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Old Jul 7, 2014 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by c4cruiser
To the OP or any other Canadian members: I was told about the "impound" law last year when I took a trip to Kamloops B.C. I was told the impound law was for speeding something like 40Km (25MPH) over the posted limit. Is this correct or is it a lower speed?

Down here in WA, I see a lot of cars with BC or Alberta plates driving on the Interstate at speeds of 80-90 MPH where the posted speed is 70. I had been told that a ticket in the US doesn't go on a Canadian driver's record but a ticket given in Canada to a US citizen does go back to the US driver's record
I can't answer for BC, because all provinces have their own laws for the road. Here is Ontario's :
Street Racers and Aggressive Drivers – Effective September 30, 2007

The legislation includes tough measures for those who choose to race on Ontario’s roads, including higher fines and longer suspensions:
• The maximum fine increases from $1,000 to $10,000 upon conviction for street racing, making it the highest penalty in Canada. The minimum fine increases from $200 to $2,000.
• Police can issue an immediate seven-day driver’s licence suspension and seven-day vehicle impoundment for street racing, participating in a driving contest or stunt driving.
• Courts can impose a driver licence suspension of up to 10 years for a second conviction, if the second conviction occurs within 10 years of the first. For a first conviction, the maximum licence suspension period remains at 2 years.
• The definition of a “driving stunt” includes driving a motor vehicle at 50 km/h or more above the posted speed limit.
• The Act also bans driving a motor vehicle on a highway with a connected nitrous oxide system. Some street racers use nitrous oxide to enhance the acceleration capabilities of their vehicles.
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Old Jul 7, 2014 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by c4cruiser
To the OP or any other Canadian members: I was told about the "impound" law last year when I took a trip to Kamloops B.C. I was told the impound law was for speeding something like 40Km (25MPH) over the posted limit. Is this correct or is it a lower speed?

Down here in WA, I see a lot of cars with BC or Alberta plates driving on the Interstate at speeds of 80-90 MPH where the posted speed is 70. I had been told that a ticket in the US doesn't go on a Canadian driver's record but a ticket given in Canada to a US citizen does go back to the US driver's record
Some states don't even transfer points if given a ticket in another state. Some are only states touching each other just have to check.
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Old Jul 7, 2014 | 08:46 PM
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I'm going to throw this out. I've been driving for 55 years, always a high performance car. I've been stopped a dozen times over the years. I've never received a ticket " Ever" I have always been polite, but I've never admitted to anything. To think that admitting to nothing is rude and an invite to a ticket is about as dumb as thinking that admitting fault is something in your favor.
You have seen input from a lawyer here, If you are smart ( I'm not admitting that you are smart ) And you missed the reference to the Constitution of the United States, ( which exactly addresses personal admission of guilt ) and input from Police officers, then you deserve what you get. Smart money is on polite attitude with a police officer and a non committal statement of breaking the law. If you can not accomplish that, then your basic communications skills are sadly lacking.
If I'm a police officer and you are dumb enough to tell me that you knew you were going 100 mph, then in my book , you deserve a ticket, Because you consciously broke the law, leaving no room for mitigating circumstances. Many police officers will give you a break based on their day and your attitude. If you flaunt your knowledge of the infraction, there is little room for concession.
This is only correct to a certain extent. A large portion of the decision as to whether you get a ticket or a warning is based on the officer's current assignment. You're much more likely to get a warning from "beat officer" than from a "traffic officer". A beat officer is responsible for "beat accountability". That means they are responsible for whatever happens on their beat. Basically, his/her job is to answer calls for service (some in progress calls and some cold calls), get to know the store clerks, and neighborhood watch captains, take cold case reports, and to know when an unusual occurrence happens on their beat. Yes, a beat officer may make one or two traffic stops in an eight hour shift, but writing tickets is only a very small part of their daily responsibility. A traffic officer, on the other hand, is solely responsible for writing tickets. Usually, 15 to 20 tickets per eight hour shift. When I was a traffic officer, it was all about the numbers. When I observed a traffic violation.......my mind was made up before I ever made the traffic stop whether the driver was going to get a ticket or not. I never liked to give attitude tickets...very unprofessional. What I'm saying is, you have a better chance of getting a warning if you're stopped by a beat officer than a traffic officer.
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Old Jul 7, 2014 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Merlin02
This is only correct to a certain extent. A large portion of the decision as to whether you get a ticket or a warning is based on the officer's current assignment. You're much more likely to get a warning from "beat officer" than from a "traffic officer". A beat officer is responsible for "beat accountability". That means they are responsible for whatever happens on their beat. Basically, his/her job is to answer calls for service (some in progress calls and some cold calls), get to know the store clerks, and neighborhood watch captains, take cold case reports, and to know when an unusual occurrence happens on their beat. Yes, a beat officer may make one or two traffic stops in an eight hour shift, but writing tickets is only a very small part of their daily responsibility. A traffic officer, on the other hand, is solely responsible for writing tickets. Usually, 15 to 20 tickets per eight hour shift. When I was a traffic officer, it was all about the numbers. When I observed a traffic violation.......my mind was made up before I ever made the traffic stop whether the driver was going to get a ticket or not. I never liked to give attitude tickets...very unprofessional. What I'm saying is, you have a better chance of getting a warning if you're stopped by a beat officer than a traffic officer.
Maybe that's what they do in CA .. but here in PA and New Jersey, Pa and New Jersey State troopers do not have a quota system. No wonder there is so much road rage in Ca.. the people are pissed off. I would never want to live in CA, they seem to legislate everything to make money with no concessions for the citizens of the state or their quality of life.
Just an Observation. For as many times that I have been stopped and never received a ticket, its obvious that if they had a quota to fill they could have easily given me a ticket. I've been stopped in Michigan, New Jersey and Pa, and never a ticket.
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Old Jul 8, 2014 | 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
Maybe that's what they do in CA .. but here in PA and New Jersey, Pa and New Jersey State troopers do not have a quota system. No wonder there is so much road rage in Ca.. the people are pissed off. I would never want to live in CA, they seem to legislate everything to make money with no concessions for the citizens of the state or their quality of life.
Just an Observation. For as many times that I have been stopped and never received a ticket, its obvious that if they had a quota to fill they could have easily given me a ticket. I've been stopped in Michigan, New Jersey and Pa, and never a ticket.
Well, I never said anything about having a "quota"....you did. I can certainty say that no one in the police upper management sector would ever use the "Q-word" or ever attempt to set a quota on traffic tickets. Setting of a quota is illegal. Peer pressure is one of the motivating factors of the traffic officer to do his/her job to the best of their ability......that any in doing so reduce the number of serious and fatal collisions.

