Rim Help Please!
Le Mans Master
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Thanks for the input and well taken...I guess I had better first determine if I have stock rims or not. Seems the rims I got on the car may be crap knock offs already. They look the same as the chrome knock-off rims I'm seeing for sale everywhere.
I still have to wonder - how much of a difference will heavier, cheap, chinese knock off's make for general, spirited road driving? I'm not racing the thing. My guess is the weight gain would not be noticeable. Am I wrong? Thoughts?
I still have to wonder - how much of a difference will heavier, cheap, chinese knock off's make for general, spirited road driving? I'm not racing the thing. My guess is the weight gain would not be noticeable. Am I wrong? Thoughts?
) other then spirited driving from time to time. I have to admit, the RUFF's were noticeably heavier. I wasn't much for the chrome look either and had them powder coated black. Price for coating was $475 for all 4. After putting them on the car I did notice that the new weight did give it rolling resistance compared to the stocker's. I got the wheels for a great deal, and was satisfied even with the added weight. I think you'll be ok with knockoff's especially if getting them from a forum vendor. knockoff's now a days are not "cheap" like yesteryear. They won't be as heavy as you might think either...well at least not compared to mine! I say go for it, you won't regret it! You only really run into balancing issues if you get wheels that are not hubcentric or require spacing...this should be a non-issue with knockoff's as they are corvette specific!
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Thanks for the input and well taken...I guess I had better first determine if I have stock rims or not. Seems the rims I got on the car may be crap knock offs already. They look the same as the chrome knock-off rims I'm seeing for sale everywhere.
I still have to wonder - how much of a difference will heavier, cheap, chinese knock off's make for general, spirited road driving? I'm not racing the thing. My guess is the weight gain would not be noticeable. Am I wrong? Thoughts?
I still have to wonder - how much of a difference will heavier, cheap, chinese knock off's make for general, spirited road driving? I'm not racing the thing. My guess is the weight gain would not be noticeable. Am I wrong? Thoughts?
There is nothing wrong with the repros we sell. I've been selling them for almost 3 years now and they're good wheels especially for the money.
Yes they are a tad heavier than stock. If you have chrome repros now you will lose weight. The black wheels are only 3-4 lbs heavier than stock.
You will not notice it at all for what you plan to do with the car. I actually have C6ers on the west coast who run these wheels on their track cars. They've held up very well.
The black deep dish wheels you're looking at weight 22.5lbs and 24.5 lbs
Last edited by JW Motorsports; May 4, 2011 at 01:12 PM.
Drifting
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OK, Ill be the square peg in the round hole, but I think what you already have is fantastic ! You've got a beautiful silver car and you want to put black rims on it ? I'd never do that. It's gonna cost you a ton of money and I'm betting you'll be sick of them in a year or so. Why ? You already have a beautiful coupe with a excellent silver / chrome rims that really highlights your ride. Just my $0,02 but I'd stay with what you've got. !
Melting Slicks
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Just keep in mind that 3 to 4 pounds of static weight increase on a rim increases dramatically the faster that rim spins. This is due to the centrifugal forces. Also, the closer the weight is to the hub, the less the impact. So, there are a few variables to keep in mind. Of course, there may be no perceptible difference in every day driving but as soon as you begin driving the Vette hard, you may feel a difference.
Burning Brakes
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hurts acceleration, fuel economy, handling and especially on bumpy surfaces
from Tire Rack (talking about steel vs. alloy wheels, but it holds true for light vs. heavier alloy):
Reduced Unsprung Weight Compared to Steel Wheels
This is one of the most critical factors affecting a vehicle's road holding ability. Unsprung weight is that portion of a vehicle that is not supported by the suspension (i.e. wheels, tires and brakes) and therefore most susceptible to road shock and cornering forces. By reducing unsprung weight, alloy wheels provide more precise steering input and improved "turning in" characteristics.
Improved Acceleration and Braking
By reducing the weight of the vehicle's rotational mass, alloy wheels provide more responsive acceleration and braking.
another source of info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automob...res_and_wheels
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unsprung weight is the worst kind of weight
hurts acceleration, fuel economy, handling and especially on bumpy surfaces
from Tire Rack (talking about steel vs. alloy wheels, but it holds true for light vs. heavier alloy):
Reduced Unsprung Weight Compared to Steel Wheels
This is one of the most critical factors affecting a vehicle's road holding ability. Unsprung weight is that portion of a vehicle that is not supported by the suspension (i.e. wheels, tires and brakes) and therefore most susceptible to road shock and cornering forces. By reducing unsprung weight, alloy wheels provide more precise steering input and improved "turning in" characteristics.
