Notices
C5 General General C5 Corvette and C5 Z06 Discussion not covered in Tech

Runs in the paint

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 2, 2015 | 10:55 PM
  #1  
Harley6's Avatar
Harley6
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 234
Likes: 63
From: Phoenix (Fall/winter/spring); Seattle (summer)
2015 C5 of the Year Finalist
Default Runs in the paint

Checked out a very nice looking 2002 coupe today that a local dealer just took in. The car is extremely clean in every aspect, especially considering it has 70,000 miles.

I looked into every crevice I could see and I noticed two places where there were runs in the paint. They weren't on any exterior surface, but one was on the edge of the left quarter under the hatch when it's closed and the other is on a similar place on the top of the nose and out of sight when the hood is closed. (The picture is from the front, a little hard to see because of reflection but it's just below the bolt)

The carfax shows no history of accident damage (I know, carfax isnt the whole story on a car) and the dealer says there was never any body/paint work ever done (of course they'd say that).

So, could it be that is was sloppy paint work at the factory?
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2015 | 12:05 AM
  #2  
Vetteman Jack's Avatar
Vetteman Jack
Administrator
Supporting Lifetime
Veteran: Navy
St. Jude 20 Year Donor
25 Year Member
Veteran: Reserves
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 368,390
Likes: 24,791
From: In a parallel universe. Currently own 2014 Stingray Coupe.
C7 of the Year - Modified Finalist 2021
MO Events Coordinator
St. Jude Co-Organizer
St. Jude Donor '03 thru '26
NCM Sinkhole Donor
CI 5, 8 & 11 Veteran
Default

I wouldn't rule out that it happened at the factory. But since the car was built 14 years ago, hard to say.
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2015 | 12:47 AM
  #3  
Not4spd's Avatar
Not4spd
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,185
Likes: 641
From: Garland TX
Default

Looks like a clear run. Around the run it looks like there is trash in the paint and the clear has quite a bit of orange peel. Most likely was repainted at one point time and the work was sloppy. Most owners aren't going to necessarily check that spot so it allows the body shop to over look it.

Last edited by Not4spd; Aug 3, 2015 at 12:49 AM.
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2015 | 01:09 AM
  #4  
Harley6's Avatar
Harley6
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 234
Likes: 63
From: Phoenix (Fall/winter/spring); Seattle (summer)
2015 C5 of the Year Finalist
Default

I just looked at a history report on the car and it shows that a paint sealant was applied by the dealer in 2010. I'm not familiar with that process, but could that be it?
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2015 | 02:59 AM
  #5  
CaseyJones's Avatar
CaseyJones
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,503
Likes: 33
From: McGrady NC
St. Jude Donor '15-'16
Default

That is usually a manual coating applied like a spray wax. If there is no structural damage I'd say that the bumper cover was repainted at some point for cosmetic reasons. Possibly no big deal for a 70K mile car. Mine was purchased from the original owner and had some rock chips from being driven, even though the miles were good.
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2015 | 07:50 AM
  #6  
sfc rick's Avatar
sfc rick
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,119
Likes: 156
From: Huntington tx
Default

Looks a little "thick" to me suggesting maybe a respray over the front bumper.
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2015 | 11:52 AM
  #7  
tandt's Avatar
tandt
Instructor
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 118
Likes: 8
Default

Originally Posted by sfc rick
Looks a little "thick" to me suggesting maybe a respray over the front bumper.
Agreed, orange peel on it looks different than the orange peel on the headlight cover.
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2015 | 05:18 PM
  #8  
Black 02's Avatar
Black 02
Safety Car
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 4,260
Likes: 429
From: Houston TX
Default

Doesn't look factory but a respray on the nose cone wouldn't be alarming to me. Could be a light parking lot tap or a respray due to rock chips or other road hazards. If anything, it could be looked at as a positive on a higher mileage car since it'll look fresh up front. If the rest of the car looks clean, do what your heart tells you.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Aug 3, 2015 | 05:57 PM
  #9  
Harley6's Avatar
Harley6
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 234
Likes: 63
From: Phoenix (Fall/winter/spring); Seattle (summer)
2015 C5 of the Year Finalist
Default

Originally Posted by Black 02
Doesn't look factory but a respray on the nose cone wouldn't be alarming to me. Could be a light parking lot tap or a respray due to rock chips or other road hazards. If anything, it could be looked at as a positive on a higher mileage car since it'll look fresh up front. If the rest of the car looks clean, do what your heart tells you.
I also read somewhere that it's good to inspect the right front frame rail, just behind the nose where the VIN is printed, for signs of repair. The frame rail on that side was straight but the surface around the VIN looked different than the left side -- a little grimier and not as consistent finish as the other side.
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2015 | 06:19 PM
  #10  
Black 02's Avatar
Black 02
Safety Car
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 4,260
Likes: 429
From: Houston TX
Default

Originally Posted by Harley6
I also read somewhere that it's good to inspect the right front frame rail, just behind the nose where the VIN is printed, for signs of repair. The frame rail on that side was straight but the surface around the VIN looked different than the left side -- a little grimier and not as consistent finish as the other side.
That could be a bad sign. If you really like the car, have a PPI done and go from there.
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2015 | 06:36 PM
  #11  
Choreo's Avatar
Choreo
Le Mans Master
Supporting Lifetime
20 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 6,774
Likes: 363
From: Midland TX
Default

Looks like it is ready to "part out".
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2015 | 09:36 PM
  #12  
Harley6's Avatar
Harley6
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 234
Likes: 63
From: Phoenix (Fall/winter/spring); Seattle (summer)
2015 C5 of the Year Finalist
Default

Originally Posted by Choreo
Looks like it is ready to "part out".
And for $19k (the dealer's asking price) you've got yourself a parts car!

Actually, the car is very clean. It's not for me (too many miles and I need an automatic) but I gave it a thorough look as an exercise in my sleuthing ability before I leave tomorrow to look at an 04 that interests me. Those paint drips are pretty slight and my guess is a lot of average car buyers would never notice. But thanks to everyone on this forum I've learned quite a bit about what to look for in terms of finding clues to a car's history that the dealer won't admit.
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2015 | 10:42 PM
  #13  
Choreo's Avatar
Choreo
Le Mans Master
Supporting Lifetime
20 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 6,774
Likes: 363
From: Midland TX
Default

Originally Posted by Harley6
And for $19k (the dealer's asking price) you've got yourself a parts car!

Actually, the car is very clean. It's not for me (too many miles and I need an automatic) but I gave it a thorough look as an exercise in my sleuthing ability before I leave tomorrow to look at an 04 that interests me. Those paint drips are pretty slight and my guess is a lot of average car buyers would never notice. But thanks to everyone on this forum I've learned quite a bit about what to look for in terms of finding clues to a car's history that the dealer won't admit.
I personally would not care about the paint issues, both the orange peel and the clear coat runs are easily corrected with wet-sanding and/or polishing. My only concern would be "why" they were maybe repainted. With 70,000 miles that bumper probably took a pretty good beating from road-rocks, etc. and if that is the reason it was repainted, then no problem as long as it was done right; however, most repainted bumpers show wear sooner if exposed to the same torture. There are lots of reasons to repaint a panel where there was only cosmetic damage.

I special ordered my 2001 Black and within a few weeks the clear on the front left fender turned yellow and started peeling off in sheets! The Dealership stripped the clear and re-cleared it and it still looks like new after 15 years as a DD. Right after my warranty expired, I got the somewhat common deck lid bonding strip bubbling the paint all across the rear deck - fortunately GM agreed to replace and repaint the entire deck lid on their dime since I had purchased so many new Corvettes in the past. Deck lid looks like new years later. Then I had a dump truck drop rocks on the highway that bounced up and got my hood - repainted it about 8 years ago, still looks like new. If I had not had the 3M Clearmask on the front bumper - that would have been hosed as well, but it repelled all the rocks without a scratch.

What I am trying to say is, if you drive the car every day and you want to keep it looking pristine (like I do), then an occasional repainted panel may be necessary. Cosmetic damage just happens.

Last edited by Choreo; Aug 3, 2015 at 10:46 PM.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Runs in the paint





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:03 AM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE