were going to be the only cars I would be able to choose from.

Go through this list of requirements and find another car that meets them. Once you find that there aren't any others, than it becomes apparent that the Z06 and the LS1 are really a lot closer to each other than most people seem to admit.

My list of requirements in order of importance:

FR or MR layout
Reliable and inexpensive to maintain
good handling and weight distribution
~3000lbs or less
6 speed manual tranmission
~$15k
Track proven
300hp+
not cramped
luxurious/stylish

Here are some other cars that didn't make the cut:
E36 M3
E46 M3
350Z/G35
S2000
Gen III RX7
996 Carrera
Porsche 968
Acura NSX
C4 LT4
Mitsu Evo
Mazda Miata
Saturn Sky GXP

All the cars above, including the C5 fall short in some areas. Likewise, they can all be modified to improve on their shortcomings. I just found the C5 was the closest to what I wanted out of the box and the easiest to improve on in the areas that it was lacking(luxuriousness). There are some things however that are extremely difficult or impossible to improve and those include: reliability, cost of repairs, interior room, and weight. I would say almost all the cars on that list get eliminated just by those 4 attributes.

If my list had said 400hp+ instead of 300hp+ I probably would have bought a Z06. The price to performance ratio of both is about the same, with the edge going to the z06. Nothing else still comes close to either car though.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 07:35 PM
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I had a 99 FRC with bolt on engine mods, bilstein sports, great car. I traded it in on stock Z06, way better car. Now the Z06 has basic bolt on engine mods, PS2 tires, awsome car. There is no doubt you can make a coup faster in a straight line, around the track it will be more difficult. GM put a lot of R&D into the Z06, they really dialed it in. If you get the chance to drive both really hard, the differences really stand out.
If cruising around and blasting through the gears with the top off is your thing, more power to you. But to get the "total package" for all out performance, Z06.
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I like the coupe look better than the Z, so I purchased a coupe. I also read that the aerodynamics on the coupe would allow a higher top speed. Since I plan on upgrading the power of our coupe, it was the logical choice for us. I think it all comes down to what style you prefer. Both are great cars.
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I also read that the aerodynamics on the coupe would allow a higher top speed. Since I plan on upgrading the power of our coupe, it was the logical choice for us.
Are you planning on doing salt flat runs?
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Are you planning on doing salt flat runs?
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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 09:49 AM
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Crazy thing I learned about my coupe. I CAN SLEEP IN IT.
Seriously, I was on a long trip, pulled over for a couple hours at a rest stop. THe seat thing wasn't working for me and I was in too much of a hurry to just ify a room. Climbed in the back, head under hatch, legs between seats. I could lay out long ways. At 5'10 205 it was so comfy that I over slept.

I thought it was funny that I had a corvette and I could over night in the thing. (if needed)
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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Atok
Are you planning on doing salt flat runs?


Also think it's funny hearing all the coupe owners that are saying their "modded" coupe is faster than a stock Z06.

It all comes down to what your goals are. If you want a faster car, get the Z. If you prefer the Coupe looks over having a faster car, get the coupe. There is nothing wrong with either since they are both Corvettes
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Nope,,, The Texas Mile....With a s/c it should do very well in the mile. You could put a s/c on the Z and also do well at the Texas Mile. I built and still have a car that I ran in the Silverstate Challenge race. 90 miles all out. It averaged 161 mph. Aero is big at top speed.
s/c coupe makes 575 to 600 hp at the flywheel.

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In a straight line or on a road course? Really depends on how you define performance.

Also, hopefully you upgraded your drivetrain or the relatively inexpensive mods done to your coupe my end up costing you a big-ole bag of money someday. Where the Z06 comes factory with a more durable drivetrain and engine components.

If I were planning to mod, I would definitely play it safe and start with a Z06 since I don't mind the FRC.
I have a C-5 ZO-6 suspension as well as a FLT level 5 tranny with
RPM couplers. My drivedrain is much more sturdy than a factory
ZO-5 or 6 drivetrain. I wont go into the coolers,torq converter, etc.
Inexpensive Mods ??? I wish. 550 rwhp/500 torq (on the ground).
There is no easy way to get horsepower.
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I have a C-5 ZO-6 suspension as well as a FLT level 5 tranny with
RPM couplers. My drivedrain is much more sturdy than a factory
ZO-5 or 6 drivetrain. I wont go into the coolers,torq converter, etc.
Inexpensive Mods ??? I wish. 550 rwhp/500 torq (on the ground).
There is no easy way to get horsepower.
Opps , I made a mistake my springs are C-5 ZO-6 the rest is
C-6 ZO-6 suspension.
I still like a blown vette!!!
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