Improved Acceleration and Braking
By reducing the weight of the vehicle's rotational mass, alloy wheels provide more responsive acceleration and braking.
another source of info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automob...res_and_wheels
hurts acceleration, fuel economy, handling and especially on bumpy surfaces
from Tire Rack (talking about steel vs. alloy wheels, but it holds true for light vs. heavier alloy):
Reduced Unsprung Weight Compared to Steel Wheels
This is one of the most critical factors affecting a vehicle's road holding ability. Unsprung weight is that portion of a vehicle that is not supported by the suspension (i.e. wheels, tires and brakes) and therefore most susceptible to road shock and cornering forces. By reducing unsprung weight, alloy wheels provide more precise steering input and improved "turning in" characteristics.
Improved Acceleration and Braking
By reducing the weight of the vehicle's rotational mass, alloy wheels provide more responsive acceleration and braking.
another source of info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automob...res_and_wheels
I would also add that ROTATING MASS is the worst kind of unsprung weight. In addition to decreases comfort and handling, you will reduce braking ability and increase brake component wear with heavier wheels. I think the best recommendation here was that you find a decent set of used oem painted Z06 wheels and have them powder coated. I am also of the opinion that competition grey would look better than black on your silver car. But black would still be nice.
Race Director
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From: Pasco WA
I love black wheels on most stock Corvette colors, but I gotta say, your car looks really nice as it sits. My absolute fav combo is TR with black wheels, and black painted lower rear fascia.
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Le Mans Master
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Thanks for the input and again - to each his own I guess!
Do you guy's that seem to hate black rims honestly think that the following car's don't look good?
I agree that all black doesn't really look great but with a stainless/polished lip, I think it ties it all together...
Do you guy's that seem to hate black rims honestly think that the following car's don't look good?
I agree that all black doesn't really look great but with a stainless/polished lip, I think it ties it all together...
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Le Mans Master
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Thanks guy's...I appreciate the input on weight considerations. It was of big enough concern when I was racing bikes - spent $2k on magnesium rims and I noticed a huge difference. That was at the track though. I guess I wanted to believe that I could get an unobtainable best of both worlds scenario - light and cheap.
I would be happier with better quality and lighter rims, sure. I just was trying to keep the cost down.
Besides CCW and TSW, what are the other manufacturers making good priced, good quality, lighter rims? Thanks for your help!
I would be happier with better quality and lighter rims, sure. I just was trying to keep the cost down.
Besides CCW and TSW, what are the other manufacturers making good priced, good quality, lighter rims? Thanks for your help!
Le Mans Master
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Thanks guy's...I appreciate the input on weight considerations. It was of big enough concern when I was racing bikes - spent $2k on magnesium rims and I noticed a huge difference. That was at the track though. I guess I wanted to believe that I could get an unobtainable best of both worlds scenario - light and cheap.
I would be happier with better quality and lighter rims, sure. I just was trying to keep the cost down.
Besides CCW and TSW, what are the other manufacturers making good priced, good quality, lighter rims? Thanks for your help!
I would be happier with better quality and lighter rims, sure. I just was trying to keep the cost down.
Besides CCW and TSW, what are the other manufacturers making good priced, good quality, lighter rims? Thanks for your help!
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...forgestar.html
P.S.
Still nothing wrong with repros, you won't notice much of a difference from stock. You can't compare saving weight on the bike compared to a car. Even the lightest weight change on a bike makes a difference.
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Le Mans Master
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From: USA
Check out forgestar f14 or TSW Nurburgring. Heard good things, and look good too.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...forgestar.html
P.S.
Still nothing wrong with repros, you won't notice much of a difference from stock. You can't compare saving weight on the bike compared to a car. Even the lightest weight change on a bike makes a difference.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...forgestar.html
P.S.
Still nothing wrong with repros, you won't notice much of a difference from stock. You can't compare saving weight on the bike compared to a car. Even the lightest weight change on a bike makes a difference.
Last edited by MotoJB; May 4, 2011 at 02:41 PM.
