Z06 Pack? Before 2001
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Z06 Pack? Before 2001
Hello, im going to buy my first corvette. I have seen some sellers are telling 1998 years C5's with a Z06 405 HP logo and telling that its original Z06 Pack(not z06 car like 2001 but its an extension pack sold from factory).
Its not Z06 model, but they are telling its original 405 HP from factory with Z06 rims, 405 hp upgrade,etc.
Is that correct? I didnt find any information on the internet about this. Its just some sellers talking about it.
Hope i can find some answers and decide to buy my first C5.
Its not Z06 model, but they are telling its original 405 HP from factory with Z06 rims, 405 hp upgrade,etc.
Is that correct? I didnt find any information on the internet about this. Its just some sellers talking about it.
Hope i can find some answers and decide to buy my first C5.
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there was no z06 prior to 2001. Nor was the 405hp engine available prior to 2001. The seller is either very stupid, or pulling a fast one.
If it has in fact been swapped with a LS6 engine, you can sorta tell by looking at the casting number on the heads. It should say "243" on the passenger head near the front corner.
For help on identifying the car itself by the VIN here's some info.
The 7th digit of the VIN is the year code as follows:
1997 V
1998 W
1999 X
2000 Y
2001 1
2002 2
2003 3
2004 4
The 8th digit is the engine code as follows:
G - LS1 (350hp)
S - LS6 (405hp)
If it has in fact been swapped with a LS6 engine, you can sorta tell by looking at the casting number on the heads. It should say "243" on the passenger head near the front corner.
For help on identifying the car itself by the VIN here's some info.
The 7th digit of the VIN is the year code as follows:
1997 V
1998 W
1999 X
2000 Y
2001 1
2002 2
2003 3
2004 4
The 8th digit is the engine code as follows:
G - LS1 (350hp)
S - LS6 (405hp)
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St. Jude Donor '11
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This would not be the first time a Corvette was represented to be something it is not. One correction from the other post, is the LS6 engine in 2001 was rated at 385 hp the 405 hp was brought out in 2002. the 8th digit in the VIN indicates the LS engine type, not the HP rating.
I ran in to a guy at a weekly cruise in that had a 2005 C6 that had a retractable hardtop and he swore it was a factory option.
I ran in to a guy at a weekly cruise in that had a 2005 C6 that had a retractable hardtop and he swore it was a factory option.
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Thanks for the answers. I really appreciate.
I have another question; i have read lots about z51 package and some says its closer to Z06. So, im going to pay extra $7k for z51 car. Which is manuel 6 speed and Z51 package.
Should i go with Z51 coupe and pay extra $7k or choose convertible. I mean does performance gain from z51 worth for replacing convertible to coupe and pay more?
I have another question; i have read lots about z51 package and some says its closer to Z06. So, im going to pay extra $7k for z51 car. Which is manuel 6 speed and Z51 package.
Should i go with Z51 coupe and pay extra $7k or choose convertible. I mean does performance gain from z51 worth for replacing convertible to coupe and pay more?
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St. Jude Donor '11
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The Z51 package was a more aggressive suspension package for the C5, but not as harsh as the suspension package on the Z06.
Now are you saying that you are looking at a C5 and it has a Z51 package and they want $7K more then one with the Base suspension. If so, I would simply tell them to go pound sand. That is if that is the only difference in the cars. Also the Z51 package/option was available in both coupe and convertible.
Now are you saying that you are looking at a C5 and it has a Z51 package and they want $7K more then one with the Base suspension. If so, I would simply tell them to go pound sand. That is if that is the only difference in the cars. Also the Z51 package/option was available in both coupe and convertible.
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it all depends on what you want to do with the car. If you want to just cruise around and look good, then convertible. If you like a car with a tighter feel, maybe a little more handling, then the coupe. Besides, you can still take the targa top off of the coupe for that open air feeling (if it's a coupe and not a fixed roof coupe)
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Doesnt following extras come with 2000 years z51 c5? Doesnt worth it? (by the way 7k more for the z51 car also is in 35.000km so not just for z51 package actually)
Originally Posted by blkc6z51
Here's what you get with the z51.
