Notices
C5 General General C5 Corvette and C5 Z06 Discussion not covered in Tech

mileage discrepancies

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 21, 2015 | 08:04 AM
  #1  
Scott Luttrell's Avatar
Scott Luttrell
Thread Starter
Advanced
 
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 76
Likes: 0
From: Conway South Carolina
Default mileage discrepancies

I'm lookin at a 99 vette. Price is rite but when i got a copy of the car fax it showed the mileage @ 109in 06, 116 in 10, 99 in 9/8/14, 61800 on 12/1/14. Is it that easy to turn back mileage on a 99? How do you tell? Maybe it was a stunt car and got driven backwards a lot. Just curious.
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2015 | 08:17 AM
  #2  
Phanni's Avatar
Phanni
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 9,488
Likes: 1,743
From: Knoxville Tn
Default

Car Fax reports what is given by the servicing mechanic when service is done. I suspect the head unit of the speedo/Odometer was replaced at some point with a used unit. If the car now has a Heads up display, the 99 was not equipped with the proper connection in the unit so one may have been taken from a newer car equipped with the correct hook up.

I'm guessing on the HUD, but that is one reason why the unit may have been changed.
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2015 | 08:39 AM
  #3  
4XLR8N's Avatar
4XLR8N
Le Mans Master
10 Year Member
Pro Mechanic
Liked
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 7,794
Likes: 2,256
From: Brighton MI
Default

Anything you have to explain hurts resale value - simple as that. Doesn't mean you shouldn't buy the car - but I would assume the mileage is much higher than shown and make my offer accordingly. Anyone who buys the car from you down the road will be doing the same...
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2015 | 09:23 AM
  #4  
JR-01's Avatar
JR-01
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 8,900
Likes: 1,074
From: Wisconsin
Default

Originally Posted by Scott Luttrell
I'm lookin at a 99 vette. Price is rite but when i got a copy of the car fax it showed the mileage @ 109in 06, 116 in 10, 99 in 9/8/14, 61800 on 12/1/14. Is it that easy to turn back mileage on a 99? How do you tell? Maybe it was a stunt car and got driven backwards a lot. Just curious.
Is the seller claiming the the mileage on the odometer is correct? I would need an explanation or I would walk.
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2015 | 10:31 AM
  #5  
92GA's Avatar
92GA
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,067
Likes: 46
From: Springfield IL.
Oldtimer
Default

Originally Posted by Phanni
Car Fax reports what is given by the servicing mechanic when service is done. I suspect the head unit of the speedo/Odometer was replaced at some point with a used unit. If the car now has a Heads up display, the 99 was not equipped with the proper connection in the unit so one may have been taken from a newer car equipped with the correct hook up.

I'm guessing on the HUD, but that is one reason why the unit may have been changed.
You are wrong about the 99 not having heads up display. They did have heads up display in 99. code UV6
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2015 | 11:19 AM
  #6  
grantv's Avatar
grantv
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 5,278
Likes: 539
From: Kelowna BC
Default Strange

I was going to ask if it was originally a Canadian car (would be logged in Kilometers here), but the numbers just don't quite add up still; still lower later.
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2015 | 11:51 AM
  #7  
Vetteman Jack's Avatar
Vetteman Jack
Administrator
Supporting Lifetime
Veteran: Navy
St. Jude 20 Year Donor
25 Year Member
Veteran: Reserves
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 367,946
Likes: 24,702
From: In a parallel universe. Currently own 2014 Stingray Coupe.
C7 of the Year - Modified Finalist 2021
MO Events Coordinator
St. Jude Co-Organizer
St. Jude Donor '03 thru '25
NCM Sinkhole Donor
CI 5, 8 & 11 Veteran
Default

Originally Posted by 92GA
You are wrong about the 99 not having heads up display. They did have heads up display in 99. code UV6
Exactly, my '99 had it and I ordered it in Nov 98 and too delivery in Jan 99.

And I agree with 4XLR8N - I'd have lots of questions about just how many miles are actually on that car. Proceed with caution.
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2015 | 11:57 AM
  #8  
Phanni's Avatar
Phanni
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 9,488
Likes: 1,743
From: Knoxville Tn
Default

I stand corrected about the HUD.

But the theory about the head unit being replaced still stands. It's likely been replaced for some reason. Unit failure or deceptive marketing are both possibilities.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-6

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
Old Jan 21, 2015 | 12:37 PM
  #9  
cessna10's Avatar
cessna10
cesssna10
Supporting Member
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,391
Likes: 47
From: Big Canoe Ga
Default

Originally Posted by JR-01
Is the seller claiming the the mileage on the odometer is correct? I would need an explanation or I would walk.
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2015 | 12:43 PM
  #10  
allred's Avatar
allred
Drifting
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,936
Likes: 13
From: Redding California
Default

So difficult to remember all the different colors, when which feature was added, etc. Here's the details on the HUD from www.webcars.com.............

"The Heads Up Display (HUD) was available starting in 1999 and was welcomed as a useful driving tool by the 19,034 owners whose Corvettes were so equipped. The system (RPO UV6; $375.00) was rich with features and displayed speedometer, tachometer, (with shift light) water temperature, oil pressure, fuel level and turn signal on the windshield in front of the driver. A flashing "check gauges" indicator would alert the driver that one of the other dashboard alerts needed action. A page feature allowed the driver to view only certain readouts. Adjustment for various driver heights and brightness was available".

As for the OPs speedometer discrepancies, as Phanni states, "Unit failure or deceptive marketing are both possibilities". I would tread lightly.



.
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2015 | 07:07 PM
  #11  
Scott Luttrell's Avatar
Scott Luttrell
Thread Starter
Advanced
 
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 76
Likes: 0
From: Conway South Carolina
Default mileage issues

[QUOTE=allred;1588771775]So difficult to remember all the different colors, when which feature was added, etc. Here's the details on the HUD from www.webcars.com.............

