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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 10:38 PM
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I usually have my 2002 C5 covered under my carport at night but decided to leave it off tonight to do some work on it tomorrow. I walked out to let the dog out and went over to make sure I had locked it and after using the fob to lock it I noticed a faint glare inside. On further inspection I could tell that the light was coming from inside the glove box. What the he**!? First off, why would anyone need a light on once you have LOCKED the car,especially the GB light? Is this preprogrammed in the computer?
I put the dog in and walked back outside to see if it was still on(about 3 minutes) and it apparently went out on it's own. Has anyone else noticed this phenomena and can it be programmed NOT to come on short of removing the bulb? Just thought this was a little wierd.
I love my car though regardless of how wierd it gets
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The glove box light should go off when you close the glove box. If it doesn't you need to adjust the switch or door. It's not exactly on a timer, but will eventually time out and go off as part of the battery protection circuit. It should not stay on anytime the glove box is closed.
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Originally Posted by 65GGvert
The glove box light should go off when you close the glove box. If it doesn't you need to adjust the switch or door. It's not exactly on a timer, but will eventually time out and go off as part of the battery protection circuit. It should not stay on anytime the glove box is closed.
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Good luck with the adjustment.
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Old Jul 19, 2013 | 10:25 AM
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You sure it didn't do out after the battery died?
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Old Jul 19, 2013 | 03:35 PM
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Thanks for the replies--I keep it on a battery tender so a dead battery is hopefully not going to be a problem. I'm going to adjust it and keep an eye on it for a while.
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Originally Posted by 65GGvert
The glove box light should go off when you close the glove box. If it doesn't you need to adjust the switch or door. It's not exactly on a timer, but will eventually time out and go off as part of the battery protection circuit. It should not stay on anytime the glove box is closed.
I agree the switch needs adjusting, but actually that light is on a timer, along with all the rest of the interior lighting. The timing is done by a "Monitored Load" circuit in the BCM and starts timing when the key gets removed (or turned to off). IIRC, it "times-out" after about 15-20 minutes or so.
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I agree the switch needs adjusting, but actually that light is on a timer, along with all the rest of the interior lighting. The timing is done by a "Monitored Load" circuit in the BCM and starts timing when the key gets removed (or turned to off). IIRC, it "times-out" after about 15-20 minutes or so.
I accidently left my interior lights on last night. This morning the battery was completely dead. So dead that O'reilly's replaced it under warranty. The battery was 7 months old and never failed previously. I thought it should have timed out.
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Originally Posted by OneCylinder
I accidently left my interior lights on last night. This morning the battery was completely dead. So dead that O'reilly's replaced it under warranty. The battery was 7 months old and never failed previously. I thought it should have timed out.
And I have personally left my interior lights on (with doors open) without the key "on" for several minutes while working on something inside my car and had them all shut off and had to reach over to turn the key "on" then back off, to get them to re-light.

There is a Monitored Load relay and fuse in the circuit as well.

There is a description of the "Inadvertent Load Control" function not only in the FSM, but in the OM as well. In my particular OM it's on pg 2-54.

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I added some decals to the interior today and while I was at it I timed how long it took for the GB light to go out on it's own. Right at 8 minutes. I noticed that the door was hanging out when latched just enough to not engage the small plunger to cut the light off so I did what someone else in the forum suggested--I velcroed a small piece of plastic about an inch square in the spot where the plunger hits and ta-da, no more light when I shut the door. I've yet to find a problem that I can't find a solution to on this forum.. You guys rock!
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Originally Posted by lonerider2002
I added some decals to the interior today and while I was at it I timed how long it took for the GB light to go out on it's own. Right at 8 minutes. I noticed that the door was hanging out when latched just enough to not engage the small plunger to cut the light off so I did what someone else in the forum suggested--I velcroed a small piece of plastic about an inch square in the spot where the plunger hits and ta-da, no more light when I shut the door. I've yet to find a problem that I can't find a solution to on this forum.. You guys rock!
That's one easy fix for the glovebox door switch.

I fixed mine by using one of those small stick-on rubber bumper "feet" you can buy at Office Depot (the flat ones, not the round "bump" shaped ones). They're about 7/16" in diameter and maybe 1/8" I think. Works like a charm.
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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
It's referred to as "Battery Run Down Protection" im the owners manual for my 04 and it's VERY briefly described in my OM on page 3-18. Not nearly enough detail to answer questions about it's operation.

I suspect there is a better description in the FSM but damned if I can find it!!
This from my '99 OM:

Inadvertent Load Control

You vehicle has a feature to help prevent you from draining the battery in case the underhood lamp, vanity mirror lamps, cargo lamps, reading lamps, console or glove box lamps are accidentally left on. If you leave any of these lamps on, they will automatically time out after 15 minutes. To reset it, all of the above lamps must be turned off or the ignition key must be in ON.
My FSM has this info in Section 8 under "Lighting", specifically pages 8-240 and 241 where it explains how the Inadvertent Load Control function works for each of the specified lights (mentioned above) in question. Rather than having just one descriptive phrase or paragraph, it describes its function with EACH of the affected lights.

For example, for the glovebox light:

"I/P Compartment Lamp (Glovebox)
Voltage is supplied to the I/P Compartment lamp from CKT 640. CKT 640 receives battery voltage when the MONITORED LD Micro Relay #43 has closed its contact switch. The opening and closing of the MONITORED LD Micro Relay #43 is controlled by the BCM through CKT 1393. The BCM will ground CKT 1393 under normal operating conditions and energize the relay which in turn energizes CKT 640. Battery voltage is then supplied to the I/P Compartment Lamp and it becomes functional. The BCM will monitor CKT 640 at the BCM connector C2 terminal C4 for an inadvertent load. In the event that the I/P Compartment Lamp is inadvertently left ON, the BCM will remove the ground from CKT 1393 de-energizing the MONITORED LD Micro Relay #43 and removing battery voltage from CKT 640. This function is used to help prevent the battery from losing voltage over a period of time in the case of a load being left ON. The I/P Compartment Lamp is grounded by CKT 150 through Splice Pack #202 to G202."
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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
........Neither their Table of Contents nor the Index gives any clues as to where to look. Lighting systems in my FSM is about 170 pages long and it's pretty much a flip the pages to find anything.
Hey, I hear ya on the "flip the pages" Even in my '99 FSM, neither the terms "Inadvertent Load Control" or "Monitored Load" appear in the index in the back of each volume. I just remember having read it in the past when doing some work on my own car, but today I couldn't recall if it was in "Lighting" or "Electrical" so I had to dig it out and look.
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