Z51 Performance Package,
performance-oriented package for
the Gymkhana/Autocross
enthusiast; includes extra cooling,
stiffer springs and stabilizer bars,
specific shock absorbers, larger
brakes with cross-drilled rotors,
6-speed manual
Originally Posted by blkc6z51
Here's what you get with the z51.
Z51 Performance Package,
performance-oriented package for
the Gymkhana/Autocross
enthusiast; includes extra cooling,
stiffer springs and stabilizer bars,
specific shock absorbers, larger
brakes with cross-drilled rotors,
6-speed manual
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Doesnt following extras come with 2000 years z51 c5? Doesnt worth it? (by the way 7k more for the z51 car also is in 35.000km so not just for z51 package actually)
Originally Posted by blkc6z51
Here's what you get with the z51.
Z51 Performance Package,
performance-oriented package for
the Gymkhana/Autocross
enthusiast; includes extra cooling,
stiffer springs and stabilizer bars,
specific shock absorbers, larger
brakes with cross-drilled rotors,
6-speed manual
Originally Posted by blkc6z51
Here's what you get with the z51.
Z51 Performance Package,
performance-oriented package for
the Gymkhana/Autocross
enthusiast; includes extra cooling,
stiffer springs and stabilizer bars,
specific shock absorbers, larger
brakes with cross-drilled rotors,
6-speed manual
I think the seller has his C5 Z51 confused with the C4 and C6 versions of the Z51
Last edited by BWF07; Jun 6, 2012 at 01:56 PM. Reason: Add info
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Sorry, its 2001. Does it have?
Could some tell me that whats the logo on the right side of the car:
http://www.sahibinden.com/ilan/vasit...87637865/detay
Could some tell me that whats the logo on the right side of the car:
http://www.sahibinden.com/ilan/vasit...87637865/detay
Last edited by bondx; Jun 6, 2012 at 02:02 PM.
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I have no idea what that is on the side, but it is not factory and that is just a C5 2001 coupe. It has after market wheels as well as an aftermarket hood. Someone has installed the Z06 rear brake ducts, which is a common add on on C5 coupes and convertibles.
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If i want convertible, does getting a c5 with manuel transmission worth to sacrifice convertible?
I guess 6 speed doesnt worth to sacrifice convertible if power is not much different. Am i right? Should i got with automatic convertible if there is no z06's for sale here?
I guess 6 speed doesnt worth to sacrifice convertible if power is not much different. Am i right? Should i got with automatic convertible if there is no z06's for sale here?
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Hey Bondx, where are you from? Are you in Canada or Europe somewhere?
Just curious because I saw the mileage was measured in KM's, and didn't know if there was some crazy export option I didn't know about.
Just curious because I saw the mileage was measured in KM's, and didn't know if there was some crazy export option I didn't know about.
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Hello, im going to buy my first corvette. I have seen some sellers are telling 1998 years C5's with a Z06 405 HP logo and telling that its original Z06 Pack(not z06 car like 2001 but its an extension pack sold from factory).
Its not Z06 model, but they are telling its original 405 HP from factory with Z06 rims, 405 hp upgrade,etc.
Is that correct? I didnt find any information on the internet about this. Its just some sellers talking about it.
Hope i can find some answers and decide to buy my first C5.
Its not Z06 model, but they are telling its original 405 HP from factory with Z06 rims, 405 hp upgrade,etc.
Is that correct? I didnt find any information on the internet about this. Its just some sellers talking about it.
Hope i can find some answers and decide to buy my first C5.
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The car in the ad also appears to have aftermarket HID headlights. The low beams are projector lenses.
The only "extra cooling" any C5 with RPO code Z51 had was the power steering cooler which has a heavier-duty unit with cooling fins, so maybe that's what they are referring to.
AAMOF, anyone curious about a Z51 option on any C5 only has to pop the hood and see if the PS cooler is the unit I mentioned above.
In this diagram:
1. #11 is the standard cooler for non-Z51 cars.
2. #13 is the HD cooler used in all Z51 cars.
Z51 was standard equipment on ALL FRCs and Z06s and optional on all the rest.
There are of course other differences between Z51 cars and non-Z51 cars as has been pointed out, but this difference is related to the PS cooler.