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Old Jul 23, 2011 | 11:26 AM
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Hey guys, I'm in sort of a lull with my z06. I feel like I need to add something to really make it my own.

It currently has an air intake, software and a z06 shifter.

What's the next logical upgrade? Suspension? Headers?

It has 175,000 KM on it, so she's getting up there.
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Originally Posted by Sprayy
Hey guys, I'm in sort of a lull with my z06. I feel like I need to add something to really make it my own.

It currently has an air intake, software and a z06 shifter.

What's the next logical upgrade? Suspension? Headers?

It has 175,000 KM on it, so she's getting up there.
Depends what you're looking for. More power? Better handling?

At this point in the game, you've got a high milage car, so throwing huge sums of money at it doesn't make a whole lot sense. A used set of headers and a re-tune would be a worthwhile bang for the buck. If you're still running stock shocks or even a set with half of your mileage, a set of Bilstein sports would be a good improvement to your ride/handling. Maybe even look into a set of stainless brake lines to improve braking and pedal feel. Just my $.02
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Originally Posted by Sprayy
Hey guys, I'm in sort of a lull with my z06. I feel like I need to add something to really make it my own.

It currently has an air intake, software and a z06 shifter.

What's the next logical upgrade? Suspension? Headers?

It has 175,000 KM on it, so she's getting up there.

You can add 20% rear wheel horsepower to your Z06 by having a 4.10:1 ring and pinion installed. After running with a 4.10 gear set in my Z06 for seven years, I had it taken out last spring. BIG MISTAKE !

As soon as Motive Gear makes optional gear sets for the C6 ZR1 differential, I am going back to RPM Transmission and have then correct my mistake.

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Thanks guys, maybe a little more HP and better handling?
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I'm almost positive gears don't raise rwhp at all Jus change the drive ratio to make it seem snappier, u also lose top end speed.... Id say headers ,custom tune , if that's not enough cam it
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What's the cheapest option for headers around? And what do they add with a tune? ~35hp?
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Originally Posted by MTPZ06
At this point in the game, you've got a high milage car, so throwing huge sums of money at it doesn't make a whole lot sense. A used set of headers and a re-tune would be a worthwhile bang for the buck. If you're still running stock shocks or even a set with half of your mileage, a set of Bilstein sports would be a good improvement to your ride/handling. Maybe even look into a set of stainless brake lines to improve braking and pedal feel. Just my $.02
All of this is good advice, especially the bolded section. C6Z06 shocks are another cost-effective alternative to the Bilsteins.
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What's the cheapest option for headers around? And what do they add with a tune? ~35hp?
A used set of stainless or stainless/ceramic coated headers in the for sale section is the best deal you'll find for the money. All the well known name brands are comparable. Since you aleady have a tune, headers and a re-tune would most likley give you another 15-20 hp to the wheels max.

FYI...Texas speed has a deal on ceramic coated 1.75" headers (not including x pipe) for $449.00.

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Headers will add a noticable kick in the pants and give you more sound. You'll be like a kid at christmas.
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Thanks guys,
So if I get a set of used c6 z06 shocks and headers I can have a smile on my face for under $1000 :P

Do you HAVE to have the tune right away for new headers?
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So if I get a set of used c6 z06 shocks and headers I can have a smile on my face for under $1000 :P

Do you HAVE to have the tune right away for new headers?
I wouldn't go used on the shocks...buy new from forum memeber Gene Culley (GM Parts House) for about $240.

You will most likey throw codes on the car if you don't tune after the header install from running lean.
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I'm almost positive gears don't raise rwhp at all Jus change the drive ratio to make it seem snappier, u also lose top end speed.... Id say headers ,custom tune , if that's not enough cam it

The following two EXCEL charts are used to size trans gear sets, differential gear sets, and tire sizes in conjunction with engine torque.

The first chart shows a typical Z06 with its standard 3.42:1 final drive ratio. Please note the last column on the right:




Also notice how the Engine RPM after the Shift how the cells have turned pink. This is due to the fact that the MN12 transmission's gear spacing is too wide to keep the RPMs above the torque peak after the shift.


The next chart shows the identical trans, engine, and tires, with a change to a 4.10:1 differential gear setup. Note the increased Peak Torque at the rear wheels:





Changing final drive ratios does change the torque applied to the rear wheels. Don't rely on Chassis Dynamometers as an indication of how gear ratio changes change vehicle performance. If changine rear gear ratios didn't matter, drag racers would be racing with 2.73:1 differential gear sets, instead of the 4.88:1 + gear sets that they use.


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It doesn't sound like he's drag racing the car. If you change the gear ratio then it takes away from your max speed. Maybe he does highway cruising or likes to race around here and there from a roll etc. Well going to 4.10 gears takes that away. It also lowers your MPG too.
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It doesn't sound like he's drag racing the car. If you change the gear ratio then it takes away from your max speed. Maybe he does highway cruising or likes to race around here and there from a roll etc. Well going to 4.10 gears takes that away. It also lowers your MPG too.

If you look at the chart above for the 4.10:1 differential, you will see that if he has enough horsepower, he can achieve 220.1 mph in 6th gear. Also, he will only be turning 2,215 RPMs at 75 mph.

Highway cruising, rolling away from a stop light, 40 to 60 mph tip-ins are all vastly improved with the 4.10 ring and pinion.

And, if he can find a qualified shop, it should cost less than $1,000 to convert the differential.

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If you look at the chart above for the 4.10:1 differential, you will see that if he has enough horsepower, he can achieve 220.1 mph in 6th gear. Also, he will only be turning 2,215 RPMs at 75 mph.

Highway cruising, rolling away from a stop light, 40 to 60 mph tip-ins are all vastly improved with the 4.10 ring and pinion.

And, if he can find a qualified shop, it should cost less than $1,000 to convert the differential.

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Gears offer huge bang for the buck, but the only problem I have with them on street driven (or mostly street) cars is that first gear is already tough to hook on a hard launch with street tires unless you're running R compund tires...which is a sacrafice on wear and handling over high performance street tires like PS2's.
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Gears offer huge bang for the buck, but the only problem I have with them on street driven (or mostly street) cars is that first gear is already tough to hook on a hard launch with street tires unless you're running R compund tires...which is a sacrafice on wear and handling over high performance street tires like PS2's.

You make a good point. I drove my Z06 for 5 years with 305/30R19 Michelin PS2s on the rear and 4.10:1 gears. That's 30k + miles of driving. Once you try a 4.10 ring and pinion, you will never want to revert back to a standard ratio differential.

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You make a good point. I drove my Z06 for 5 years with 305/30R19 Michelin PS2s on the rear and 4.10:1 gears. That's 30k + miles of driving. Once you try a 4.10 ring and pinion, you will never want to revert back to a standard ratio differential.

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I'm sure it's night and day. A long long time ago, I had a 5.0 mustang and I did a 3.55 swap for the factory 2.73's for about $400. They were good for about 4 tenths/4 mph in the quarter...bets bang for the buck I ever did on that car.

I thought about 3.90's for the Z, but I have PS2's now and I can overpower them in first with the factory 3.42's. I was instead thinking about a lightweight flywheel to help with quicker revs.
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I'm sure it's night and day. A long long time ago, I had a 5.0 mustang and I did a 3.55 swap for the factory 2.73's for about $400. They were good for about 4 tenths/4 mph in the quarter...best bang for the buck I ever did on that car.

I thought about 3.90's for the Z, but I have PS2's now and I can overpower them in first with the factory 3.42's. I was instead thinking about a lightweight flywheel to help with quicker revs.

Put in the 4.10 gears! Just use your head in 1st gear and enjoy the tremendous improvement in the rest of your driving range.


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Just use your head...


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That's going to be tough.
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The dynamax headers look like a nice alternative to LG's. they have nice long primarys and stainless steel like the LG's do.
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