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Redline water wetter is basically an additive to help reduce temperatures. It doesn't really do to much when mixed with coolant actually, it's meant to work with water only. It was developed for racers. For example when I track my motorcycle we have to run water only, as coolant contains propylene glycol. Notice the texture when you touch coolant it feels slippery? That's the propylene glycol. So mixing water with water wetter allows the motor to run as if it had coolant, but if someone crashes the track doesn't get affected. Royal purple makes an additive that works with coolant to reduce temps by 10 - 15 degrees.
Most coolant has ethylene glycol, not propylene glycol. Big difference from a toxicity standpoint. EG is toxic in small doses, I think something like half an oz for an average adult. PG on the other hand is sometimes used as a food additive.
There are coolants that are branded "non-toxic" which are propylene glycol based. I think PEAK makes one, as well as Amsoil.
Water Wetter on the other hand is based on derivatives of propylene glycol. I've never used it, nor do I really plan to, just because I don't think it has adequate corrosion inhibitors, just based on some research I did a while back regarding its composition. And I'm pretty sure the temperature reduction is just because you're running like 95% water when using it, as opposed to the typical 50/50 or 60/40 mix that you use when using conventional coolant.
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Originally Posted by onspeed
Most coolant has ethylene glycol, not propylene glycol. Big difference from a toxicity standpoint. EG is toxic in small doses, I think something like half an oz for an average adult. PG on the other hand is sometimes used as a food additive.
There are coolants that are branded "non-toxic" which are propylene glycol based. I think PEAK makes one, as well as Amsoil.
Water Wetter on the other hand is based on derivatives of propylene glycol. I've never used it, nor do I really plan to, just because I don't think it has adequate corrosion inhibitors, just based on some research I did a while back regarding its composition. And I'm pretty sure the temperature reduction is just because you're running like 95% water when using it, as opposed to the typical 50/50 or 60/40 mix that you use when using conventional coolant.
Just my .02
Water wetter definitely does not have any corrosion inhibitors. If I'm not mistaken this is stressed on the packaging. I'm not a chemist by any means, but I can say when using it with water has worked for me on my motorcycle.
Water wetter definitely does not have any corrosion inhibitors. If I'm not mistaken this is stressed on the packaging. I'm not a chemist by any means, but I can say when using it with water has worked for me on my motorcycle.
Its corrosion resistant properties are the reason why it is recommended in a track bike that has to run straight water in the cooling system. In fact the bottle I have in my garage says
Rust and corrosion protection allows for use of straight water in racing or reduced antifreeze levels in warm climates
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Thanks baxom, I stand corrected. I was thinking of another product when I wrote that. Yes it does have inhibitors, just not to be used as regular protection during the winter months...to early in the morning, lol.
Is it OK to use "Prestone Dex-Cool Approved Antifreeze/Coolant"?
It doesn't say it is "Dex-Cool", just "Dex-Cool Approved", but I guess that's because Dex-Cool is a GM registered trademark. I just want to be on the safe side
Another couple of questions: which brand do you guys use and how do you usually mix it, 50%-50% or 70%-30%?
Thanks baxom, I stand corrected. I was thinking of another product when I wrote that. Yes it does have inhibitors, just not to be used as regular protection during the winter months...to early in the morning, lol.
MSDS for it shows 4-10% sodium molybdate, which I believe is commonly used as a corrosion inhibitor. But keep in mind this is 4-10% of the 12oz that's said to be suitable for a standard 3-5 gallon cooling system.
Originally Posted by GCG
Is it OK to use "Prestone Dex-Cool Approved Antifreeze/Coolant"?
It doesn't say it is "Dex-Cool", just "Dex-Cool Approved", but I guess that's because Dex-Cool is a GM registered trademark. I just want to be on the safe side
Another couple of questions: which brand do you guys use and how do you usually mix it, 50%-50% or 70%-30%?
That's Dex-Cool. It has been approved by GM to be licensed as a Dex-Cool product.
I run a 70/30 water/antifreeze here in TX. Provides more than enough protection from freezing temperatures.