Thoughts on scraping with a lowered vehicle
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St. Jude Donor '13, '15
Thoughts on scraping with a lowered vehicle
I have a 2004 coupe that I have removed the front bolt completely and maxed out the rears. Finally sits perfect for me. But I have a slight annoyance...I scrape my front air dam when pulling out/backing in my driveway. I've lived with this for a year now, even trimming about an inch off the air dams and I have frame rail fangs installed. I did some testing today to see exactly how close I am and where I am hitting, both going out straight and at an angle. When the front wheels get to the curb gutter, the front end hits the street scrapping the air dam and getting VERY close to the frame rail fangs, but not touching. I can fit two fingers between the front fascia and the street at its worst point.
The reason all this is becoming important at this point, is because I bought a c5r front splitter and I don't want to damage it. Thinking maybe some fatt mamas may help, but will they really "lift" the front end to give me more clearance?
Or should I sacrifice some wheel gap look and add a rubber bushing back to the front end?
Not much I can do to the street and too much money to regrade a driveway at the moment. I've looked in the bridjit curb thing but very costly if it doesn't work.
I think maybe half an inch would be about all I need to prevent the current scrapping and give me extra peace of mind room for the front splitter.
What would you do?
The reason all this is becoming important at this point, is because I bought a c5r front splitter and I don't want to damage it. Thinking maybe some fatt mamas may help, but will they really "lift" the front end to give me more clearance?
Or should I sacrifice some wheel gap look and add a rubber bushing back to the front end?
Not much I can do to the street and too much money to regrade a driveway at the moment. I've looked in the bridjit curb thing but very costly if it doesn't work.
I think maybe half an inch would be about all I need to prevent the current scrapping and give me extra peace of mind room for the front splitter.
What would you do?
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Same Issue
I live at the bottom of a hill and had a "speed bump" put in by the township to stop rain water from coming in drive way.
My neighbor to my right lets me drive a cross my lawn to get to his drive in and out! Buy him a case a beer every year.
My neighbor to my right lets me drive a cross my lawn to get to his drive in and out! Buy him a case a beer every year.
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I'm looking at moving to a different house and one of my requirements is a driveway I can get in/out of without scraping
My current driveway I scrape everytime
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For me, the solution would be simple - I'd raise the car a little to give a bit more clearance to the air dam. I have the same problem. My drive is step right where the street meets the drive and even at stock height I still scrape a bit. Won't be lowering mine at all
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don't worry about it, the air damn is pretty much useless anyways, everyone who lowered scrapes the hell out of it , it is what it is
You will eventually scrape the underside of your car as well, its all part of the game
You will eventually scrape the underside of your car as well, its all part of the game
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Hey OP, the little flimsy pieces of rubber that hang off the bottom of your car are CRUCIAL to the performance of your vehicle, without them your car will overheat and burn itself up
Raise your car now, before you do any damage, I repeat, raise your car back to stock height before you do permanent damage
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ok, instead of taking the time to research it lets just have it your way
Hey OP, the little flimsy pieces of rubber that hang off the bottom of your car are CRUCIAL to the performance of your vehicle, without them your car will overheat and burn itself up
Raise your car now, before you do any damage, I repeat, raise your car back to stock height before you do permanent damage
Hey OP, the little flimsy pieces of rubber that hang off the bottom of your car are CRUCIAL to the performance of your vehicle, without them your car will overheat and burn itself up
Raise your car now, before you do any damage, I repeat, raise your car back to stock height before you do permanent damage
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To install my C5R front splitter, I had to remove the factory air dams.
The C5R front splitter lets the air go through the middle and at the back directs it up to the radiator. Basically produces the same results.
I would have to disagree on not running either, because there would be nothing directing air to the radiator.
As for your ride height, being as low as you are now, you're going to tear the heck out of your splitter. I am all the way down on my front bolts and i have 3 1/2 inches of clearance from my splitter to the ground. Any lower and your really asking for trouble. I have to be very aware at all times for road debris, and pulling in and out of parking lots (always at an angle).
I would like to be lower too, but it just isn't possible. Still looks much better than factory height though. IMO
The C5R front splitter lets the air go through the middle and at the back directs it up to the radiator. Basically produces the same results.
I would have to disagree on not running either, because there would be nothing directing air to the radiator.
As for your ride height, being as low as you are now, you're going to tear the heck out of your splitter. I am all the way down on my front bolts and i have 3 1/2 inches of clearance from my splitter to the ground. Any lower and your really asking for trouble. I have to be very aware at all times for road debris, and pulling in and out of parking lots (always at an angle).
I would like to be lower too, but it just isn't possible. Still looks much better than factory height though. IMO
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Hey *****, I base my disagreement with you on the FACT that many others here AGREE with ME and would DISAGREE with YOU. That's the research I've done. What research have you done to refute it, smart@ss? Furthermore, it just makes sense that, being a bottom breather because there's no front grille for air to flow through into the radiator, that something has to deflect air up and into the radiator. Does that even seem logical to you? Before putting your mouth into gear, maybe you should really first engage your brain, huh?
is it when your cruising down the street at 30-40-50 mph?
Is it when your flying down the highway ?
NO, its when your sitting dead at a stop light , or idling in traffic.
Do you think that air damn is doing anything at a dead stop to cool the engine, its not doing a damn thing.
Sure the air damn might "help" steer a little extra air there, maybe it will even cool the engine by 5 degrees or so, but people have taken it off, and they've noticed no real difference.
Like I said, do some research, many people have taken it off completely and its had ZERO affect on the engine temps.
