Notices
C5 General General C5 Corvette and C5 Z06 Discussion not covered in Tech

C5 Brake Caliper Bolt Fail

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 24, 2015 | 09:32 PM
  #1  
thedudeman's Avatar
thedudeman
Thread Starter
Instructor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 128
Likes: 1
Default C5 Brake Caliper Bolt Fail

So I noticed a rattling sound on my front driver side the other day. It came and went and happened after I put air in the tires. I thought something might be dragging, but everytime I looked, nada. So I got under it today and noticed I am missing the upper bolt on the driver side front brake caliper! Wondering if my other bolts were loose, I checked the passenger side and noticed that the bolt was on all the way but just spins in place. Obviously, it's not normal to loose a bolt. How tight should these bolts be and has this happened to anyone else? Thanks.
Reply
Old Nov 24, 2015 | 09:37 PM
  #2  
El original's Avatar
El original
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 3,146
Likes: 203
From: Edmonton Alberta, Canada
Default

Sounds like a DIY brake job gone bad. Someone stripped and did not torque bolts...yikes, makes one wonder what other projects were done to such poor standards?!
Just google for torque values.
Reply
Old Nov 24, 2015 | 10:13 PM
  #3  
feeder82's Avatar
feeder82
Safety Car
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,756
Likes: 1,215
From: Wisconsin
Default

The caliper mounting brackets 125lb ft. The guide pin bolts 23 lb ft.
Reply
Old Nov 26, 2015 | 07:07 AM
  #4  
apex26's Avatar
apex26
Racer
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 470
Likes: 58
Default

not a bad idea to check other critical bolts as well. Checked recently and my RR axle nut was loose! According to service records and original owner, this nut has never been off.
Reply
Old Nov 26, 2015 | 08:31 AM
  #5  
leadfoot4's Avatar
leadfoot4
Team Owner
25 Year Member
Active Streak: 60 Days
Active Streak: 90 Days
Community Builder
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 87,356
Likes: 1,592
From: Western NY
Default

Originally Posted by feeder82
The caliper mounting brackets 125lb ft. The guide pin bolts 23 lb ft.




With some Locktite on the bracket bolts, and a little anti-seize on the guide pins.....
Reply
Old Nov 26, 2015 | 09:01 AM
  #6  
spdislife's Avatar
spdislife
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 5,403
Likes: 31
From: Allentown PA & Elk Twp NJ HPDE Addict
Default

Originally Posted by thedudeman
I checked the passenger side and noticed that the bolt was on all the way but just spins in place.
It may be the caliper mounting bolt and the guide pin are both turning.
Reply
Old Nov 26, 2015 | 10:02 AM
  #7  
Sox-Fan's Avatar
Sox-Fan
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,990
Likes: 346
From: Mt. Pleasant S.C.
Default

125 ft/lb and locktite. Mine are on and off the car frequently, I replace them regularly. Cheap insurance.
Reply
Old Nov 26, 2015 | 10:11 AM
  #8  
yaknow's Avatar
yaknow
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 7,207
Likes: 311
From: Lino Lakes MN
Default

Originally Posted by Sox-Fan
125 ft/lb and locktite. Mine are on and off the car frequently, I replace them regularly. Cheap insurance.
Reply
Old Nov 26, 2015 | 10:43 AM
  #9  
c4cruiser's Avatar
c4cruiser
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Veteran: Army
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 34,873
Likes: 487
From: Lacey WA RVN 68-69
NCM Sinkhole Donor
Default

The two guide pin bolts are torqued to 23 ft-lbs. It's important that the threads on both the bolt and the female threads in the guide pin are clean and free of any old threadlocker.

While you can replace the bolts (match them at any Lowe's or Home Depot for size and grade) you can get replacement sets at any GM dealer. There are kits that include the bolt, rubber dust boot and guide pins and grease for the guide pins. These are common to most later GM cars. The bolts in the kits come with a threadlocker already applied. In your case with one bolt simply spinning, it sounds like somebody applied way too much torque to the bolt.

If you choose to reuse the existing bolts, clean the threads with a wire brush and apply some BLUE Loctite/Permatex to the threads and torque to spec. I keep some brass rifle cleaning brushes handy for cleaning female threads like in the guide pins. Brushes like .22, .38, and 12 gauge shotgun will cover a lot of female thread sizes

The large bolts that hold the caliper abutment bracket to the spindle can also be reused. Clean the threads and apply the same BLUE Loctite and torque to spec doing it in two steps (1st to 70 ft-lbs then to 125)
Reply
Old Nov 26, 2015 | 10:54 PM
  #10  
jim993's Avatar
jim993
Drifting
15 Year Member
Liked
Top Answer: 1
Top Answer: 3
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,862
Likes: 594
From: Prescott, Arizona
Default

The caliper guide pin will turn when you attempt to loosen the guide pin bolt unless you put another wrench on the guide pin hex by the dust boot.

Some aftermarket guide pins have just two flats instead of a hex.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To C5 Brake Caliper Bolt Fail





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:08 PM.