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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 07:51 PM
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Back to my new interest, My 2003 Corvette brakes, What kind of slotted and drilled rotors are above good to best, and How do the different brake pads work out ? Like 'Hawk' pads, they make different pads, but I'm looking for great braking power with low dust. Is ceramic pads the best for that purpose, Hawk or some other vendor/company ? Thank you !
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Doesn't anyone use ceramic brake pads ? How do they work on a everyday Basis ? Is it better to stick with GM or another manufacturer ? Anybody ?
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 09:48 PM
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I personally favor slotted rotors and run them on all of my 3 cars.All 3 also run Hawk HPS pads,Goodridge SS lines and Prestone Dot4 fluid.

Awesome stopping power...low dust.

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Depending on use - drilled rotors have been known to crack, especially if you plan on tracking the car (like HPDE).
I've run the Hawk HPS Plus pads, put them on for an HPDE, but crazy dust. Recently bought Hawk HPS (not plus), but yet to put them on...understand about half the dust or so of the Plus pads. Another choice thats fairly popular are Carbotech 1521s.
Most will say ceramic and performance don't go together although I have no personal experience. Plenty of threads out there if you haven't tried the search yet. Here's a few:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...at-1521-a.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...eramic-or.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...eramic-or.html
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Depending on use - drilled rotors have been known to crack, especially if you plan on tracking the car (like HPDE).
I've run the Hawk HPS Plus pads, put them on for an HPDE, but crazy dust. Recently bought Hawk HPS (not plus), but yet to put them on...understand about half the dust or so of the Plus pads. Another choice thats fairly popular are Carbotech 1521s.
Most will say ceramic and performance don't go together although I have no personal experience. Plenty of threads out there if you haven't tried the search yet. Here's a few:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...at-1521-a.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...eramic-or.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...eramic-or.html
Thank you. I was interested in whether the 'Ceramic' pads altered the stopping power of the brakes ? I want a pad that has a low dust output and wondered if Ceramic was the way to go. I'm looking into "Drilled and Slotted discs, but I want the best out there so as to advoid the rotor cracking you mentioned. Thank you !
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Originally Posted by killain
Thank you. I was interested in whether the 'Ceramic' pads altered the stopping power of the brakes ? I want a pad that has a low dust output and wondered if Ceramic was the way to go. I'm looking into "Drilled and Slotted discs, but I want the best out there so as to advoid the rotor cracking you mentioned. Thank you !
I would use Dba 4000 series rotors and the Carbotech 1521 compound for street. That is the best combo out there.
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Originally Posted by killain
Thank you. I was interested in whether the 'Ceramic' pads altered the stopping power of the brakes ? I want a pad that has a low dust output and wondered if Ceramic was the way to go. I'm looking into "Drilled and Slotted discs, but I want the best out there so as to advoid the rotor cracking you mentioned. Thank you !
Yes. Ceramic brakes will suck for stopping power and not be safe for normal daily driving. Unless your are only driving track, at track speeds, stay away from the ceramics. You won't get them hot enough to be effective. I'd suggest Hawk HP pads.

Drilled and slotted rotors look great! Slotted only won't crack. I went with these frm TPS Motorsports.



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Yes. Ceramic brakes will suck for stopping power and not be safe for normal daily driving.


I guess this is why several manufacturers use ceramic as original equipment on their vehicles. The OEM ceramics meet or exceed all federal requirements and are used on both cars and trucks.

Could you possibly have misstated? I'm not speaking of ultra high performance pads, just factory ceramics.
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Ceramic pads and drilled/slotted rotors are not acceptable for any type of track or HPDE usage. Ceramic pads will chunk aand disintegrate with high temperature usage and the D/S rotors quickly crack. Street usage is entirely another story. The GM ceramic pads offer more than adequate stopping power and are very low dust. I ran them for two years on my 2001 coupe. The GM ceramic pads are grey in color and what dust does get on the wheels does not show ( unless you have black wheels) and it washes off with just a hose. For street use any of the name aftermarket outfits - Stoptek, Baer, DBA can supply a D / S rotor that will more than stand up to any type of street use. Some are cadmium plated and are much more rust resistant, and worth the extra cost IMHO.
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FWIW. If the rotors are drilled they will eventually crack. The drilling creates a stress riser and at some point the heating and cooling cycle will fatigue the metal and a crack will occur starting at the riser and continue until the component is in pieces. Some may take a long time to fail and others may not take so long. Depends on the iron, the process, the sharpness of the drills or tools but eventually they will fail. The drilled and slotted have a great curb appeal and I like the way they look. But if you want performance I would go with solid or solid slotted. IMHO.
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Doesn't anyone use ceramic brake pads ? How do they work on a everyday Basis ? Is it better to stick with GM or another manufacturer ? Anybody ?
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