Notices
C5 General General C5 Corvette and C5 Z06 Discussion not covered in Tech

Corvette comparisons

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 7, 2014 | 11:57 PM
  #1  
Kreeess's Avatar
Kreeess
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,091
Likes: 1
From: Hercules CA
Default Corvette comparisons

So there is a 98 mn6 coupe 80k miles and an 04 z06 also 80k miles..

The z06 produced 420hp to the wheel with exhaust and headers and a 430ish cam.

The 98 coupe then imitates the z06 setup.
Zo6 heads, z06 intake exhaust headers and slightly smaller 229ish cam and barely produces 400 to the wheel...

I know the z is given the 50hp more out the box, but the 98 replaced the main difference which was intake and 243 heads, that should have given both cars similar startin points... With similar mods how come the Z still produced more ? Are the z blocks just that much more awesome? Can someone shed some light for me here? Just curious thanks
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2014 | 12:17 AM
  #2  
bikeriderga's Avatar
bikeriderga
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,423
Likes: 200
From: Atlanta GA
Default

Originally Posted by Kreeess
So there is a 98 mn6 coupe 80k miles and an 04 z06 also 80k miles..

The z06 produced 420hp to the wheel with exhaust and headers and a 430ish cam.

The 98 coupe then imitates the z06 setup.
Zo6 heads, z06 intake exhaust headers and slightly smaller 229ish cam and barely produces 400 to the wheel...

I know the z is given the 50hp more out the box, but the 98 replaced the main difference which was intake and 243 heads, that should have given both cars similar startin points... With similar mods how come the Z still produced more ? Are the z blocks just that much more awesome? Can someone shed some light for me here? Just curious thanks
Which push rods are you using? The cam could make the difference as well.
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2014 | 12:20 AM
  #3  
Kreeess's Avatar
Kreeess
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,091
Likes: 1
From: Hercules CA
Default

Originally Posted by bikeriderga
Which push rods are you using? The cam could make the difference as well.
Pushrods are exactly the same 7.4, Cam on the Z 230/233 113+2 Cam on the 98 229/331 113+1

Could cam make THAT much of a difference? Same tuner also.. Could the 3pin MAF make the big difference? I would think if It did maybe for only about 5hp
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2014 | 12:30 AM
  #4  
skydiven4fun's Avatar
skydiven4fun
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 2,234
Likes: 64
From: Gulf Coast Mississippi
St. Jude Donor '13-'14-'15
Default

Originally Posted by Kreeess
So there is a 98 mn6 coupe 80k miles and an 04 z06 also 80k miles..

The z06 produced 420hp to the wheel with exhaust and headers and a 430ish cam.

The 98 coupe then imitates the z06 setup.
Zo6 heads, z06 intake exhaust headers and slightly smaller 229ish cam and barely produces 400 to the wheel...

I know the z is given the 50hp more out the box, but the 98 replaced the main difference which was intake and 243 heads, that should have given both cars similar startin points... With similar mods how come the Z still produced more ? Are the z blocks just that much more awesome? Can someone shed some light for me here? Just curious thanks
To be honest I've seen many builds with both cars, and everyone of the cars can produce different results, if you mod the ls1 with the same intake cam ect, and even not changing the heads but keeping everything the same, there will be some that are very capable to produce very similar numbers and probably some that will produce more, I know that sounds strange, but every car is a little different, I've seen builds by the same shop, build ls1 and ls6 motors without head changes, but using most all the same parts and some come up with very close to the same results.
And maybe the cam set up could have been a little different maybe, but it's not real difficult to get similar results when the mods are simular.

Last edited by skydiven4fun; Jan 8, 2014 at 12:36 AM.
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2014 | 12:34 AM
  #5  
Kreeess's Avatar
Kreeess
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,091
Likes: 1
From: Hercules CA
Default

Originally Posted by skydiven4fun
To be honest I've seen many builds with both cars, and everyone of the cars can produce different results, if you mod the ls1 with the same intake cam ect, and even not changing the heads but keeping everything by else the same, there will be some that are very capable to produce very similar numbers and probably some that will produce more, I know that sounds strange, but every car is a little different, I've seen builds by the same shop, build ls1 and ls6 motors without head changes, but using most all the same parts and some come up with very close to the same results.
With that being said, does it mean that the 98 would be a less capable car to build on? The 98 is my car and I'm really debating which direction to go with on the car, just wanna make sure I'm spending my money wisely
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2014 | 12:47 AM
  #6  
skydiven4fun's Avatar
skydiven4fun
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 2,234
Likes: 64
From: Gulf Coast Mississippi
St. Jude Donor '13-'14-'15
Default

Originally Posted by Kreeess
With that being said, does it mean that the 98 would be a less capable car to build on? The 98 is my car and I'm really debating which direction to go with on the car, just wanna make sure I'm spending my money wisely
My friend, I, By far am not the guy to advise you on this, I'm just relaying things I've seen, but call someone like Stephen at Englandgreen or any of the several capable shops that specialize in our cars, I'm sure they can give you much more reliable advise that you can count on, but remember every car can react a little different to mods, when We did my car I was told that swapping heads was not a great bang for the buck option that resulted in great gains, although you can in most cases pick up more power, IMO gaining up 15 to 20 horses is not worth the cost of swapping heads unless you need every bit of horsepower available

Last edited by skydiven4fun; Jan 8, 2014 at 12:56 AM.
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2014 | 11:07 AM
  #7  
Kreeess's Avatar
Kreeess
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,091
Likes: 1
From: Hercules CA
Default

Originally Posted by skydiven4fun
My friend, I, By far am not the guy to advise you on this, I'm just relaying things I've seen, but call someone like Stephen at Englandgreen or any of the several capable shops that specialize in our cars, I'm sure they can give you much more reliable advise that you can count on, but remember every car can react a little different to mods, when We did my car I was told that swapping heads was not a great bang for the buck option that resulted in great gains, although you can in most cases pick up more power, IMO gaining up 15 to 20 horses is not worth the cost of swapping heads unless you need every bit of horsepower available
Thanks for the info!
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Corvette comparisons





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:43 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-1
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-5
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE
story-8
5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

Slideshow: 5 most and least popular Corvette model years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 13:25:01


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette buyer's guide

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-17 16:41:08


VIEW MORE