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Old Apr 7, 2014 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by hoosiervette
How hard is the installation? Are they easy to adjust?
Personally I think the installation is pretty easy. If you take your time, I would say plan for maybe a bit over an hour to install them. I have done them a few times so i've got it down, but there is nothing hard about it IMO.
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Old Apr 7, 2014 | 09:25 PM
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The difference:

There are 2 types of ACA headlights currently being sold. The version made in Taiwan (characterized by a complex multidimensional chrome trim ring around the projector) and the version made in China (which has a flat trim ring around the projector or angel eyes)

The version made in China uses inferior materials which include mounting points that have been known to crack upon installation and a lens with poor optics that cause the pattern from the already bottom-shelf projector to be horribly distorted. The following is from the china kit taken ~18 feet from the door using a 5000K HID kit:



Yes, the version from china is less expensive, but there is a good reason. Although we were able to slightly correct for the optical distortion, we stopped carrying the kits due to multiple reports of the mounting points breaking during normal installation


The version made in Taiwan are vastly superior, but the projector is still rather mediocre. The Bi-xenon ACA kit we offer uses a high-quality projector with instant HID high beam using the bi-xenon mechanism.

Here is the Taiwan version with a bi-xenon projector (we have since gone through 2 more generations of projector revision which make the pattern even better)



This is OUR system. The Pinnacle of C5 lighting that retains the factory pop-up system

http://shop.radioflyerinnovations.co...lights-015.htm



What makes our Projector headlights worth 3 times the price of the version on ebay?

1) We are the ONLY vendor that offers Bi-xenon projector optics in a bolt-on system with all appropriate wiring

2) The HID kits included in our pop up headlight kits. draw sufficient power to NOT require a resistor to maintain proper headlight rise/lower function.

3) Our kit includes the Radioflyer-Developed Hi-4 harness which keeps the low beams on with the high beams.

4) We offer a superior quality housing that few other vendors carry due to higher cost

5) Both the Taiwan and China headlights suffer from a low-high beam alignment issue. Correctly aiming the low beams cause the high beams to point into the dirt. There's no easy way to fix this. Our Bi-xenon/LED high beam combination eliminates this problem.

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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...at-doesnt.html
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Old Apr 8, 2014 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by theradioflyer
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The version made in Taiwan are vastly superior, but the projector is still rather mediocre. The Bi-xenon ACA kit we offer uses a high-quality projector with instant HID high beam using the bi-xenon mechanism.
Great info. No doubt you have a superior product. With 70W or 80W ballasts on the low beams, I doubt I would ever use the highs, making the HID high beams and Hi-4 harness overkill. Can you do a 35W ballast at a lower cost and still get the same improved optics? And I assume there is no halo ring on the low beams, correct?
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Old Apr 8, 2014 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Quik Z06
We sell them for $265 shipped with HID's included
Great price. But when I went to verify the price, $31 of shipping was added to my total to ship to the east coast. Which is correct? Thanks.
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Old Apr 8, 2014 | 09:47 AM
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Well I pulled the trigger and went with the Corvette Creations lights for three reasons, 1. he returned my call and answered all my questions. 2. Lifetime guarantee and 3. price.
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Originally Posted by Witmer
Great info. No doubt you have a superior product. With 70W or 80W ballasts on the low beams, I doubt I would ever use the highs, making the HID high beams and Hi-4 harness overkill. Can you do a 35W ballast at a lower cost and still get the same improved optics? And I assume there is no halo ring on the low beams, correct?
A 35w ballast would require a headlight resistor (a silly thing that just gets VERY hot under the hood and sucks up power)

While our low beam is extremely bright, there are times when you need to see something ABOVE the cutoff pattern (ex: street signs or hill country) and Bi-xenon provides the best option for doing this.
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Old Apr 9, 2014 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by theradioflyer
The difference:

What makes our Projector headlights worth 3 times the price of the version on ebay?

1) We are the ONLY vendor that offers Bi-xenon projector optics in a bolt-on system with all appropriate wiring

2) The HID kits included in our pop up headlight kits. draw sufficient power to NOT require a resistor to maintain proper headlight rise/lower function.

3) Our kit includes the Radioflyer-Developed Hi-4 harness which keeps the low beams on with the high beams.

4) We offer a superior quality housing that few other vendors carry due to higher cost

5) Both the Taiwan and China headlights suffer from a low-high beam alignment issue. Correctly aiming the low beams cause the high beams to point into the dirt. There's no easy way to fix this. Our Bi-xenon/LED high beam combination eliminates this problem.

For further reading:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...at-doesnt.html
I’ve done some homework and will most likely spend a little more for the Radioflyer lights. I have tried a set with one of the other suppliers. Unfortunately, I ended up having a bad, and almost catastrophic experience with their product.

The first supplier I used said; “Some Vettes need the supplied harness and some don’t.”
I tried the install first without the supplied harness. Lights didn’t work. I tried again but this time with the harness. Lights still didn’t work. I went to the vendor who sent me to a certain forum member who could help me offline. I did that, and it was that recommended forum member who told me to put in a larger fuse. I tried that and that's when the fire happened. Fortunately, it was limited to one of the supplied harnesses. I was initially angry and wanted to post the names and the messages of the supplier and forum member. However, when I settled down, I realized that the supplier was simply reselling a product and had no electrical expertise in this area. I also realized that the responsibility to modify factory equipment is mine. While I'm no electrician, it’s pretty clear to me now that a fuse is there to protect the system from a possible fault. Looks like my projector light set had such a fault. AND although suggested in other projector light threads on this forum, the larger fuse idea is WRONG! I returned the light set and got my money back.

Do your homework on the C5 projector lights.

In my opinion, the Radioflyer is the better quality, not to mention the Radioflyer detailed information seems to be the most thorough out there on this subject and therefore worth the additional investment to me.

Hope this is helpful.
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Old Apr 9, 2014 | 09:05 PM
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I don't think anyone is doubting they have superior quality, but at the premium they charge, it's not worth it for most people to spend the money on pretty lights that are tucked away most of the time anyway.
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Old Apr 9, 2014 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jrp1588
I don't think anyone is doubting they have superior quality, but at the premium they charge, it's not worth it for most people to spend the money on pretty lights that are tucked away most of the time anyway.
I appreciate what you're saying and would spend less myself if it were just for looks. But while I enjoy the looks, I'm more into the function for my kind of driving. For example, our cross country trip last year was 5600 miles. Sometimes at night. I would love the benefits of the best lights I could get and place a high value on that kind of product.

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Old Apr 9, 2014 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweck
I did that, and it was that recommended forum member who told me to put in a larger fuse. I tried that and that's when the fire happened. Fortunately, it was limited to one of the supplied harnesses.
WOW!!! I knew that swapping fuses presented a fire hazard, but yours is the first case I've heard of where it actually happened. I'm curious for research purposes where fire started on the harness. (Happy things didn't get out of hand too much)

Originally Posted by jrp1588
I don't think anyone is doubting they have superior quality, but at the premium they charge, it's not worth it for most people to spend the money on pretty lights that are tucked away most of the time anyway.
Lights are one of those things that you don't appreciate them until you need them. For cars that are never driven at night, they are perfectly fine with stock headlights. For daily drivers or those that take road trips where headlights are not simply there to pass inspection, being able to see effectively is far more valuable.
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Old Apr 9, 2014 | 11:34 PM
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To each his own I suppose. I love your products, just with I could afford them! haha
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Old Apr 10, 2014 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by theradioflyer
WOW!!! I knew that swapping fuses presented a fire hazard, but yours is the first case I've heard of where it actually happened. I'm curious for research purposes where fire started on the harness. (Happy things didn't get out of hand too much)



Lights are one of those things that you don't appreciate them until you need them. For cars that are never driven at night, they are perfectly fine with stock headlights. For daily drivers or those that take road trips where headlights are not simply there to pass inspection, being able to see effectively is far more valuable.
Fortunately things didn't get out of hand. Check out the following post. I'm in there a number of times seeking help because the lights wont work. Page 15 was my last post with pictures of the aftermath of a very smokey moment. I was surprised at how much smoke this produced.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-p...5-shipped.html
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