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This is the second vehicle I've had the clear protection on. It is an excellent product for what it is, but if you have a mis-hap like I did, you will be paying to have your front bumper re-cleared or re-painted anyway. If you use your car everyday, it certainly helps protect the paint, BUT... after 3-4 years, it will start to turn "cloudy looking" and beat up from the rocks hitting it and you WILL want to remove it. This is where the trouble comes in. It is not easily removed because it stretches as it peels and it is a very tough material. Once you get all of it off, there will be residue from the glue on your paint which is another hassle to remove.
If you only use the car occasionally, it may be worth it to you. There are pros and cons to this product. I like it and I don't. Good luck.





It is also not cheap to get installed unless you can do it yourself, which takes some skill to get it right.
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If you really want to protect your paint you need to buy a kit from a reputable installer/dealer. Ventureshield Ultra and Avery Nano Fusion are two good films... and Xpel makes a good film as well. I recommend the Avery for a self install if you can get it. But expect the film to cost you a lot more money.
If you peel film off of a car and it lifts the clear coat it is the sign of a poor paint job; or that the film was applied to fresh paint. If film is installed on a good paint job and the paint has cured it will not lift paint up. There are also numerous films out there and all of them are different. 3M has a very strong adhesive so I do not install it... and charge customers quiet a bit to remove it. Films such as Ventureshield, Avery, and Xpel have a good adhesive on it without being to aggressive. So if its quality paint and it is fully cured (30 days after its painted is the rule of thumb) this will not be an issue. Heat, miles driven on the car, and length of time do not really affect the films removal. I have pulled film off of a 6 year old car that had sat in the sun every day yet it looked brand new when it was removed and did not leave adhesive behind. The key to minimizing the adhesive left on the paint is using a heat source to soften the film up before removing.
This is the second vehicle I've had the clear protection on. It is an excellent product for what it is, but if you have a mis-hap like I did, you will be paying to have your front bumper re-cleared or re-painted anyway. If you use your car everyday, it certainly helps protect the paint, BUT... after 3-4 years, it will start to turn "cloudy looking" and beat up from the rocks hitting it and you WILL want to remove it. This is where the trouble comes in. It is not easily removed because it stretches as it peels and it is a very tough material. Once you get all of it off, there will be residue from the glue on your paint which is another hassle to remove.
Again there are numerous films out there. Each has its own qualities. I have been using VentureShield the longest and it has held up exceptionally well if properly maintained... i.e. not cleaning it with anything abrasive, using a good sealant/wax on the film, and simply washing it as you would normally do with your paint. Some films I have tested do not hold up; Llumar is one of those films. It looks great for 6 months and then fades quickly. That is why it is a good idea to shop around and talk to people about their films before buying and installing a product. Most installers push the film they certified with. I don't. I am always testing the new films to see which are easy to install, last over time, and have the best appearance on the vehicle. That's why I use multiple brands of film today. By the way, the "stretching as it peels and its a tough material" is why it stops rocks from damaging the car. Like I posted above clear vinyl does not stretch and will break off into little pieces as it is not designed for protection but solely for cosmetic purposes. Paint protection film has to be able to withstand a lot of damage to keep the paint protected. So with it being tough to remove shows you how tough the film is and how durable it is going to be.
If you only use the car occasionally, it may be worth it to you. There are pros and cons to this product. I like it and I don't. Good luck.
If you really want to protect your paint you need to buy a kit from a reputable installer/dealer. Ventureshield Ultra and Avery Nano Fusion are two good films... and Xpel makes a good film as well. I recommend the Avery for a self install if you can get it. But expect the film to cost you a lot more money.
Again, I'll advise what the material is when this stuff shows up!
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In addition, when I peeled the film off, the TOP layer of clearcoat w/blue paint came off, not the ENTIRE paint job. This was 3M film installed by a 3M professional.
However, most importantly, you failed to mention that the REST of the paint on the car was sun-faded. I'm glad you mentioned this also, because now I remember that I had to have the entire hood and bumper of my other car re-painted to match the part that was covered by the film for 4 years.
If a car sits in the sun or is driven for 4 years, 6 years, or any number of years for that matter, the paint under the film WILL NOT MATCH the rest of the paint on the hood or adjoining areas. Keep this in mind, because not only will you be paying for the film (in the ballpark of $1,000), you will eventually be paying for paint work (another $1,000 or more). So in essence, you are spending a lot of money TWICE: once for the film and then once again for the paint job.
It is advisable for anyone looking to use this product to talk to customers who have used it. There are pros and cons to using this film.
First, factory paint does not always mean it is a good paint job. If you ran behind a vehicle dropping 1-2" stones and did not receive any damage on your vehicle that is amazing. A 1" stone will not only chip the paint it will dent the panel it hits.... and the damage a 2" stone would do would be much worse. Now I worked on a 2004 Jaguar XJ Vanden Plas edition once. After the film was on for 24 hours I noticed a flaw in the material so I went to remove it. When I did it lifted the clear coat in a single sheet. The paint underneath it did not look right so I recommended the owner take it to the dealership and have it looked at. They did and low and behold admitted the paint job was very poor and for some reason the clear did not bond to the paint. The entire car had to be repainted... and this was a $90,000 car, not a Mitsubishi. Point being that any car can have a poor paint job on it... and if it cant take the equivalent of a bumper sticker being applied and removed then it is a poor paint job. It happens...
Second, yes 3M is a strong adhesive. I agree. But that is not the case with other films and even so it still should not lift paint.
Finally the film has a slight UV inhibitor to prevent the adhesive from yellowing... but it still allows sunlight through. I have been installing film for 9 years now and not once have I ever seen paint fade at a different rate than the rest of the car. I gave an example of a 6 year old car that sat in the sun everyday and the paint was perfect under the film once removed. The paint faded at the SAME rate the rest of the car did. Again if paint faded at a different rate the case paint protection film installers would be out of business. Why protect a car to only end up with two tone paint? And now that I think about it, if the paint were to fade at a different rate then it would be OBVIOUS while it is on the car as the film is clear. So you would see a two tone car with film on it... again that just isn't the case. Now a leather bra will cause that as it blocks the sunlight from reaching the paint... but that's ONLY if it is left on all the time.
If you would like some more information or to talk to any customers that have used it for long periods of time I will be happy to provide that to you.
By the way I have worked on hundreds of cars over the years (including replacing 3M film that had been applied to other vehicles) so I do have a little experience in this. I have honestly never seen any paint fade difference. The only difference you will notice is the paint that was under the film will be as new as the day it was put on. The paint that wasnt protected will have swirl marks in it as well as any other damage that may have occured.
Last edited by pro-tect mobile; Jul 21, 2011 at 11:08 AM.





I appreciate your input on the matter and my opinion still stands.
There are pros and cons to using this product.
I wish you luck with your business.
I appreciate your input on the matter and my opinion still stands.
There are pros and cons to using this product.
I wish you luck with your business.
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