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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 03:48 PM
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Some idiot asked why you would pick a A4 over an M6...simple because the A4 is faster...right

Has anyone come up with a paddle shifter kit for the C5 yet?

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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 03:54 PM
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Going by facts, the manual is more efficient than the automatic meaning you put more hp to the ground. Manuals also have deeper gears in the rear end making them faster

I picked a manual over an automatic as that is what I prefer. Some people don't want a manual. That is fine. Automatics are by far more consistent at the track.

I've heard of people developing paddle shifters. As the saying goes, do a search, you'll find threads. Then again, hopefully someone can just post a link for you here.
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an auto is not faster than an m6.
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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 04:11 PM
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I have 6 speed only because I enjoy driving a Corvette and shifting. Also it was not a daily driver while I was still working, and now that I am retired I drive it when I feel like it. As already stated the manual gear box is more efficient and actually faster. If I had to do it over and it was going to be a daily driver or I was planning on doing a lot of drag racing, than I would go with the auto. If you are going to track it on a road course, I would think the manual would be the way to go.

As for paddle shifters, I remember a few months back theren was a post here on a company that was doing a sequential shifter and I also believe they were talking paddle also. the cost was well above what I would want to spend.
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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 04:18 PM
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The same old, OLD story ...


Most drivers will go faster (in any car) in an automatic because it's very difficult to correctly and consistently row a 6 speed .. especially off the line.




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^^^^^^^^^i do not agree with that at all.

if that was true no one would drag race any stick vehicles but they do.

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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 04:32 PM
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^^^^^^^^^i do not agree with that at all.
Well next time you go to the drag strip look and see how many cars are auto verses a manual gear box. Yes the Pro Stock launch with a clutch, but that is the last time they touch it. Automatics are so much more consistent than a manual at the drag
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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ronssito
The same old, OLD story ...


Most drivers will go faster (in any car) in an automatic because it's very difficult to correctly and consistently row a 6 speed .. especially off the line.

Sorry.....beg to differ for all the reasons stated above and the fact you have a much better feel for the car with a 6 speed.
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Originally Posted by TR6speed
Well next time you go to the drag strip look and see how many cars are auto verses a manual gear box. Yes the Pro Stock launch with a clutch, but that is the last time they touch it. Automatics are so much more consistent than a manual at the drag
This is true if you go to the 1/4 track.
If you run a REAL Track event on a Road Course , look and see how many auto verses a manual gear box. Manuals are so much more consistent than automatic on a Road Course. Corvettes strong suit is Road Racing not drag racing
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Originally Posted by Bimmervet
This is true if you go to the 1/4 track.
If you run a REAL Track event on a Road Course , look and see how many auto verses a manual gear box. Manuals are so much more consistent than automatic on a Road Course. Corvettes strong suit is Road Racing not drag racing

I mentioned that in my first reply to the OP. Drags = Automatic, Road Course = Manual.
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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by imavettegirl
an auto is not faster than an m6.
Maybe not when completely stock, because you can adjust the launch speed a little better, and they come with a better rear gear from the factory; but after a TC and gears.........Ohhhh yes it is

A manual is probably the best for a road course, but a modded auto is a GREAT drag race set up

1 The torque converter multiplies the output torque output far above a manual, which is simply whatever amount the engine produces.
2. The shift are lighting fast
3. It NEVER misses a shift
4. Once dialed in, It shifts at the perfect RPM EVERY time.

And guys drag race 6 speeds (and autos) because "That's what they have"
The same reason guys go bow hunting instead of hunting with a rifle; They see it as more "exciting" and more of a challenge

Not taking anything away from the enjoyment of rowing gears for guys that want that, but my DD is a 5 speed, and one, I get all the "gear rowing" I want, and two; when I drive my Vette, my wife is usually with me,and I just simply have better things to do with my "free" hand
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Undoubtedly an auto tranny car with a nice stall converter will outperform a similarly equipped manually tranny car at the drags. That's a no-brainer. But my 16 yr-old daughter could do just as well as anybody in that car and takes a more skilled driver to pull off a solid run with a standard tranny. But that's all really beside the point for me.

