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Old Aug 28, 2014 | 11:16 AM
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Hi folks. I have a 2003 MY Z06 with 69K miles. I recently had the valve springs replaced due to the well-known probability of spring failure. My mechanic said that all was well, but that the engine is now "noisier" than before. I can hear apparent lifter/valve noise that wasn't there before the replacement job. The new springs are a bit stronger than stock but not by much - they are dual springs.

Is extra lifter/spring noise common? Or do I need more adjustments? Thanks much!
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There is no adjustment. The rockers torque down when on the base circle of the cam. This is detailed in the service manual and it needs to be followed.


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[QUOTE=Paul 75 L82;1587701702]There is no adjustment. The rockers torque down when on the base circle of the cam. This is detailed in the service manual and it needs to be followed.

Thanks for the info. So no adjustments.....but what about the additional noise? Is that normal?
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If your mechanic didn't follow the proper procedure he could have torqued the rockers when they were not on the base circle of the cam. That could make for more noise. Just changing the springs shouldn't change the sound. Print out the page I posted and go see him and see what he has to say.
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Dual springs make for more noise. When pressures increase (open/seat) the audible noise level increase's.
Yes normal.
Also the rockers do not need to be on base circle to be properly torqued. If they are not on base circle when torquing then there is the possibility of the tech/mech messing it up if they are not aware of what to do/look for. When torquing the rockers when they are on base circle there is zero chance of messing it up even if the tech/mech was not paying attention. Service manual calls for them to be on base circle so there is no possibility of torquing them down incorrectly.

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Dual springs make for more noise. When pressures increase (open/seat) the audible noise level increase's.
Yes normal.
Also the rockers do not need to be on base circle to be properly torqued. If they are not on base circle when torquing then there is the possibility of the tech/mech messing it up if they are not aware of what to do/look for. When torquing the rockers when they are on base circle there is zero chance of messing it up even if the tech/mech was not paying attention. Service manual calls for them to be on base circle so there is no possibility of torquing them down incorrectly.
Thanks for the info. The engine runs just fine but does have more noise. I'm pretty sure the mechanic followed the service manual instructions - he mentioned how he had to bring the crank to certain specific positions. If the rockers are not torqued to 22 pounds - say to 30 pounds - what happens? Bad things, no doubt!
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That would not cause a problem.
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Originally Posted by slsnider423
The new springs are a bit stronger than stock but not by much - they are dual springs.
Do you know which brand/model they are? Every dual spring I've come across is more than "a bit" firmer than our stock ones.
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Originally Posted by skyavonee
Do you know which brand/model they are? Every dual spring I've come across is more than "a bit" firmer than our stock ones.
I bought them on line at "WS6.Com." I was looking for Patriot springs and had initially ordered them from this place. They called me and told me that Patriot is now out of business, but that they had a set/kit that matched Patriot's specifications. I wish I had kept the box that they came in; I don't remember the brand name of the kit. The springs certainly looked good! I think I remember that the springs were good for .660 lift????
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Does it sound like a sewing machine? (My grandmother/mother always had a sewing machine growing up, so its a very distinct sound to me). My valve train sounds just like a sewing machine. It's normal with the Dual Springs. Post a video of your car idling, it would help some.
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