There's no "maybe" about it.....that's the way it's done. I would even attempt to tell you about how your job is done, and after 27 years in law enforcement think I know of what I speak. I can tell you that beat officers answer calls on a beat, and traffic officers write tickets. I seriously doubt hat la enforcement is any different in NJ or Pa. The job description is basically the same. Arrest crooks and write paperwork.
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Old Jul 8, 2014 | 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Merlin02
Well, I never said anything about having a "quota"....you did. I can certainty say that no one in the police upper management sector would ever use the "Q-word" or ever attempt to set a quota on traffic tickets. Setting of a quota is illegal. Peer pressure is one of the motivating factors of the traffic officer to do his/her job to the best of their ability......that any in doing so reduce the number of serious and fatal collisions.

There's no "maybe" about it.....that's the way it's done. I would even attempt to tell you about how your job is done, and after 27 years in law enforcement think I know of what I speak. I can tell you that beat officers answer calls on a beat, and traffic officers write tickets. I seriously doubt hat la enforcement is any different in NJ or Pa. The job description is basically the same. Arrest crooks and write paperwork.
I may have misunderstood your response. When you said highway officers write 15 to 20 tickets in an 8 hours shift. I thought you meant they had to write 15 to 20 ( expected to write ) a silent but understood directive. I think what you are saying is in the course of their job they write on average, 15 to 20 tickets in a shift, that are deserved... I've heard of people in CA saying there are quotas there.. there is a common conception that many jurisdictions use a quota. I apologize for not understanding how you presented your response. I can fully understand your feeling about someone outside of LE telling you your job.. I get it here everyday from bankers, factory workers, janitors, doctors, about how a Corvette is developed and built. most don't even have a clue how 6000 parts are designed to fit, a large amount built by a dozen second and third tier suppliers from all over the world, and all wind up in Bowling green and all the pieces fit. and most of this is done from concept to development to assembly line in a 2 year time frame.

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