I will be doing the same to mine come spring
By the way you seem to be spending a lot of time here in this thread, perhaps you should go back to being Cindys white knight in her car crash thread , you were really putting in a big effort there , wouldn't want to lose progress
glad for this sarcastic remark. it gives some credibility to my bite my tongue... clueless post... I hate it when clueless people offer advice that is completely contrary to the design of this engine and it very sensitive cooling system. So sensitive a very special oil additive for heat shear and saturation had to be formulated, and this guy wants to take the directional aid off the car.. Bottom feeders need all the help they can get... No fans after 35 mph.. so its grab and scoop only... Lastly I will say, Be very careful who you listen too here and. with that last suggestion, I'm going to put this guy on ignore. Trying to defend people from very bad advice has always been part of my reason for being here. But I just can't stand bad advice. I feel sorry for those who are Not careful who they listen too. IM happy not to have to read anymore of this guy's drivel. IM unhappy that he could do some real damage to an unsuspecting member.
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Whether its about wheels, tires, or the latest one....polishers, its the same **** retentive , "live by the text book-not in real life" drivel time and time again
So many times you've put your own foot in your mouth, and that's fine, we all make mistakes, the problem is your never man enough to admit it
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I mean the thing is on spring (center)...it's designed to get drug around, albeit only 1 way.
The sides flex; and you can buy all 3 for $100.
I'd make sure it can breathe no matter; but that's not really the OPs issue
The sides flex; and you can buy all 3 for $100.
I'd make sure it can breathe no matter; but that's not really the OPs issue
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When is the only time you notice your engine temps getting hot?
is it when your cruising down the street at 30-40-50 mph?
Is it when your flying down the highway ?
NO, its when your sitting dead at a stop light , or idling in traffic.
Do you think that air damn is doing anything at a dead stop to cool the engine, its not doing a damn thing.
Sure the air damn might "help" steer a little extra air there, maybe it will even cool the engine by 5 degrees or so, but people have taken it off, and they've noticed no real difference.
Like I said, do some research, many people have taken it off completely and its had ZERO affect on the engine temps.
I will be doing the same to mine come spring
By the way you seem to be spending a lot of time here in this thread, perhaps you should go back to being Cindys white knight in her car crash thread , you were really putting in a big effort there , wouldn't want to lose progress
Bill, you are so wrong in pretty much 75% of the threads you post in
Whether its about wheels, tires, or the latest one....polishers, its the same **** retentive , "live by the text book-not in real life" drivel time and time again
So many times you've put your own foot in your mouth, and that's fine, we all make mistakes, the problem is your never man enough to admit it
is it when your cruising down the street at 30-40-50 mph?
Is it when your flying down the highway ?
NO, its when your sitting dead at a stop light , or idling in traffic.
Do you think that air damn is doing anything at a dead stop to cool the engine, its not doing a damn thing.
Sure the air damn might "help" steer a little extra air there, maybe it will even cool the engine by 5 degrees or so, but people have taken it off, and they've noticed no real difference.
Like I said, do some research, many people have taken it off completely and its had ZERO affect on the engine temps.
I will be doing the same to mine come spring
By the way you seem to be spending a lot of time here in this thread, perhaps you should go back to being Cindys white knight in her car crash thread , you were really putting in a big effort there , wouldn't want to lose progress
Bill, you are so wrong in pretty much 75% of the threads you post in
Whether its about wheels, tires, or the latest one....polishers, its the same **** retentive , "live by the text book-not in real life" drivel time and time again
So many times you've put your own foot in your mouth, and that's fine, we all make mistakes, the problem is your never man enough to admit it
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Had my '04 lowered on the stock bolts. Scraped the front air dam a little but they're tough as nails. I was more worried about speed bumps. Going over those too fast made the bottom of the car hit. Hit too hard and you crack fiberglass.
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St. Jude Donor '13, '15
Thoughts on scraping with a lowered vehicle
Perhaps my original question was not clear enough. The air dam is annoying, but I've lived with it this long, so I can continue to do so if needed. But I'm adding a C5R splitter and don't want to break it. I think I'll just sacrife the "look" for peace of mind to save the splitter (and annoying sound of the air dam). Wad trying to get opinions on the frame wheels called fatt mammas, or other suggestions to get the car up a bit without changing the stance.
To those on here that understood the concern, thank you for your responses.
To those that just want to argue the value of the air dam, please exit stage left as you are offering nothing of value to my post.
To those on here that understood the concern, thank you for your responses.
To those that just want to argue the value of the air dam, please exit stage left as you are offering nothing of value to my post.
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To install my C5R front splitter, I had to remove the factory air dams.
The C5R front splitter lets the air go through the middle and at the back directs it up to the radiator. Basically produces the same results.
I would have to disagree on not running either, because there would be nothing directing air to the radiator.
As for your ride height, being as low as you are now, you're going to tear the heck out of your splitter. I am all the way down on my front bolts and i have 3 1/2 inches of clearance from my splitter to the ground. Any lower and your really asking for trouble. I have to be very aware at all times for road debris, and pulling in and out of parking lots (always at an angle).
I would like to be lower too, but it just isn't possible. Still looks much better than factory height though. IMO
The C5R front splitter lets the air go through the middle and at the back directs it up to the radiator. Basically produces the same results.
I would have to disagree on not running either, because there would be nothing directing air to the radiator.
As for your ride height, being as low as you are now, you're going to tear the heck out of your splitter. I am all the way down on my front bolts and i have 3 1/2 inches of clearance from my splitter to the ground. Any lower and your really asking for trouble. I have to be very aware at all times for road debris, and pulling in and out of parking lots (always at an angle).
I would like to be lower too, but it just isn't possible. Still looks much better than factory height though. IMO
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One of the issues I have seen repetitively is someone comes on here complaining about overheating after they have removed the center air dam...live and learn.