[Z06] Tires, yes; again.
Melting Slicks
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did you try the Tire Rack? There is a place in Ontario I've used to bring the tires in .......the dollar is a killer right now though.
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I'm starting to look @ tire options as well & considering Yokohama AD08 & AD08R. I don't see comments from the CF group regarding these tires & would really like to hear some feedback. Also giving another option to grantv 
These would not be a high mileage tire should that be important, we have winter in BC. Myself tires are dead with age long before tread wear
These would not be a high mileage tire should that be important, we have winter in BC. Myself tires are dead with age long before tread wear
Melting Slicks
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Interesting, I'm currently running PS2's, I would think that is a better street tire than PSS?
The AD08 has a lower tread wear rating than of the Michelin's. I'm running sensible near useless power level but lean towards hnadling over straight line traction. I would have thought the Yoki may shine on the street.
The AD08 has a lower tread wear rating than of the Michelin's. I'm running sensible near useless power level but lean towards hnadling over straight line traction. I would have thought the Yoki may shine on the street.
Drifting
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I installed Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sport's in stock z06 sizes, not really sure why they get a bad name around here? I like them a lot they ride nicer and are more quite then the DW's that was on the car, i'm not into autox i do drive aggressive at times and they preform well in my case, I will say the DW's did corner a "little" better but not by much. the RE760's do well in the wet, better then the DW's
265/40/17 - 295/35/18
265/40/17 - 295/35/18
So, that being said, w/ the way I drive my Z (weekend summer/nice weather only car, w/ the occasional road trip) - which I would consider 6 to 7/10th's occasionally on the street/backroads (and what I would term "normal" for the Z - if you're not driving it like that get an automatic convertible) I decided the Bridgestones just would not cut it on the Z period.
I purchased the Nitto NT05's like many others - best bang for the buck, and a "proper" tire for the C5Z.
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Interesting, I'm currently running PS2's, I would think that is a better street tire than PSS?
The AD08 has a lower tread wear rating than of the Michelin's. I'm running sensible near useless power level but lean towards hnadling over straight line traction. I would have thought the Yoki may shine on the street.
The AD08 has a lower tread wear rating than of the Michelin's. I'm running sensible near useless power level but lean towards hnadling over straight line traction. I would have thought the Yoki may shine on the street.
the yoke will likely perform better above 80deg and on dry roads. beings street cars run the rain a lot and cooler temps that's where my comment came from. if you have a garage queen that only sees sunny days the ad08 will probably be the better choice as its limits are higher in the right conditions
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Melting Slicks
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it's the tread compound, wear rating only tells you part of the story. the pss is considerably better than the ps2 but really, why it's so good on the street is that it's made to perform best between 60 and 130deg, the ad08 will pull high hot dry numbers, is likely a bit slower in the rain and will get you about 60% of the treadlife.
the yoke will likely perform better above 80deg and on dry roads. beings street cars run the rain a lot and cooler temps that's where my comment came from. if you have a garage queen that only sees sunny days the ad08 will probably be the better choice as its limits are higher in the right conditions
the yoke will likely perform better above 80deg and on dry roads. beings street cars run the rain a lot and cooler temps that's where my comment came from. if you have a garage queen that only sees sunny days the ad08 will probably be the better choice as its limits are higher in the right conditions
Myself I like a street tire(with tread depth) exceptional Dry Auto X capabilities with little concern regarding rain & wear. From my Auto X days sorting the tires out as in the ones setting quick's times were in the lower tread wear numbers.
Drifting
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I actually considered the R-S3, until I added it up and it was about the same cost in 265/35-18|305/30-19 as the Pilot Super Sport
I don't deal with much rain at all in Yuma, so I'd probably still consider it if I didn't drive to San Diego (through the mountains) all the time
The added benefit to the Super Sport and V12, in addition to their great wet performance versus their competitors in the same price ranges, is the fact that both are available in 325/30-19 for the crowd running C6Z sizing out back
I don't deal with much rain at all in Yuma, so I'd probably still consider it if I didn't drive to San Diego (through the mountains) all the time
The added benefit to the Super Sport and V12, in addition to their great wet performance versus their competitors in the same price ranges, is the fact that both are available in 325/30-19 for the crowd running C6Z sizing out back
* V12's are fine for daily driving, NOTHING else. search around your auto-x and hpde circles.. its well known these things do not handle it well at all
* RS3's are badass. i ordered 4, took them to a track day, got home, and ordered 3 more. the v1's were on a clearance on tirerack and i bought the last 7 they had (im running 285 squared and cleaned them out!)
