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you think it's bad in here, go to the z06 section
... I tend to agree but I don't mind as much when the vendors are active and willing to help people out with problems they are having or give their input on a particular subject... there are only a handful of vendors like that but more often than not they are the good ones to deal with that aren't just in it to make a quick buck... when the vendors only post for sale ads and bump them constantly all day long I tend to shy away from them... one thing I would like to see is a section for regular members only parts for sale and vendors have a completely separate section, that way they aren't all mixed up and you don't have to sort through all the advertising
... I tend to agree but I don't mind as much when the vendors are active and willing to help people out with problems they are having or give their input on a particular subject... there are only a handful of vendors like that but more often than not they are the good ones to deal with that aren't just in it to make a quick buck... when the vendors only post for sale ads and bump them constantly all day long I tend to shy away from them... one thing I would like to see is a section for regular members only parts for sale and vendors have a completely separate section, that way they aren't all mixed up and you don't have to sort through all the advertising
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I don't have any problem with the vendor ads or posts, this is the best auto forum I have come across for correct info and help. The ads support a great forum. Some of the forums and web sites flood the page with banners and pop up videos this one doesn't, so no problem for myself
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Melting Slicks
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One of the reasons this forum is so great is that fact that it cost a lot of money to run a forum of this caliber. Servers, bandwidth, technical support isn't free. Web design and upgrades are always evolving. WE need to support good vendors. But they should be running in the back ground, with an occasional sale post here and there. but not every 24 hours, and not bumping their own threads. IM not trying to make the rules, but identifying a problem.,... This thread is an opportunity for the admin to see it from our perspective.
This forum is the best automotive forum on the planet, because of the Vendors, and the community. The balance is becoming a bit skewed.
Thanks for your input and welcome to this forum.
Bill aka ET
This forum is the best automotive forum on the planet, because of the Vendors, and the community. The balance is becoming a bit skewed.
Thanks for your input and welcome to this forum.
Bill aka ET
That may be correct but this does NOT make or break a forum. I urge you to look at Benzworld.org Benzworld is a bigger forum, with more members, and more posts. And no, you will NOT see this type of spam there.
Vendors keeping this forum free for everybody else? No, THAT is just a smoke screen by the administration which is again echoed by the vendors. All false excuses to let this behavior continue. Like I said, Benzworld is bigger and is also FREE. Same with Titantalk, Acurazine, Clublexus. All free. No spam.
For God's sake, even the "for sale" forum has been corrupted. I have to bump my thread every single day..!
THIS is the ONLY forum I have seen with this problem.
Like I said before, the administration needs to BAN advertisements on all section and ONLY allow the vendors to post in the designated vendor area (LIKE IN OTHER FREE FORUMS) and if anyone is looking to buy something, then the member can go to the vendor section to look for it.
Also, the "BUMPS" should also be banned unless they are coming up with something new or there is a sale or a price drop. THAT is how it works on all other FREE forums that I am a member of.
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you think it's bad in here, go to the z06 section... I tend to agree but I don't mind as much when the vendors are active and willing to help people out with problems they are having or give their input on a particular subject... there are only a handful of vendors like that but more often than not they are the good ones to deal with that aren't just in it to make a quick buck... when the vendors only post for sale ads and bump them constantly all day long I tend to shy away from them... one thing I would like to see is a section for regular members only parts for sale and vendors have a completely separate section, that way they aren't all mixed up and you don't have to sort through all the advertising
... I tend to agree but I don't mind as much when the vendors are active and willing to help people out with problems they are having or give their input on a particular subject... there are only a handful of vendors like that but more often than not they are the good ones to deal with that aren't just in it to make a quick buck... when the vendors only post for sale ads and bump them constantly all day long I tend to shy away from them... one thing I would like to see is a section for regular members only parts for sale and vendors have a completely separate section, that way they aren't all mixed up and you don't have to sort through all the advertising
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Ideally, the vendors would stick to the sections specifically set aside for them to ply their wares.
At a minimum, I think vendor ads in non-vendor sections should be hidden from CF members who are paying members. You will probably see a significant rise in the number of paying members.
At a minimum, I think vendor ads in non-vendor sections should be hidden from CF members who are paying members. You will probably see a significant rise in the number of paying members.
Le Mans Master
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I agree, but these threads always get locked down, and fall on deaf ears. The $$$ rules.
The vendors have links along the side, and they have their own Vendor for Sale section.
If we post something that is not appropriate for the section, it gets locked and moved to the appropriate section, maybe they should do that with the vendor threads. It is obsessive when they post in every section, and bump it everyday.
Maybe we should all post threads in the Vendor section, since the vendors don't seem to want to use it...
NB4TL
The vendors have links along the side, and they have their own Vendor for Sale section.
If we post something that is not appropriate for the section, it gets locked and moved to the appropriate section, maybe they should do that with the vendor threads. It is obsessive when they post in every section, and bump it everyday.
Maybe we should all post threads in the Vendor section, since the vendors don't seem to want to use it...
