Notices
C5 General General C5 Corvette and C5 Z06 Discussion not covered in Tech

Headlight Help.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 03:33 PM
  #1  
UM Rebel's Avatar
UM Rebel
Thread Starter
Drifting
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,517
Likes: 159
From: Lafayette Louisiana
Default Headlight Help.

Started yesterday. Headlights go up and down just fine except when they go down there is a kind of grinding sound from the drivers side light for a few seconds after the lights close. Any ideas of what's going on? Thanks for any help and advice.
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 03:43 PM
  #2  
darkstar.c5's Avatar
darkstar.c5
Pro
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 526
Likes: 0
From: bowie md
Default

Originally Posted by UM Rebel
Started yesterday. Headlights go up and down just fine except when they go down there is a kind of grinding sound from the drivers side light for a few seconds after the lights close. Any ideas of what's going on? Thanks for any help and advice.
its a common issue with our cars.. there is a replacement brass gear you can get and swap it out.. grinding all gone. do a search, or maybe someone more helpful than I will provide it for you....

i replaced mine a couple years ago for about $90... i went ahead and did both headlights.
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 03:45 PM
  #3  
wbrands's Avatar
wbrands
Pro
Supporting Lifetime
10 Year Member
Veteran: Air Force
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 565
Likes: 143
From: Bedford VA
Default

The gear in your headlight motor has gone bad. If it is a 1999 or earlier it is easy repair as the motor assembly has a cover plate held on by screws. If it is a later model, it is a little more involved but still easily doable. Search the forums here, lot of good how-to's or try this post:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...orialized.html
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 03:52 PM
  #4  
alxltd1's Avatar
alxltd1
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,300
Likes: 115
From: Odessa FL
St. Jude Donor '10-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16-'17
Default

sent you a PM
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 04:06 PM
  #5  
UM Rebel's Avatar
UM Rebel
Thread Starter
Drifting
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,517
Likes: 159
From: Lafayette Louisiana
Default

Thanks for the help, guys! This forum always has the answers. I'll be ordering some parts.
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 05:36 PM
  #6  
UM Rebel's Avatar
UM Rebel
Thread Starter
Drifting
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,517
Likes: 159
From: Lafayette Louisiana
Default

Believe or not Autozone had part in stock. I guess because it also fits Firebird and Saturn.

Dorman/Headlight Motor Gear
For your 2004 Chevrolet Corvette 5.7L SFI 8cyl Price: $15.99
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 05:39 PM
  #7  
Mr.Bill's Avatar
Mr.Bill
Race Director
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 18,681
Likes: 47
From: Reno is so close to Hell you can see Sparks , State Of Confusion
St. Jude Donor '12-'13-'14
Default

Originally Posted by UM Rebel
Believe or not Autozone had part in stock. I guess because it also fits Firebird and Saturn.

Dorman/Headlight Motor Gear
For your 2004 Chevrolet Corvette 5.7L SFI 8cyl Price: $15.99
That is a plastic and they don't last, Best to replace it with a brass gear for the work involved.

http://rodneydickman.com/catalog/pro...products_id=92
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 05:40 PM
  #8  
darkstar.c5's Avatar
darkstar.c5
Pro
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 526
Likes: 0
From: bowie md
Default

Originally Posted by Mr.Bill
That is a plastic and they don't last, Best to replace it with a brass gear for the work involved.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every Model vs Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

10 Things C8 Corvette Owners Hate (But Won't Tell You)

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

10 Best Corvettes Coming to Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-7

Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Grand Sport & Grand Sport X Launch Alongside All-New 535hp LS6 V8!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

5 Reasons Bad Drivers Crash & 5 Ways to Avoid a Costly Mistake!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 06:01 PM
  #9  
UM Rebel's Avatar
UM Rebel
Thread Starter
Drifting
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,517
Likes: 159
From: Lafayette Louisiana
Default

Worried about the possible long term effect of the brass gear on the worm gear.
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 06:08 PM
  #10  
Mr.Bill's Avatar
Mr.Bill
Race Director
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 18,681
Likes: 47
From: Reno is so close to Hell you can see Sparks , State Of Confusion
St. Jude Donor '12-'13-'14
Default

Originally Posted by UM Rebel
Worried about the possible long term effect of the brass gear on the worm gear.
I haven't heard of anyone having an issue with a brass gears, Only with the plastic gears, I put 2 brass gears in my TA over 6 years ago and it is the same setup as the vette and they are still going strong. The worm gear isn't plastic.
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 06:28 PM
  #11  
darkstar.c5's Avatar
darkstar.c5
Pro
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 526
Likes: 0
From: bowie md
Default

Originally Posted by Mr.Bill
I haven't heard of anyone having an issue with a brass gears, Only with the plastic gears, I put 2 brass gears in my TA over 6 years ago and it is the same setup as the vette and they are still going strong. The worm gear isn't plastic.
and as long as you lube it up good, there should be no problems.
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 08:15 PM
  #12  
UM Rebel's Avatar
UM Rebel
Thread Starter
Drifting
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,517
Likes: 159
From: Lafayette Louisiana
Default

Took y'all advice. Ordered the brass gear kit x 2. Thanks!
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 08:55 PM
  #13  
VETJAZZ's Avatar
VETJAZZ
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 10,742
Likes: 211
From: Marana, Arizona
Default

Here are a couple "how to" threads. Good luck.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...orialized.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...placement.html
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2013 | 09:39 PM
  #14  
Plasticman's Avatar
Plasticman
Race Director
Veteran: Navy
25 Year Member
Top Answer: 3
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 10,336
Likes: 663
From: Beverly Hills (Pine Ridge) Florida
Default

Just going through this & I think I can see where the real problem lies (in my case):

The motor on the later C5's (I don't know about the earlier version) is held to a plastic gear box via 4 metal tabs. My driver's side headlight began to "stick" and would not raise electrically. If I turned the manual **** one turn (to loosen it), it then would electrically raise when the switch was turned on. At the urging of a fellow forum member, I got the brass gear kit, and took it apart today. Low and behold, the instructions state also to tighten up the tabs that retain the motor to the plastic gear box. My gear definately was jamming when it came to a stop, and I can see from the loose motor / gear box fit that the gears were barely making contact (the motor worm gear would move away from the plastic gear due to the force of stopping and had minimal gear tooth engagement). This loosness (of the motor / gear box) is probably the real cause of the plastic gear stripping that most owners see.

In my case (besides replacing the gear with the brass gear), I tighened the 4 tabs, but also added a high strength epoxy to the motor / gear box tabs & interface area (& will paint it semi-gloss black to hide the epoxy).

My passenger side headlight is working fine (for now), but I tested it for the motor / gear box looseness (manual **** must be turned a turn or so to relieve the pressure off the gears), and see it is loose as well. I will just tighten up those motor tabs, and then epoxy that side also.

Hope this helps,
Plasticman
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2013 | 10:24 AM
  #15  
UM Rebel's Avatar
UM Rebel
Thread Starter
Drifting
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,517
Likes: 159
From: Lafayette Louisiana
Default

Thanks, Plasticman. I will check that when I get into it.
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2013 | 02:49 PM
  #16  
MG RED 99's Avatar
MG RED 99
Drifting
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,932
Likes: 4
From: Warrenville Il
Default

Sent you a pm.

Also just an FYI. As with any project that involves disassembly. Use a digital camera and take numerous pics before and while you disassemble so that you can reassemble correctly. There are some washers inside the gear housing that must be put back the same way. Having pics while doing this for memories sake will be worth it so that you don't have any problems later. Many people mess this up and things won't work right. It's a very easy job to do you just have to pay attention to what your doing and a picture is always a guarantee when you have any doubts. Good luck and defintely buy a brass gear or you will be doing it again in a few years.

Also another fyi is do not open and close your headlights while at higher speed. The added force of sudden air pressure puts added strain on the gears and motor.
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2013 | 01:14 AM
  #17  
UM Rebel's Avatar
UM Rebel
Thread Starter
Drifting
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,517
Likes: 159
From: Lafayette Louisiana
Default

All done! Lights pop up and down smooth as new. Thanks for all y'alls help and advice. Plasticman, the motor housing to gearbox was indeed loose, especially of the failed side. Plastic gear had a couple of missing teeth. I restaked the tabs to tighten and took your advice to reinforce with high strength epoxy.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Headlight Help.





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:33 AM.

story-0
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-1
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every Model vs Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-20 17:58:41


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE
story-3
5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

Slideshow: 5 most and least popular Corvette model years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 13:25:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette buyer's guide

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-17 16:41:08


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things C8 Corvette Owners Hate (But Won't Tell You)

Slideshow: 10 things C8 Corvette owners hate, but won't tell you.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-01 18:36:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Best Corvettes Coming to Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2026!

Slideshow: Should you add one of these incredible Corvettes to your garage?

By Brett Foote | 2026-04-01 18:14:05


VIEW MORE
story-7
Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

Slideshow: Every Corvette Grand Sport explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-26 07:13:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
Grand Sport & Grand Sport X Launch Alongside All-New 535hp LS6 V8!

Slideshow: Breaking down the 2027 Grand Sport, Grand Sport X, Stingray, and LS6 V8.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-03-26 13:48:45


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Reasons Bad Drivers Crash & 5 Ways to Avoid a Costly Mistake!

Slideshow: 5 reasons bad drivers crash sports cars & 5 ways to avoid a costly shame!

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-25 16:32:55


VIEW MORE