* SS is very comparable to RS3, just in my case i caught the last RS3s in stock and got them cheaper
If you can pick between SS and RS3, in terms of the one single day I got to experience each on track, they felt quite similar. Possibly with the RS3's being even better. I love those tires for a budget non-R non-slick performance tire.
I ran the v12s for one track day and removed all 4 and put them on my tire rack as spares. They're total junk.
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Hankook in stock Z sizing?
Anybody run different tires front and back without any weird driving issues? Problem is I have 3000-4000 miles on a new set of Goodyear F1 Supercar tires on the back. I could get 2 fronts to match, but then I start the vicious ($) circle of keeping those on the purchase list.
My original post was thinking to buy a full new set of tires and sell the F1's...
Anybody run different tires front and back without any weird driving issues? Problem is I have 3000-4000 miles on a new set of Goodyear F1 Supercar tires on the back. I could get 2 fronts to match, but then I start the vicious ($) circle of keeping those on the purchase list.
My original post was thinking to buy a full new set of tires and sell the F1's...
A car will only perform to the extent of 2 variables:
1.) the skills/ability of the controlling driver, and
2.) the *TIRES that are responsible for keeping any/all power and the vehicle itself safely planted to the road.
Do not skimp on something important as tires (If you drive your car to its performance limits). Consider it one of the responsible costs of ownership. Chevy invested a lot of $$$ in R&D and chose the Goodyear rubber for a reason.
I'm not a professional, but in truth I've been driving a C5 since 1997, and then upgraded to a Z06 just over a year ago. Combine the experience with some fundamental racing courses... I drive the car to it's handling limits multiple times weekly. The Goodyear tires once warmed up are hard to beat to the fact that I can feel the blood loss from side to side of my brain when running hard through the mountains (all while not hearing a single bit of tire squeal or loss of traction).
Case in point:
The manufacturer tires have kept you alive for this long, so why not keep it going. Especially since it sounds like you drive the car hard enough to frequently need tires.
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Le Mans Master
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Somebody griped on one of the forums lately that most people don't come back and state their decisions based on their OP. I put together the fact that the Supercar is probably, even if not the best tire out there, as good or better than me! 
Because I live in a small area (100,000 people here, smaller towns an hour north and south...), I knew selling my rear F1's would be at best difficult. So F1's it is. On order, March 18th (headers should be done, PCM, LMC5, oil etc.) and roads should have no or at least less grit on them.
Thanks to all for your input.
Because I live in a small area (100,000 people here, smaller towns an hour north and south...), I knew selling my rear F1's would be at best difficult. So F1's it is. On order, March 18th (headers should be done, PCM, LMC5, oil etc.) and roads should have no or at least less grit on them.
Thanks to all for your input.
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Yokohoma ADO8R
I'm starting to look @ tire options as well & considering Yokohama AD08 & AD08R. I don't see comments from the CF group regarding these tires & would really like to hear some feedback. Also giving another option to grantv
These would not be a high mileage tire should that be important, we have winter in BC. Myself tires are dead with age long before tread wear
These would not be a high mileage tire should that be important, we have winter in BC. Myself tires are dead with age long before tread wear
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Good & Interesting comments, tires are starting to sound like clutch's & camshafts. Like many things a clear list in the order of importance, is performance in rain important such as the Wet Coast, tread life, straight line traction, corners for us Mountain guys etc. So a tire that is the best for one driver & condition is not the best for the another.
Myself I like a street tire(with tread depth) exceptional Dry Auto X capabilities with little concern regarding rain & wear. From my Auto X days sorting the tires out as in the ones setting quick's times were in the lower tread wear numbers.
Myself I like a street tire(with tread depth) exceptional Dry Auto X capabilities with little concern regarding rain & wear. From my Auto X days sorting the tires out as in the ones setting quick's times were in the lower tread wear numbers.
tires are very much like cams. the ad08 in my opinion is around 232-236deg duration at .50, a hot street cam that can be raced, can be street driven and really behaves pretty well, it just lets you know it's hot. the pss would be a bit smaller, maybe 224deg, better daily driver cam, won't make quite as much power as the ad08 but is easier to live with in the rain, miles, and commuting.
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Just placed these on my 02 Zo6 last year. I assure you these tires are worth every penny. Traction is off the chart and then there is the one thing you will not expect from a HP tire. They are QUIET. Do not know how they will be after a few summers on them. But last year was one of the most enjoyable years ever in a corvette.
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Somebody griped on one of the forums lately that most people don't come back and state their decisions based on their OP. I put together the fact that the Supercar is probably, even if not the best tire out there, as good or better than me!
Because I live in a small area (100,000 people here, smaller towns an hour north and south...), I knew selling my rear F1's would be at best difficult. So F1's it is. On order, March 18th (headers should be done, PCM, LMC5, oil etc.) and roads should have no or at least less grit on them.
Thanks to all for your input.
Because I live in a small area (100,000 people here, smaller towns an hour north and south...), I knew selling my rear F1's would be at best difficult. So F1's it is. On order, March 18th (headers should be done, PCM, LMC5, oil etc.) and roads should have no or at least less grit on them.
Thanks to all for your input.
the ps2 comes in oem exact sizes and is a better tire in every measurable way, especially as they age. the ps2 is good for 3-4 years, the supercar is lucky to make it 1
year 1 the supercar and ps2 perform similar in the dry, ps2 wins in the rain, year 2 onward the ps2 will win no problem. the ps2 also can go a touch more miles more times than not
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having driven the v12 and RS3 (older version, v1) and have friends cars on SS, in track and auto-x conditions, i can very confidently say:
* V12's are fine for daily driving, NOTHING else. search around your auto-x and hpde circles.. its well known these things do not handle it well at all
* RS3's are badass. i ordered 4, took them to a track day, got home, and ordered 3 more. the v1's were on a clearance on tirerack and i bought the last 7 they had (im running 285 squared and cleaned them out!)
* SS is very comparable to RS3, just in my case i caught the last RS3s in stock and got them cheaper
If you can pick between SS and RS3, in terms of the one single day I got to experience each on track, they felt quite similar. Possibly with the RS3's being even better. I love those tires for a budget non-R non-slick performance tire.
I ran the v12s for one track day and removed all 4 and put them on my tire rack as spares. They're total junk.
* V12's are fine for daily driving, NOTHING else. search around your auto-x and hpde circles.. its well known these things do not handle it well at all
* RS3's are badass. i ordered 4, took them to a track day, got home, and ordered 3 more. the v1's were on a clearance on tirerack and i bought the last 7 they had (im running 285 squared and cleaned them out!)
* SS is very comparable to RS3, just in my case i caught the last RS3s in stock and got them cheaper
If you can pick between SS and RS3, in terms of the one single day I got to experience each on track, they felt quite similar. Possibly with the RS3's being even better. I love those tires for a budget non-R non-slick performance tire.
I ran the v12s for one track day and removed all 4 and put them on my tire rack as spares. They're total junk.
The V12 is definitely NOT a tire I'd want to autocross.
It sounds to me like the R-S3, PSS, AD08, and maybe the R888 fit your interests a LOT more than the V12... the only reason I brought it up in the first place was because the other guy mentioned his Hankooks without specifying which ones he had. The OP seems to want something more than a solid street tire.
Melting Slicks
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Just placed these on my 02 Zo6 last year. I assure you these tires are worth every penny. Traction is off the chart and then there is the one thing you will not expect from a HP tire. They are QUIET. Do not know how they will be after a few summers on them. But last year was one of the most enjoyable years ever in a corvette.
I've had my eye on these for awhile, they did not have the sizing I needed until recently. Tx's for report
Melting Slicks
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I just recam'd with lifter, rocker arm & valve spring upgrades over the winter. Intake duration is right in your range 
reduced the overlap to 5* from 10. If you remember my clutch fiasco last summer 
I'm looking forward to summer of fun after some re tuning & dyno work This is the reason for the interest in this thread, my PS2's are dead from age. As you mentioned they age gracefully, I'm a tad over 500ftlbs, full coil over & sway bar with an aggressive street alignment so I need some new shoes to get it connected to the pavement.
Tx's for your time to comment
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I went through the same agonizing, but for a car that was to see track time and street time. Finally, I grit my teeth and ordered the PSII's. They have done 8 track days and have plenty of tread left. Half those days were in the rain--the tires were worth the extra money--they excel in all conditions. Next time, will do the SSports, they are now rated better in every category. Consider coughing up the extra $.
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Just placed these on my 02 Zo6 last year. I assure you these tires are worth every penny. Traction is off the chart and then there is the one thing you will not expect from a HP tire. They are QUIET. Do not know how they will be after a few summers on them. But last year was one of the most enjoyable years ever in a corvette.
I went through the same agonizing, but for a car that was to see track time and street time. Finally, I grit my teeth and ordered the PSII's. They have done 8 track days and have plenty of tread left. Half those days were in the rain--the tires were worth the extra money--they excel in all conditions. Next time, will do the SSports, they are now rated better in every category. Consider coughing up the extra $.