Don't see 110 out this way. Even if available I don't understand a good reason to do it?.....

 

It was running $8.29/gal last time I was at the track (end of last fall), but all of the gas at the track (even the 91 I put in mine) was $0.50/gal or so more expensive than driving a few miles from the track to a gas station down the road (110 was not available there).

 

Saw it last week when getting gas on the North end of the Tail of the Dragon and it was $7.29/gal. No thanks... They said the crotch rockets all fuel up with it..

 

Harder starting and more unburned fuel to the cats. Not a good idea.

Octane is a measure of the resistance to ignition not power. The power in gas is in the BTU's and all grades of gas have the same amount of BTU's at 115,000 btu's per gallon.

burning 2,545 btu's/hr yeilds 1 hp.

No production vehicle sold in the US can use 110 octane. Add boost then yeah!

 

$4.99 gallon.....

 

Yow! Anywhere from $5 to over $8 per gallon! Methinks I'll stick with good ol' 93 for my cruiser.

 

I don't believe you. The ONLY leaded gas sold is aviation gas.

 

I've never seen 110 Octane gas for sale around here. I'll stick to 91 and 93.

 

Not true. Most gas at most race tracks are leaded race gas. Some tracks have both.

 

Torco Racing fuels sells 110 leaded.

http://torcoracefuel.net/pro-fuels.html

As the others have said - there is no reason to pay almost double per gallon and get absolutely no benefit.

 

No need to be a jerk about it, im sure youve asked your fair share of questions when learning about something right? at one point you didnt know the answer either.

 

I am amazed at all the smart people who think 110 will make their car run better, bikers also, I say this because instead of listening to the BS friends/shops tell you, 5 minutes on the net will tell the facts....even back in the day with 11-1 427 "true" big blocks they didn't even need it, A FOOL AND HIS MONEY ARE SOON PARTED....LOL

sorry if I offended anyone but smart people are often ignorant of easy to find facts.

 

So, you are saying I am a liar??..

Link to a local forum to me...I live in colonial heights...maybe you can join that forum and call them liars too....BTW..most avation fuel is unleaded....F##K you turd...

http://www.fullthrottleforums.com/sh...ght=turbo+blue


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local dragstrips have been known to carry hi-octane (110+) in both leaded and unleaded .... have seen this all over the country myself.

 

TNRAT is correct on the Leaded 110 fuel.

The Shell station on 11E near Bristol has sold 110 leaded fuel for years.
There are other stations in the Tri-cities area that sell this fuel as well.
I used to use some in my big block Chevelle.

Bob

 

Thanks Bob...

 

That's a pretty ignorant statement for someone being so bold. A cursory internet search before flaming another person trying to participate in a discussion is usually a good idea.

 

Since I ride/race a mostly stock motorcycle, at times I mix race fuel with either regular 87, or premium 91 - 93 octane to gain 1 to 5hp. Keep in mind, gaining 5hp on a bike can be noticeable. I think the principle should also apply to most if not all combustible engines.

MUST READ:

1. Standard Race Fuel (VP C12, C14, Sunoco 104, 100LL AvGas even high octane pump gas 96 or 100) ran straight on a stock RC51 motor will actually lose horsepower.

This is argued by many because the throttle response becomes crisper & is often mistaken for more performance when in truth the bike is making less power on the dyno sometimes by as much a 4-6hp. Many race fuels are designed for higher compression engines >13.0:1 & simply do not perform well in low compression motors like our RC51 (10.8:1). As has been noted many times on just about every sportbike forum on the net more octane does not mean more power! It simply means more resistance to detonation. If a higher octane fuel happens to make more power in a motor it is because of the additives in the fuel having the potential for more energy not just because it is higher octane.

What can be beneficial, but not always so is a blend of about 25/75 of race fuel & pump gas (1 gallon of race fuel added to 3 gallons of premium pump gas) which has been shown to consistently yield a horsepower or two. However I strongly urge you to stay away from the race fuels on a street bike if for no other reason than the extra contaminants it will leave in your motor. For me the cost of premature wear on the motor is not worth the negligible horsepower gains.

2. Oxygenated Race Fuels (Nutec #4, VP MR1 etc) can add 3-5hp without any fuel or mapping changes at all & 5-10hp sometimes even more on a stock motor with proper mapping & lots of playing around with the ignition timing. Some oxygenated fuels benefit from retarding the ignition while others benefit from advancing it.

The catch is that A. the stuff is really expensive usually about $15-$20 a gallon & B. it is highly corrosive & must be drained from your tank after each race weekend to keep it from eating parts of your fuel system. There are also many true horror stories of racers getting a bad batch of Nutek & ruining a set of carbs or throttle bodies due to a varnish that settles onto the components that is basically impossible to remove. I have actually witnessed this myself once & could not believe how bad it actually was.

There are some newer oxygenated fuels out now such as VP MR9 & Ultimate 4 which is claimed to be much less caustic to fuel system components (o-rings, gaskets etc..). I have sampled the MR9 & was very impressed with the performance & the Ultimate 4 is just plain awesome even in a stock motor, but as the cost of gas soars, $16 a gallon is pretty hard to swallow. I've been mixing it about 50/50 on my stock engines with excellent results. Not as powerful as the MR9, but nowhere near as expensive either.

3. In testing various grades of pump gas I consistently found that 87 octane fuel makes 1-2 more horsepower than those exact same bikes ran on Premium 93 octane.

We tested five liter class motorcycles (97 CBR900RR, 02 Honda 919, 2000 RC51, 2000 GSXR750 & an 02 R1) & only the R1 seemed unaffected by the octane of the fuel. Now I am certainly not going to tell you to run less than the recommended octane (92) in your RC51 as the specific needs of the motor dictate that a higher octane fuel is needed, but the results are blatant in that more octane does not mean more power.

It is only fair that I note that when testing the pump gas on some of the 600's (Yamaha R6 & the GSXR600) the inverse was true in that they did lose a little horsepower on the 87 octane vs the 93 octane. Most likely because of the higher compression ratios of the smaller motors, however the CBR600F4i gained a little horsepower.

Additional notes (not tested on the dyno): Never add any type of octane boosters or fuel system cleaners to your motorcycle tank. Additives sold in auto stores are designed to treat anywhere from 16-22 gallons of fuel from one small bottle of concentrate & more often than not those chemicals are very hazardous to your motorcycles fuel system especially if the mix ratio is not absolutely perfect. I cannot tell you how many carb jobs I have done over the years because some yahoo dumped half a bottle (or more) of octane booster into his fuel tank. The bike runs great for awhile but within a day or two a varnish starts to set up on the fuel system components & it just gets worse from there. Run quality fuels & stay away from the additives period.

 

The highest I ever saw was Hess 101+....when I worked there.
The + was because it was over 101 octane but not quite 102.....but it was indeed in the days before unleaded .
Oh and it was 36 cents a gallon ....

 

As a Chemical Engineer, I can verify that Octane has LESS energy than an equivalent amount amount of gasoline. So the higher the octane, the LESS energy the fuel has. As has been correctly stated, the ONLY reason you would give up energy by adding Octane is if it's necessary to prevent detonation.