"The Heads Up Display (HUD) was available starting in 1999 and was welcomed as a useful driving tool by the 19,034 owners whose Corvettes were so equipped. The system (RPO UV6; $375.00) was rich with features and displayed speedometer, tachometer, (with shift light) water temperature, oil pressure, fuel level and turn signal on the windshield in front of the driver. A flashing "check gauges" indicator would alert the driver that one of the other dashboard alerts needed action. A page feature allowed the driver to view only certain readouts. Adjustment for various driver heights and brightness was available".

As for the OPs speedometer discrepancies, as Phanni states, "Unit failure or deceptive marketing are both possibilities". I would tread lightly.


Once again thank you all for your time and responses. Gonna leave this one alone. This car also was wrecked. It went to auction on last sale. Don't think a 99 vette with a true 61000 on it is goin to auction. If it were local I'd check it out of curiosity. If it sounds too good walk away. Fast!
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2015 | 07:37 PM
  #12  
4XLR8N's Avatar
4XLR8N
Le Mans Master
10 Year Member
Pro Mechanic
Liked
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 7,794
Likes: 2,256
From: Brighton MI
Default

Good call, Scott. Plenty of great C5's out there to be had, no need to settle for something like that one...
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2015 | 09:42 PM
  #13  
zdeckich's Avatar
zdeckich
Safety Car
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 3,802
Likes: 322
From: Fort Worth Texas
2017 Corvette of Year Finalist
2016 C5 of the Year
Default

Could be DMV error, If you want send me the vin and I can trace it and figure out why. I work with car titles for a living.
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2015 | 10:00 PM
  #14  
1Willy1's Avatar
1Willy1
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 3,311
Likes: 386
From: Toronto Ontario
Default

Its even easier now to roll back the mileage on a car since everything is digital, all you need is a little plug in computer and the stroke of a key will do it.

On our lexus forums we actually have a vender who will do a roll back for you , but under the legal name which is called "odometer correction" , for $100.00

If the guy doesn't have a proper explanation , like if the car is a Canadian (which has both miles and kilometres), if the head unit has been changed or if the mileage had been changed, id walk away.
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2015 | 11:43 PM
  #15  
Phanni's Avatar
Phanni
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 9,488
Likes: 1,743
From: Knoxville Tn
Default

The Corvette switches back and forth between miles and Kilos with the push of a button. To change the mileage on one requires more than a hook up to the computer a head unit replacement is the easy way. CarFax records events of service so there is an ongoing record every time one goes through dealership maintenance. Thus if the mileage show a downturn through Carfax, there is usually something going on. Yes dealers can make errors, but they usually don't involve negative 10s of thousands of miles.
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2015 | 11:48 PM
  #16  
1Willy1's Avatar
1Willy1
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 3,311
Likes: 386
From: Toronto Ontario
Default

Originally Posted by Phanni
The Corvette switches back and forth between miles and Kilos with the push of a button. To change the mileage on one requires more than a hook up to the computer a head unit replacement is the easy way. CarFax records events of service so there is an ongoing record every time one goes through dealership maintenance. Thus if the mileage show a downturn through Carfax, there is usually something going on. Yes dealers can make errors, but they usually don't involve negative 10s of thousands of miles.
I wasn't sure if all C5's can switch back and forth between miles and kilometres, I thought it was only Canadian cars but I could be wrong.

That would be my first logical guess, that for whatever reason the mileage was originally registered in kilometres and then later on miles, but if that's not the case then something is up.
Reply
Old Jan 22, 2015 | 02:16 AM
  #17  
laurent_zo6's Avatar
laurent_zo6
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,491
Likes: 315
St. Jude Donor '15-'16-'17-'18-'19-'20-'21-'22
Default

Originally Posted by 1Willy1
I wasn't sure if all C5's can switch back and forth between miles and kilometres, I thought it was only Canadian cars but I could be wrong.

That would be my first logical guess, that for whatever reason the mileage was originally registered in kilometres and then later on miles, but if that's not the case then something is up.
I can switch between miles and kilometers here in the States on my '02 Z06.
It's possible car was brought in for service sometimes with the km showing and sometimes with the miles showing. Easy to switch between the two if you're not careful when checking gauges for examples.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To mileage discrepancies

Old Jan 22, 2015 | 07:03 AM
  #18  
Scott Luttrell's Avatar
Scott Luttrell
Thread Starter
Advanced
 
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 76
Likes: 0
From: Conway South Carolina
Default

Originally Posted by zdeckich
Could be DMV error, If you want send me the vin and I can trace it and figure out why. I work with car titles for a living.
Hello and thanks for the reply. vin# 1G1YY12G3X5116066 pLEASE LET ME KNOW.NOW I'M REALLY CURIOUS !
Reply
Old Jan 22, 2015 | 10:37 AM
  #19  
JR-01's Avatar
JR-01
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 8,900
Likes: 1,074
From: Wisconsin
Default

Originally Posted by laurent_zo6
I can switch between miles and kilometers here in the States on my '02 Z06.
It's possible car was brought in for service sometimes with the km showing and sometimes with the miles showing. Easy to switch between the two if you're not careful when checking gauges for examples.
Right. C5s have that feature to switch between KM and Miles. Sometimes I switch to KM and have my wife look at the speedo to see how fast I'm going just to freak her out.
Reply
Old Jan 22, 2015 | 12:23 PM
  #20  
tomikem's Avatar
tomikem
Instructor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 221
Likes: 39
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Default

If gauge reads 200 mph maximum, it's a U.S. vehicle. If it reads 300 kph maximum, it's a Canadian car.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:28 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-1
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-8
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE