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I used to have the older Halltech CobraCF (carbon fiber) on my '99 C5.
Apparently this setup won't work on the Z06 so I'm in the market for a new intake.
Since I've been out of the market for a while, what is the best intake around now? I want cold air, so it seems like the usual suspects (Vortech, Halltech Sidewinder, K&N) are still around.
Again, I want cold air, and I'd really like the best bang for the buck.
Looking at the poll below -- I notice there is a big difference between the Halltech T1 and the Vortex which I would like to get more detail on.
The old Halltech TRIC used to go under the shroud and have the filter under the car drawing cold air. The current Halltech does not -- it draws cold air from inside the compartment thanks to the Z06 air screens -- so I don't see a difference between that and the Blackwing, honestly.
The Vortex doesn't take any air from inside the cabin -- it only takes air from underneath the car -- like the old Halltech TRIC.
So, here's the Million Dollar question -- which is the better way to go? Taking air directly from under the car and foregoing the screens, or taking air from under the hood but taking advantage of the screens?
I guess now I just don't know the advantage between the two? The Halltech seems very similar to what Chevy is currently doing. Sounds like the cutting a hole in the top of the Vortex box and taking advantage of both would be the best of both worlds...
If you don't mind cutting your shroud, which is easy and very straight forward with the template provided. You will be pleasantly surprised with the performance of the Vortex Rammer. I had a T-1 and sold it, I was not happy with the results I was getting. The Vortex Rocks! The VaraRam is also pretty cool!
I like the Vortex, but also had really good experience with the old Halltech TRIC I had too.
The real question is that there is a SERIOUS difference in design philosopy here -- one uses the Z06 cold air screens for air similar to factory (T1), and the other FOREGOES the cold air and only sucks air from the bottom (Vortex).
I got 16 plus rwhp from my Sidewinder on my 02' Z06, I am waiting on a Vararam that will be installed next week, after testing I will keep the best performer. :)
I got 16 plus rwhp from my Sidewinder on my 02' Z06, I am waiting on a Vararam that will be installed next week, after testing I will keep the best performer. :)
The problem I had with the T-1 was it would suffer under heat, the intake air temperature was signifigantly higher than ambient using autotap to record. The second issue I have with the product is try to get 3 back to back dyno runs without it dropping off in hp. I have a dyno run with 3 back to back runs soaking hot after an hour drive with the Vortex Rammer with little deviation between runs.
I think the VaraRam produces the best "real" world preformance.(when the car is runing down the road or track) As far as adapting an older halltech to the 01+ I belive it is possible by changeing the couplers to the new larger size, check with halltech if the newer couplers are available, it would probably be less expencive than a compleat new system. Ric
I spoke with Halltech and apparently because the MAF and Throttle Body are larger than before, the old pipes won't fit even with new fittings. Sucks, I know...
The thing that makes me worried about this is that now the rest of the engine isn't cooled by the open screens on the Z.
Maybe I'm a worry-wart, but it seems to me that taking a Vortex Rammer, cutting a small hole in the top portion, would give me the best of both worlds...
The thing that makes me worried about this is that now the rest of the engine isn't cooled by the open screens on the Z.
Maybe I'm a worry-wart, but it seems to me that taking a Vortex Rammer, cutting a small hole in the top portion, would give me the best of both worlds...
:yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: I think so also. It was very easy to install!
RG - since you're a dealer for all but the Halltech -- what's your opinion? Should you go total bottom breather and foregoe the air screens, or get something that sits on top of the shroud but takes advantage of the cold air?
RG - since you're a dealer for all but the Halltech -- what's your opinion? Should you go total bottom breather and foregoe the air screens, or get something that sits on top of the shroud but takes advantage of the cold air?
Cold air rules.:) Vortex or VaraRam. :):):)
For an easy to install unit, the Blackwing. :)
For me, on the next one for me, a Black Z:), it will be the VaraRam, right now, on the Yellow Coupe, it's been a Vortex, for years. Works great...and I don't worry about water.
Don't forget, think about the MAFT for an 02 Z to keep a/f ratios in line better to maximize gains with most intakes.
Give me a shout and we can talk more if you'd like.
Which ones are most likely to suck water into the engine?
thanks,
Mike
I guess it would be whichever one a person swims with?;) The stock box will allow water to pass as well. I don't think any of them would suck water up. Now, being submerged in a gaping puddle that one doesn't know the depth of, that's another story.
I've had Vortex on my car for almost 3 years and have driven in the heaviest of rains without a hitch. I will say I don't swim with it though.:)
Corellian Corvette, As you can easily tell, owners tend to favor what they bought and the methods of testing which intake "produces the most additional power" are far from precise.
Just one man's opinion....
What I learned on my 01 was that cold air rules. Which cold-air intake you choose matters less. I chose the Halltech Tric for my 01. The car ran 117.4 trap on its first day at the track. Later it ran 118.1. I liked it. And it consistently posted traps one or two mph faster than other Z06s with other after-market intakes on the tracks I ran on. Other people running different intakes (not Tric) have had similar experiences on their tracks.
So choose a Tric, Vortex Rammer, or VaraRam...probably doesn't matter which, so long as it sucks cold air.
As for 02s, mine still is stock. But the fastest run in an 02 with just an intake and drag radials belongs to Steve Row (11.79). He runs a Vortex Rammer and did that run in 1700 DA air. No one has managed that (yet) with a VaraRam. So, whatever else anyone may tell you about which intake is "best," take whichever cold air intake you favor and understand that the real-world measured differences that separate it from other cold-air intakes are not very significant.
I had the Halltech TRIC on my '99 coupe and was very happy with it. The design at the time made cold-air the only way to go.
I was a bit more cautious this time around because of the new design of the Z allowing some cold air in.
Anyway, FWIW, I think I'm going to go with the Vortex, even though I had a good experience with the Halltech prodcut before.
Halltech doesn't have a bottom breather anymore, and I don't want to use the Veraram because it appears that the Z gets a bit hotter than my old '99, and I don't want to block those scoops from drawing air into the engine compartment. Anyway, Vortex appears to be the way to go, for me anyway.