[Z06] C5 Z06 versus SRT8
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Some comparisons
This is the 09 GT-R vs the C5 Z06:
http://www.fastestlaps.com/compariso...z06_405hp.html
This is the 2012 GT-R vs C5 Z06:
http://www.fastestlaps.com/compariso...gt-r_2011.html
This is the 997 911 Turbo vs the C5 Z06:
http://www.fastestlaps.com/compariso...z06_405hp.html
Now a C6 Z06 vs these cars is a different story.
This is the 09 GT-R vs the C5 Z06:
http://www.fastestlaps.com/compariso...z06_405hp.html
This is the 2012 GT-R vs C5 Z06:
http://www.fastestlaps.com/compariso...gt-r_2011.html
This is the 997 911 Turbo vs the C5 Z06:
http://www.fastestlaps.com/compariso...z06_405hp.html
Now a C6 Z06 vs these cars is a different story.
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To the OP, sorry for this..^^^..I was just trying to give you some comparions.
To Hitman, did I embelish ?? Or were there muliple track times ?? Did I say it was the fastest GT-R ever ??
And I never claimed to be a "pro" driver so I'm not sure where that came from.
But its a good thing you are here to set the story straight
.
Like I said look at the link I provided, no embelishing but I guess I didn't get the memo saying "his" site was far more accurate.
Thanks....
To Hitman, did I embelish ?? Or were there muliple track times ?? Did I say it was the fastest GT-R ever ??
And I never claimed to be a "pro" driver so I'm not sure where that came from.
But its a good thing you are here to set the story straight
.Like I said look at the link I provided, no embelishing but I guess I didn't get the memo saying "his" site was far more accurate.
Thanks....
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I would recommend the C6Z if you are willing to shell out 35-40 grand though.
@LSOHOLIC: I only posted what I did so that people don't get the impression that they are going to hang or beat those cars stock for stock and then get let down. Our cars are cheap and easy to mod though which makes up for that.
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Imagine if I told the Charger forums that my 2006 RT (which ran a 13.9) will hang with an SRT after I added a cat-back, airbox, and hand-held prgrammer. People would laugh at me.
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Hell no. You would need an additional 50-75 'WHEEL' hp and tires to get it into the 12's. I was recently at Bradenton MSP and an SRT8 with a Procharger (unsure about head unit) running 8 psi was hitting bottom 12's with one 11.90's pass.
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I have plenty of friends with bone stock SRT8s on street tires who hit high 12's in their SRT8s. So I definitely know it is possible. Just like people here corrected me on Z06 times, I am pretty well informed on SRT8 times. But it doesn't really matter. I am not here to debate SRT8 times.
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Right now I am more focused on selling my Charger and then finding a perfect C5Z.
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No kidding. 99.99999999999% of the people who say don't buy an '01 because of the lower power can't drive well enough on a track to make any difference at all and would get smashed by you in your inferior POS high mileage '01 that nobody should ever buy. The only significant difference is HUD. If you want it, don't buy an '01.
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Yet you failed to mention the most important factor about your car to compare it's cornering power to the Z06. Tire model and size. I'd be damned impressed if your car could equal a Z06 in lateral g. It's possible, but you'd have to have some big sticky tires. Some of the other guys here are going over the top with talking up the Z06 when it comes to drag racing. Stock to stock, your car is only about .5 seconds behind.
No kidding. 99.99999999999% of the people who say don't buy an '01 because of the lower power can't drive well enough on a track to make any difference at all and would get smashed by you in your POS high mileage '01 that nobody should ever buy. The only significant difference is HUD. If you want it, don't buy an '01.
No kidding. 99.99999999999% of the people who say don't buy an '01 because of the lower power can't drive well enough on a track to make any difference at all and would get smashed by you in your POS high mileage '01 that nobody should ever buy. The only significant difference is HUD. If you want it, don't buy an '01.My car actually has more suspension than in that video (Xa coil-overs), and MUCH better tires (275/40-20 Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas at all 4 corners). And the Quaife LSD might help some too.
That being said, grip is only one part of handling. While my car may equal the grip of a C5Z (not saying it does, but it might...especially if the C5Z is on stock tires), it could NEVER match a C5Z on something like a slalom. I mean it wouldn't be even close. With the extra weight, the SRT8 would have a LOT of problems transitioning from side to side....and it does. There is only so much suspension can do!
There is no question that unless the SRT8 was stripped and lost 600+ lbs it just couldn't be competitive. For it's size it is a very good handling car, but the weight is just too much to ever compete with a Vette.
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It is what it is.........just add the "driver" mod.
1--11.529 @ 120.21--1.641--
2--11.581 @ 117.40--1.675--
3--11.596 @ 118.53--1.675--
4--11.5xx @ 118.xx --1.67x--
5--11.640 @ 116.19--1.628--
6--11.656 @ 117.75--1.671--
7--11.659 @ 116.97--1.645--
8--11.694 @ 116.56--1.65x--
9--11.711 @ 115.53--1.653--
10-11.756 @ 116.87--1.66x--
Nurburgring =7.56
Here is a fair comparison......
http://www.fastestlaps.com/cars/chev...te_c5_z06.html
or this one.........
http://www.fastestlaps.com/cars/chev...z06_405hp.html
Where's the hype ??