This is what swayed me away from autos in sports cars.

It was a warm summer night and while fillin the tank at a gas station on a desolate dark road heard the glorious sound of a potent (insert any car name here) coming up the road from the stop light. 1st gear, 2nd gear (as it roars by), 3rd gear, 4th gear....you know the rest of the story. What was so impressive about this was that engine sound reacting off the sudden pause in between gear shifts. A sound that an automatic tranny is simply unable to produce no matter what. This is the sound of an authentic driver's sports car and was enough for me - will never own an auto-tranny sports car again. So the autos can take 1/4mile trophy most days but the benefits of driving the manual go on and on from there for most driving enthusiasts.
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Originally Posted by Bimmervet
This is true if you go to the 1/4 track.
If you run a REAL Track event on a Road Course , look and see how many auto verses a manual gear box. Manuals are so much more consistent than automatic on a Road Course. Corvettes strong suit is Road Racing not drag racing
Something that is lost on so many people, I get tired of pointing it out personally
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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBigDog
Some idiot asked why you would pick a A4 over an M6...simple because the A4 is faster...right

Has anyone come up with a paddle shifter kit for the C5 yet?

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Here is the info on the Paddle Shifters: for borh a manual and auto trans.


http://mastershift.com/newvideogallery.html
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Old Feb 15, 2011 | 11:53 PM
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I've never seen or heard of anyone putting a paddle shirter setup on a C5.
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Originally Posted by Blow Torch
Maybe not when completely stock, because you can adjust the launch speed a little better, and they come with a better rear gear from the factory; but after a TC and gears.........Ohhhh yes it is

A manual is probably the best for a road course, but a modded auto is a GREAT drag race set up

1 The torque converter multiplies the output torque output far above a manual, which is simply whatever amount the engine produces.
2. The shift are lighting fast
3. It NEVER misses a shift
4. Once dialed in, It shifts at the perfect RPM EVERY time.

And guys drag race 6 speeds (and autos) because "That's what they have"
The same reason guys go bow hunting instead of hunting with a rifle; They see it as more "exciting" and more of a challenge

Not taking anything away from the enjoyment of rowing gears for guys that want that, but my DD is a 5 speed, and one, I get all the "gear rowing" I want, and two; when I drive my Vette, my wife is usually with me,and I just simply have better things to do with my "free" hand
Originally Posted by WillEE
Undoubtedly an auto tranny car with a nice stall converter will outperform a similarly equipped manually tranny car at the drags. That's a no-brainer. But my 16 yr-old daughter could do just as well as anybody in that car and takes a more skilled driver to pull off a solid run with a standard tranny. But that's all really beside the point for me.

This is what swayed me away from autos in sports cars.

It was a warm summer night and while fillin the tank at a gas station on a desolate dark road heard the glorious sound of a potent (insert any car name here) coming up the road from the stop light. 1st gear, 2nd gear (as it roars by), 3rd gear, 4th gear....you know the rest of the story. What was so impressive about this was that engine sound reacting off the sudden pause in between gear shifts. A sound that an automatic tranny is simply unable to produce no matter what. This is the sound of an authentic driver's sports car and was enough for me - will never own an auto-tranny sports car again. So the autos can take 1/4mile trophy most days but the benefits of driving the manual go on and on from there for most driving enthusiasts.


Getting outta the gas three times on the 1/4 to shift, all things being equal,,,you are gonna get beat by an auto! Road course,,, the auto is toast! Compromise,,NO,,I'll keep my MN6!
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I prefer a manual. Simply because there is no skill involved when driving an automatic. Plus I like to be in control of when I change gears. My first car was an auto. Which is why I went to manuals.
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I'm bored with automatics. Simply put, they don't do anything for me.
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 06:57 AM
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I traded my 99 automatic coupe in, for a 2004 six speed manual for the gas mileage.
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I've had both types of trannys in my C5s - two MN6s and now an auto. The manuals were fun, but I just wanted a change. The auto still has good performance and I don't have to worry about missing shifts. I do miss the gas mileage though - I was getting at least 3 mpg more in the manual tranny cars than I do with the auto.
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