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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 07:05 PM
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I'm considering a 2002 C5 convertible but my past experience with other converts were disappointing. I found the chassis' flexed causing an awkward feeling. I would like some input comparing the removable top model.
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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 07:09 PM
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Given the way it was designed, should be the same for vert/coupe.FRC.
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I have a 2001 Vert and a 2004 Coupe (removable roof) - I have no twisting issue with either one. Both are stock. With the tube construction introduced with the C5 I believe the twisting is a thing of the past.
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When the C5 frame was designed, it basically started out as a convertible. You will find that the C5 'vert is stronger and stiffer than a C4 coupe.

The C5 coupe frame was created from the basic convertible design. The FRC was a further expansion of the convertible design.
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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Nutdriverss
I'm considering a 2002 C5 convertible but my past experience with other converts were disappointing. I found the chassis' flexed causing an awkward feeling. I would like some input comparing the removable top model.
My 69' Vette and my current C5 are fine. The 69' rode STIFF though, not nearly as smooth as the C5
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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 07:22 PM
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That's good news! I had a C4 with a removable roof and it was horrible with the panel out. Thanks for the input!!
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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Nutdriverss
That's good news! I had a C4 with a removable roof and it was horrible with the panel out. Thanks for the input!!
Here's a brief overview
http://www.thegreatamericansportscar.com/history5.html

Try getting a copy of "All Corvettes are Red" for a great insight on the design and production of the C5
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As Ive said many times, SOME people think 1960's technology still lives in our C5.. back in the 60's and up into the 90's a convertible frame typically was 200 lbs heavier with an added X frame support added for rigidity... That's why some old school mechanics still living in the 60's will tell owners to open their doors before lifting their corvette.. these mechanics are living in the distant past...

As Far as the C5 goes..In 1997, the fifth-generation Corvette represented the first true breakthrough in automotive hydroforming technology with industry-first twin seamless hydroformed frame rails. Each rail began as a piece of 18-foot-long six-inch diameter tubing, and replaced the previous model's 14-piece stamped and spot-welded rails. The frame rails gave the Corvette unprecedented stiffness - a 450 percent improvement - and dramatically improved ride and handling while reducing weight and improving step-in height. It also saved us some $25 million in tooling costs.
This hydroforming procedure was accomplishes at out Pontiac Mich facility, but has since moved in house at Bowling Green.
With a 450% increase in strength there is no need to reinforce the frame for a convertible.
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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by raff
Here's a brief overview
http://www.thegreatamericansportscar.com/history5.html

Try getting a copy of "All Corvettes are Red" for a great insight on the design and production of the C5
That's interesting and very informative.
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I own a '90Miata and a 2001 C5 convertible and I can tell you that C5 is very stiff. I have never noticed any cowl shake.
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My Convertible '02 is as stiff as my race car. Jack up one corner and two more tires will lift off the ground, and this car has no cage! Forget about any twist, they got the C5 right.
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I am no expert, but I've test driven a handful of convertibles and they all twist in ways that make them very undesirable as a sports car. Not the C5. It's as rigid as you could possibly want it to be. For all the pissing and moaning about little stuff (no cup holder), they nailed this big item.
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 02:19 PM
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Who needs a cup holder. GM put two cup holders in the new Camaros and they are useless! MY elbow and arm will hit anything in them more than 3 inches high. Maybe useful for an automatic, but useless for a manual.
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Originally Posted by Mike Beck
Who needs a cup holder. GM put two cup holders in the new Camaros and they are useless! MY elbow and arm will hit anything in them more than 3 inches high. Maybe useful for an automatic, but useless for a manual.
Uh, ok.
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
As Ive said many times, SOME people think 1960's technology still lives in our C5.. back in the 60's and up into the 90's a convertible frame typically was 200 lbs heavier with an added X frame support added for rigidity... That's why some old school mechanics still living in the 60's will tell owners to open their doors before lifting their corvette.. these mechanics are living in the distant past...

As Far as the C5 goes..In 1997, the fifth-generation Corvette represented the first true breakthrough in automotive hydroforming technology with industry-first twin seamless hydroformed frame rails. Each rail began as a piece of 18-foot-long six-inch diameter tubing, and replaced the previous model's 14-piece stamped and spot-welded rails. The frame rails gave the Corvette unprecedented stiffness - a 450 percent improvement - and dramatically improved ride and handling while reducing weight and improving step-in height. It also saved us some $25 million in tooling costs.
This hydroforming procedure was accomplishes at out Pontiac Mich facility, but has since moved in house at Bowling Green.
With a 450% increase in strength there is no need to reinforce the frame for a convertible.
This thread should have ended with this post..........
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by raff
Here's a brief overview
http://www.thegreatamericansportscar.com/history5.html

Try getting a copy of "All Corvettes are Red" for a great insight on the design and production of the C5
Just bought this book hope to get started reading it looks interesting
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