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Old May 23, 2012 | 08:49 PM
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I am in the market for some cross drilled rotors and ceramic pads in a package, not drilled and slotted. Any one can tell me where to get the best deal? Thanks!
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Old May 23, 2012 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by colderbythelake
I am in the market for some cross drilled rotors and ceramic pads in a package, not drilled and slotted. Any one can tell me where to get the best deal? Thanks!
I have the drilled/slotted ones from BrakeMotive. He offers a discount to forum members as well, but I could not locate drilled only. I did find a full set of drilled rotors and ceramic pads F&R for $230 on the auction site from a seller called tutuauto with a 100% feedback rating. His shipping was free to the US but he's in Ontario. His set was $230.99. Gonna be hard to beat that unless Brakemotive offers drilled only. If he does, you can probably get a full set under $200.
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Old May 23, 2012 | 09:36 PM
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I have seen them on Amazon.com pretty cheap. Do not know of the quality but might be worth checking out.
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Old May 23, 2012 | 11:08 PM
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I installed GM D/S Rotors from GM Partshouse and Hawk pads from JWMotoring,,,,,very happy!
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Old May 24, 2012 | 07:50 AM
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If you have your heart and head set on drilled rotors then go for it. I would offer, since you asked for opinion, that the drilled rotors will eventually give you problems. Drilling holes creates stress risers which will eventually result in a crack. From a performance standpoint the drilled holes give you nothing, just a cosmetic benefit. I personally love the way they look, however, the failure mode is certain. I would go with the slotted ones and forget the drilled. I would stay with OEM GM parts on this one too for lots of really good safety reasons. Good Luck.
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Old May 24, 2012 | 06:41 PM
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If you have your heart and head set on drilled rotors then go for it. I would offer, since you asked for opinion, that the drilled rotors will eventually give you problems. Drilling holes creates stress risers which will eventually result in a crack. From a performance standpoint the drilled holes give you nothing, just a cosmetic benefit. I personally love the way they look, however, the failure mode is certain. I would go with the slotted ones and forget the drilled. I would stay with OEM GM parts on this one too for lots of really good safety reasons. Good Luck.
Thanks for the advice. Just wondering if others have had similar problems with the cross drilled rotors.
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Old May 24, 2012 | 06:54 PM
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As long as the holes have a lead in radius or bevel you will not have a high stress riser. It's the sharp edge of a plain drilled hole that results in a stress riser.
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Old May 24, 2012 | 07:07 PM
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I have seen stress risers even with radiused edges due to poor machining control and technnique. In cast grey iron the matrix tends to tear rather than shear particularly if the tools or drills are dull. The history of the product as demonstrated by the large number of failures reported on this forum alone would indicate that the drilled rotors are suspect. Also, this is a SAFETY item and if it were me, I would trust the OEM who originally designed and more importantly tested the entire braking system. I love the way the drilled rotors look but I am not impressed with the functionality or the failure mode.
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Slotted only for the street for me.
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Old May 24, 2012 | 08:03 PM
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I got the package from Breakmotive for 180 to the door. Great deal, and good product,I'm very pleased. Go to thier web site and mention the forum n they will discount it for you. I've got the power stop cross drilled n slotted rotors on my 2004 F-150 . They've been on it for 6 years no problems .
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Brakemotive. Mine are cross drilled without the slots. Had them on for a year now. Fantastic! $180.00 for brakes and rotors all the way around plus free shipping. Can't beat that with a stick.
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To me drilled rotors dont look any better, since they are just drilled for looks.
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Originally Posted by Gigdy
To me drilled rotors dont look any better, since they are just drilled for looks.
Not true. They are lighter and cool faster.
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Originally Posted by Paul Wood
I have seen stress risers even with radiused edges due to poor machining control and technnique. In cast grey iron the matrix tends to tear rather than shear particularly if the tools or drills are dull. The history of the product as demonstrated by the large number of failures reported on this forum alone would indicate that the drilled rotors are suspect. Also, this is a SAFETY item and if it were me, I would trust the OEM who originally designed and more importantly tested the entire braking system. I love the way the drilled rotors look but I am not impressed with the functionality or the failure mode.
I was recently told the same thing by an official at NCM. Explanation made worlds of sense.
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Slots and cross drilled rotors allow the gas to escape between the pad and rotor. It's more than just looks.
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Originally Posted by Silverback51
Slots and cross drilled rotors allow the gas to escape between the pad and rotor. It's more than just looks.
The problem with the drilled rotors is the act of drilling, that heats up and stresses the metal causing micro fractures before the rotor is even used. These fractures get worse as the rotor is used. According to my source if the holes are in the original casting, this does not occur.
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Originally Posted by CactusCat
I have the drilled/slotted ones from BrakeMotive. He offers a discount to forum members as well, but I could not locate drilled only. I did find a full set of drilled rotors and ceramic pads F&R for $230 on the auction site from a seller called tutuauto with a 100% feedback rating. His shipping was free to the US but he's in Ontario. His set was $230.99. Gonna be hard to beat that unless Brakemotive offers drilled only. If he does, you can probably get a full set under $200.
I bought just the crossed drilled ones from them. No problem with that request.
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I've had a set of Baer cross drilled and slotted on my '01 for several years and have had no problems.
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Originally Posted by Silverbullet00
I installed GM D/S Rotors from GM Partshouse and Hawk pads from JWMotoring,,,,,very happy!
Thanks Kent
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