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Old Dec 10, 2011 | 05:31 PM
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hi everyone, i don't post alot as i am new to Corvette's, (been lusting over them my whole life though ) and have been searching and reading tons. still, with all the research there seems an endless supply of knowledge and ideas on here, it's amazing! i bought my first Corvette in aug of this year, a 2003 torch red vert 6 speed. when i was test driving cars i also drove a Z06 of the same vintage (same color too), it was hard to decide between the two, but i got a better deal on the vert. what my main question is, can a person get Z06 like performance from the LS1 in my vert with just bolt ons? or am i asking a little too much? i really loved both cars but the deal and driving with the top down was just too good to pass up. if i could get my vert to perform close to the Z (with a moderate investment) i could have the best of both world's.

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Simple answer is yes! Long tube headers and an intake should be first then heads and a cam will get you all the way there. Or a supercharger will put you past that point. Just check your wallet.
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Ls6 intake, exhaust, new air induction system, and a tune should put you close to a stock Z06 power.
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Originally Posted by ken'svette
Simple answer is yes! Long tube headers and an intake should be first then heads and a cam will get you all the way there. Or a supercharger will put you past that point. Just check your wallet.
The LS1 is very mod friendly and the HP can be bumped up pretty easily. Just takes the money to get past the Vette Tax.
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Originally Posted by onspeed
Ls6 intake, exhaust, new air induction system, and a tune should put you close to a stock Z06 power.

Those mods will get you 20 more horses than a stock Z06. I have those and got 425 hp at the crank. If you have an auto, put in a Z06 3.42 diff and hold on.
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Originally Posted by onspeed
Ls6 intake, exhaust, new air induction system, and a tune should put you close to a stock Z06 power.
I believe they began putting the LS6 intake on all LS engines in 02.
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Originally Posted by Lord Vetter
Those mods will get you 20 more horses than a stock Z06. I have those and got 425 hp at the crank. If you have an auto, put in a Z06 3.42 diff and hold on.
Wow, that is great news. So I can have my cake and eat it too
My car is a 6 speed so it should be 3.42 in the diff already (please correct me if I am wrong) and I believe as posted above my car has a Z06 intake as well?

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The LS6 intake was installed on all 2001-2004 LS1'S.
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Originally Posted by Lord Vetter
Those mods will get you 20 more horses than a stock Z06. I have those and got 425 hp at the crank. If you have an auto, put in a Z06 3.42 diff and hold on.
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The LS6 intake was installed on all 2001-2004 LS1'S.
Excellent!
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Ok, this looks like its going to work out just fine for my LS1 improvement plan.
What parts do you guys recommend? If I stick to name brand stuff I should be ok? So my list looks like this, CAI , long tube headers, x-over pipe with high flow cats, and a better than stock flowing muffler setup plus a good tune and I should be there. Or at least till I either get used to it or the mod bug bites me again. thanks for all the help and replies!

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Originally Posted by the duce
Ok, this looks like its going to work out just fine for my LS1 improvement plan.
What parts do you guys recommend? If I stick to name brand stuff I should be ok? So my list looks like this, CAI , long tube headers, x-over pipe with high flow cats, and a better than stock flowing muffler setup plus a good tune and I should be there. Or at least till I either get used to it or the mod bug bites me again. thanks for all the help and replies!

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From the info I found, the only difference between LS1 and LS6 from 2001 up is the cam and heads. The rest is the same and the 2001 up LS1 cam is a little better than the previous years too, so just a cam upgrade and a little work with the heads and you're there.The rest of the mods you are planning will be a bonus.
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Originally Posted by 2k2C5
I believe they began putting the LS6 intake on all LS engines in 02.
you are correct on the ls6 intake, Get a 3:42 rear gear set up then headers and cat back and a blackwing air set up you should be close to the z06.. Robert
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by robert miller
you are correct on the ls6 intake, Get a 3:42 rear gear set up then headers and cat back and a blackwing air set up you should be close to the z06.. Robert
It's a manual, he already has the 3:42 gears.
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Long tube headers and hiflow cats and minimum of C5 Z06 Titanium mufflers + DYNO Tune with all of that you will see right about 355+ RWHP - which is right around what a stock LS6 C5 Z06 puts out at the RW's

Do a Heads and Cam with the above mentioned mods and you will have an easy 440+ RWHP

But if you really want to spend the money right and get the most Dollar for HP then bolt on a A&A Corvette Supercharger set-up and a DYNO tune and you will have 525+ RWHP in stock form and it will CO$T the same if not less!

FI is the best way to go and it is safe too!

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From my knowledge I agree with Matt.

It doesn't take much to equal the Z06 in HP.

I think some folks were saying they added 40 HP to the RW with a vararam, headers and aftermarket mufflers + a tune. That's more than adding 50 HP to the crank.
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Originally Posted by 65GGvert
It's a manual, he already has the 3:42 gears.
WAS ALSO READING THE ONE ABOVE SAYING PUT IN A Z06 3:42 GEAR. bUT IF YOU HAVE THE MONEY DO LIKE MATT HAS SAID YOU WILL BE MUCH BETTER OFF.If not just do one mod at a time and have fun with it after each of them...
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Lots of good idea's, thanks! I thought about the A&A kit but the price is a little steep for me right now. But with the bolt ons I can chip away at it as the money flow allows. Plus I am not sure if I need that kind of power? I found the stock Z06 was pretty quick, maybe even quick enough to keep me happy for sometime. I guess with all things there comes a time when you get used to it and need more.

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The best thing is that you can buy all of the parts in the "C5 Parts for Sale" section, and save a ton of money.

For a total of ~$1300 I was able to buy LT headers/X-pipe, Z06 cat back, and a Blackwing intake. Installed with the help of some friends for ~$200, and add a Dyno tune for $300, and for well less than $2K I was at 352 RWHP...

Oh, don't for get to add Z06 shocks and sway bars, for ~$250, Z06 springs if you are really aggressive (I didn't do that), and it will now corner like a Z06!!! I had a base suspension, but this may not be necessary if you already have the Z51 suspension.

I did this all about three or four years ago so prices may have come down a bit since then.


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Originally Posted by roscoe118
The best thing is that you can buy all of the parts in the "C5 Parts for Sale" section, and save a ton of money.

For a total of ~$1300 I was able to buy LT headers/X-pipe, Z06 cat back, and a Blackwing intake. Installed with the help of some friends for ~$200, and add a Dyno tune for $300, and for well less than $2K I was at 352 RWHP...

Oh, don't for get to add Z06 shocks and sway bars, for ~$250, Z06 springs if you are really aggressive (I didn't do that), and it will now corner like a Z06!!! I had a base suspension, but this may not be necessary if you already have the Z51 suspension.

I did this all about three or four years ago so prices may have come down a bit since then.


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Wow, nice work. And great results! Great ideas too, thanks.

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