It's about what the car is capable of, NOT how much seat time one needs (AKA, grandpa with his retirement check)!!
It is what it is.........just add the "driver" mod.
1--11.529 @ 120.21--1.641--
2--11.581 @ 117.40--1.675--
3--11.596 @ 118.53--1.675--
4--11.5xx @ 118.xx --1.67x--
5--11.640 @ 116.19--1.628--
6--11.656 @ 117.75--1.671--
7--11.659 @ 116.97--1.645--
8--11.694 @ 116.56--1.65x--
9--11.711 @ 115.53--1.653--
10-11.756 @ 116.87--1.66x--
Nurburgring =7.56
Here is a fair comparison......
http://www.fastestlaps.com/cars/chev...te_c5_z06.html
or this one.........
http://www.fastestlaps.com/cars/chev...z06_405hp.html
Where's the hype ??
It's about what the car is capable of, NOT how much seat time one needs (AKA, grandpa with his retirement check)!!
Last edited by LSOHOLIC; Aug 5, 2011 at 07:18 PM.
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And CAI, and drag radials, and negative DA, and an extremely well prepped track.
Forget about all that stuff? What have you done in a stock C5 Z06?
Nurburgring =7.56
Here is a fair comparison......
http://www.fastestlaps.com/cars/chev...te_c5_z06.html
or this one.........
http://www.fastestlaps.com/cars/chev...z06_405hp.html
Here is a fair comparison......
http://www.fastestlaps.com/cars/chev...te_c5_z06.html
or this one.........
http://www.fastestlaps.com/cars/chev...z06_405hp.html
How is that a comparison at all? The two have no test on the same track.
What difference does it make what the car is capable of if you can't do it? I doubt there is one single person in this thread who could go out and set lower lap times in a 2002 Z06 than a 2001 Z06. The lap times would be the same. So why would you tell somebody not to buy an '01? Because their on paper bragging wouldn't be as potent?
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Well, where to start....
I'll admit....I'm one of "those" guys.....If I talked about my "race" history the thread would be locked. It boils down to I'm not will to put a cage in a 27K mile '04 ZO6 (for the track, 11.49 or quicker), I've been to the track several times but not stock. If your not into that "scene" you wouldn't understand (not inclined to post times, I'll send you a pm).
The comparison was for the C5Z....to other sports cars that are similar in performance. We have already established that the SRT8 is not on the same playing field.
And about the '01 debate....I've never said a word about it. Mine is an '04 but if I had to do it again I'd buy an '01. I rarely if ever use the HUD setup. I'd rather cut the weight than that fancy thing. So....not sure where you got that from.?? If someones intentions are to mod the car then an '01 would be the most logical choice, HP is easy...pick the body style you like and go fast !!
Thanks.....
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The dealers in my area aren't willing to pay anything for used cars. The one I talked to said he would only pay me wholsale for the car WITHOUT taking the low miles into account. In other words he was willing to pay $22K for a car with a Private Party KBB of over $30K! He even admitted that if he took the low mileage into account it got the wholesale value to over $25K, but he wouldn't pay that.
For instance,my 2010 GS vert books for $61k private party......I didn't pay that for it a year and a half ago brand new. And one identical to mine sold here for less than $45k this week.
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Not trying to be mean,but you can forget KBB & NADA prices. They are totally out of touch with reality these days.
For instance,my 2010 GS vert books for $61k private party......I didn't pay that for it a year and a half ago brand new. And one identical to mine sold here for less than $45k this week.
For instance,my 2010 GS vert books for $61k private party......I didn't pay that for it a year and a half ago brand new. And one identical to mine sold here for less than $45k this week.
So I think my car is priced to sell to the guy who wants a perfect SRT8 at a bargain price. That being said, I am not getting much interest based on a CraigsList ad, so I will probably need to put it up on AutoTrader.com next week.
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I agree I think it is right around 1 second difference in 0-60 and in the 1/4 mile for stock vs stock. I can't comment on the LS1 C5 times at all as I haven't researched them.
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So if I want a perfect car with under 30K miles what should I be expecting to pay? And will if feel remotely similar to the C6 Z I drove? I understand that there is a big power difference, but otherwise do they feel similar? Or is it a night and day difference?
And would the Z06 make a decent daily driver? I would only put maybe 4K miles on it a year. So while I say it is a daily driver, it won't get driven daily at all...it would just be my main transportation.
And I like the sounds of the responsiveness. That is really what I am looking for. Something like my old E30 M3, but with twice the power sounds awesome.
And would the Z06 make a decent daily driver? I would only put maybe 4K miles on it a year. So while I say it is a daily driver, it won't get driven daily at all...it would just be my main transportation.
And I like the sounds of the responsiveness. That is really what I am looking for. Something like my old E30 M3, but with twice the power sounds awesome.
