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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 04:46 PM
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i got in my vette today and went to start it and it gave me a message saying take out key wait 10 seconds and turn the car back on.After I did that i started it and went to back u and the car stalled i tried starting it again and it stalled again.Now there was a new message it said Service steering column.I am aware of the recall but i have it fixed at 2100 miles I'm now at about 21000 miles and it happened again could this really be the same thing?Well it looks like I'm stuck driving the stang till monday.
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 05:13 PM
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About 88% of the time this is caused by a bad battary. I was just through this 2 weeks ago. My 2000 I found never had anything done to it. I ordered the CLB right away but I did some checking on the battary and I found a bad cell. I went with the Optima Yellow top. Found a $30 off coupon on line for Advance Auto if I ordered it on line. Choose in store pickup and had it in a hour. One thing I did read was original problem could have been traced back to bad battaries made by AC Delco in the early production years of the C5. When the battaries were replaced they did use the correct # battary, but it should have been the professional version. You can tell if you have the professional installed 2 ways: Professional will be in small letters under the battary # and it will not have a handle. The big difference is the professional has a bigger reserve capacity, Optima Yellow meets the same specs. If you changed the lights or radio you want the bigger reserve.
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 05:25 PM
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About 88% of the time this is caused by a bad battary. I was just through this 2 weeks ago. My 2000 I found never had anything done to it. I ordered the CLB right away but I did some checking on the battary and I found a bad cell. I went with the Optima Yellow top. Found a $30 off coupon on line for Advance Auto if I ordered it on line. Choose in store pickup and had it in a hour. One thing I did read was original problem could have been traced back to bad battaries made by AC Delco in the early production years of the C5. When the battaries were replaced they did use the correct # battary, but it should have been the professional version. You can tell if you have the professional installed 2 ways: Professional will be in small letters under the battary # and it will not have a handle. The big difference is the professional has a bigger reserve capacity, Optima Yellow meets the same specs. If you changed the lights or radio you want the bigger reserve.
that may be it i just started it and the bat is only putting out 13 volts compared to its normal 14.6ish area but im not totally sure
nope not the battery i changed it and reset all the codes still locked

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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 06:20 PM
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Does the car have a CLB in it? If not it would have been wise to have installed one the day after you bought it? I will wager that the problem is related to the CL.
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 06:23 PM
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Watch this video (parts 1 & 2).

Make sure any battery you get has a RC rating of 120.

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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 06:31 PM
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Well i talked to the previous owner and the car wasn't at a dealership the time of the second recall so a dealer never took out the plate that locks it but thats going to change monday
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 08:22 PM
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Well i talked to the previous owner and the car wasn't at a dealership the time of the second recall so a dealer never took out the plate that locks it but thats going to change monday
Not a good idea.
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 08:29 PM
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Here's a detailed installation of the CLB. Once you see what the process is, i.e., having the actuator move to the full retracted position (unlocked) and then removing the wire harness leaves the actuator permanently in the retracted position, can never move again unless you hook it's harness back up. The CLB module will send the proper signal to the computer to tell it all is ok, start the car.

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I would not be taking my Vette to the dealer to pay them to perform B and C of the recall, which entails them removing the steering wheel and removing the plate and replacing it with another then reinstall everything.

The option is to maintain a good known battery and install a bypass. The bypass installation you do and it's all of 30 minutes time. Most of that is upside down on your back.
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 10:34 PM
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I also agree, I would not take it to the dealer to be worked on. I would just buy a CLB and put it in yourself. I have put two of them in lately and there is nothing to it if you follow the great directions offered in this forum. This is such a common problem that those who buy a vett without one should put one in immediately rather than reach the point you have with the car stranded. A CLB is very cheap insurance against this sort of issue.
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jet-Jock
Here's a detailed installation of the CLB. Once you see what the process is, i.e., having the actuator move to the full retracted position (unlocked) and then removing the wire harness leaves the actuator permanently in the retracted position, can never move again unless you hook it's harness back up. The CLB module will send the proper signal to the computer to tell it all is ok, start the car.

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I would not be taking my Vette to the dealer to pay them to perform B and C of the recall, which entails them removing the steering wheel and removing the plate and replacing it with another then reinstall everything.

The option is to maintain a good known battery and install a bypass. The bypass installation you do and it's all of 30 minutes time. Most of that is upside down on your back.
well i don't have to add anything to it or take it to a dealer its my battery 11.8 volts it has a dead cell

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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 11:26 PM
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Well I cannot say for certain the recall fix will resolve the issue. Best insurance is to make sure that battery always good.

If you change your mind, tools needed for this you can pick up singles any auto parts store. Corvettes of Houston has the bypass modules.
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