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Old Dec 15, 2013 | 11:37 PM
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I just picked up my car this weekend, got her tuned and addressed a few issues.

I was thinking the TC was inactive, even though the active handling button cycles on/off/comp just find, dash lights as it's supposed to.

But the car will easily spin through 3rd gear.

I assumed the TC was inop, but once i bumped the limiter in 1st and shifted quick, the TC Active light came on the dic.

Is this normal? I've never had a TC system that allows so much straight line wheelspin. I havent had a chance to play with it in the turns.

Is this just how they are?
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Old Dec 15, 2013 | 11:46 PM
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Stock or no? Mine is pushing 424rwhp and I can light 3rd on a fast shift in Competition Mode, but the Traction Control system will cut power to prevent such shenanigans if I get too aggressive with it in the standard mode...
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Old Dec 15, 2013 | 11:51 PM
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Stock or no? Mine is pushing 424rwhp and I can light 3rd on a fast shift in Competition Mode, but the Traction Control system will cut power to prevent such shenanigans if I get too aggressive with it in the standard mode...
No, im at 426whp.

Didnt get any power cut till i shifted on the limiter. I figured it would cut power too.
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Old Dec 15, 2013 | 11:53 PM
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No, im at 426whp.

Didnt get any power cut till i shifted on the limiter. I figured it would cut power too.
Definitely doesnt act like any TC i've felt before. I posted a dyno under the numbers section.
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Old Dec 15, 2013 | 11:55 PM
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Yeah, we're both playing the same numbers game... if it stops me from spinning the tires, it will stop you. It may be turned off in the tune...
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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 12:28 AM
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I almost always turn mine off (cept when driving in 20 degree temps) cause I can't stand it interrupting when I get on it....
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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 01:13 AM
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The TC monitors the attitude of the front wheels (among other things) to see if the car is pointed straight. If it doesn't sense that she is out of control, or the driver is adding a bunch of inputs (brakes, streering etc...), the TC will allow forward wheel spin.
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Originally Posted by sierra1
The TC monitors the attitude of the front wheels (among other things) to see if the car is pointed straight. If it doesn't sense that she is out of control, or the driver is adding a bunch of inputs (brakes, streering etc...), the TC will allow forward wheel spin.
I guess i need to try her around some curves i've just never seen a tc system allow this much wheelspin. I've only seen the light come on once and that was at the 1-2 shift.
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My TC works just like yours, pointed forward it will spin and swing for a bit but once it gets a little to spin happy it will cut. I love to keep it off, a little more enjoyable!
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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 09:16 AM
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My TC works just like yours, pointed forward it will spin and swing for a bit but once it gets a little to spin happy it will cut. I love to keep it off, a little more enjoyable!
Gotcha, i guess i'm expecting it to cut power early on when wheelspin first starts. For fun/track it'll be off, just doesnt seem to act like any TC i've had on a vehicle before.
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No, it'll let you spin a little bit, but not much
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Because the traction control senses the difference between front and rear wheel speeds tire sizing has an effect on where the traction control cuts in.

If you have tire sizes that are closer to equal, the traction control will cut in sooner.

If you have tires that are larger in the rear than the stock difference in diameters, the traction control will cut in later.

While lots of folks say they don't notice much difference, where it cuts in is effected by tire diameter and the difference in tires can cause it to cut in earlier or later.
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Pulled the
Codes, no input from front wheel speed sensors.

Tires are withing range,
Stock rear size and 255/40-17 front. Will be going
To 275 front though.
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Don't take my answer to heart but i had a after market pair of 18/19s and i could drift my car around the corner, literally azz end loose as can be. I switched to an 19/20 street setup and all the sudden i can spin a little in a straight line but nothing even close to drifting a corner. That being said tire height might have something to do with it. Hope that helps
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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 03:33 PM
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Thanks. I'm on stock wheels and basically stock size tires. I'm not getting any signal from the front wheel speed sensors so I'm working through that at the moment

I appreciate y'all's help and feedback. I'm new to the z06 but not new to cars. I'm learning all the quirks and little known issues. So far this forum has been great!!!
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I should have Clarified more I went with a taller tire on the rear when I switched which helped. If your tires are stock size then it's not the height. You can vary in sizes on the stock wheels. Ride height is a factor as we'll if your rear is as Low as your front or lower which it shouldn't be that will offset the traction control as it did mine. My rear bushings on my lowering bolts were shot and the car was metal on metal which is as low as it could possibly go and I don't think my traction control even worked. Rear is 1/2 inch higher than front should be
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Problem solved. Right speed sensor was super loose at the clip, cleaned both. Cleaned chassis grounds. Works
As its supposed to.

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Congrats on working through the issue. Have fun with the ride!
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Originally Posted by fastrob691
Problem solved. Right speed sensor was super loose at the clip, cleaned both. Cleaned chassis grounds. Works
As its supposed to.
That makes sense
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Originally Posted by Ltrain925
Don't take my answer to heart but i had a after market pair of 18/19s and i could drift my car around the corner, literally azz end loose as can be. I switched to an 19/20 street setup and all the sudden i can spin a little in a straight line but nothing even close to drifting a corner. That being said tire height might have something to do with it. Hope that helps
Could also be the extra weight, and or stickier tires.
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