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If you think 22 is bad, check out the c5 z06 page. Once it was 3/4 of the posts were vendor ads. I can't even bring myself to go on the c5z page much anymore, it's like watching a TV program with 45 minutes of commercials and 15 minutes of entertainment.
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St. Jude Donor '03-'04
All the points are valid - from both points of view.
I wonder if we can suggest a way of "wading" thru the adds. At my place of work, we have 200 employees and our email in box get overloaded quickly by those who want or have the need to post non-work related items, but it's critical to read everything so you can help others and get your work done. To solve this, we request that non-work related it begin with "NWR - " so we can skip them and come back later if we want.
I wonder if we can suggest a way of "wading" thru the adds. At my place of work, we have 200 employees and our email in box get overloaded quickly by those who want or have the need to post non-work related items, but it's critical to read everything so you can help others and get your work done. To solve this, we request that non-work related it begin with "NWR - " so we can skip them and come back later if we want.
Thank you everyone for keeping it civil.. I think the administration will look at this, and not gloss over this issue if you all just think about your comments, and not go off half cocked. Adding input that is valuable, and not hostile. We are all interested in coming to a great forum.. Both the members and the administration. That why this discussion in open forum is more valuable than a single private message from one guy to an administrator.
Bill aka ET
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Ideally, the vendors would stick to the sections specifically set aside for them to ply their wares.
At a minimum, I think vendor ads in non-vendor sections should be hidden from CF members who are paying members. You will probably see a significant rise in the number of paying members.
At a minimum, I think vendor ads in non-vendor sections should be hidden from CF members who are paying members. You will probably see a significant rise in the number of paying members.
Safety Car
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I don't go in there anymore either for the same reason.
Melting Slicks
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I ignore doing business with vendors that bump daily. I find the same product online by googling or through Amazon or even ebay but I will not buy from a vendor that spams. However I have done business with vendors who post up new stuff, new sales and not just bump their threads.
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St. Jude Donor '03-'04
It would be in the best interest of this thread if we focused on the problem , and not the solution. You guys all know this is a privately owned forum. Its a nice place for us to hang out, but its " Their Place " Please don't say without us, they don't have a their's.
I'm only identifying a trending issue. ( Vendor posting overload )and asking the admin to look at it. They know they need us, and so do the vendors... But let them decide how best to deal with this issue.
Bill aka ET
I'm only identifying a trending issue. ( Vendor posting overload )and asking the admin to look at it. They know they need us, and so do the vendors... But let them decide how best to deal with this issue.
Bill aka ET
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St. Jude Donor '03-'04
As a tenured Professional at having things go off the rails, and riding the rails of many train wrecks, I will be the first to ask the Admin to close this thread if its not conducted with respect to everyone. the issue: is there or is there not some concern for vendor over load ? its obvious many do not understand the role the vendors play here.
Bill aka ET
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St. Jude Donor '03-'04
People who come here and talk about how great it is in other forums should go there, and hang out there. That's hardly any way to get any respect for an issue that might be trending in a very negative way.
So please, no solutions or what they should do... comments. Both members and vendors could chime in here. This thread is for administrative consideration only. its their sand box.
Bill aka ET
So please, no solutions or what they should do... comments. Both members and vendors could chime in here. This thread is for administrative consideration only. its their sand box.
Bill aka ET
Melting Slicks
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It would be in the best interest of this thread if we focused on the problem , and not the solution. You guys all know this is a privately owned forum. Its a nice place for us to hang out, but its " Their Place " Please don't say without us, they don't have a their's.
I'm only identifying a trending issue. ( Vendor posting overload )and asking the admin to look at it. They know they need us, and so do the vendors... But let them decide how best to deal with this issue.
Bill aka ET
I'm only identifying a trending issue. ( Vendor posting overload )and asking the admin to look at it. They know they need us, and so do the vendors... But let them decide how best to deal with this issue.
Bill aka ET
We all believe that the problem exists. The problem is there. And whenever there is a problem, a solution must be also sought or discussed. I'm sure the administrators would also like our input as to the solutions as well. Whether they implement our solutions or not is in their hands.
Melting Slicks
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As I see the issue, either we accept the paying vendor’s ability to publish their ads in the General without restrictions, or we put restrictions on which may result in paying dues to belong to the web site. What would that cost each member?
Just a reminder, Ads allow newspapers/magazines to be in business at a reasonable cost. If no ads were allowed or even controlled, free TV would vanish.
I do not object to the vendors adds. If the topic is something I do not have an interest, I do not open. But I do visit many of the vendor’s web sites that show advertisement for stuff that I am not interested in because sometimes I find stuff I am interested in.
Just a thought, how about getting the vendors point of view on ET’s observation?
Just a reminder, Ads allow newspapers/magazines to be in business at a reasonable cost. If no ads were allowed or even controlled, free TV would vanish.
I do not object to the vendors adds. If the topic is something I do not have an interest, I do not open. But I do visit many of the vendor’s web sites that show advertisement for stuff that I am not interested in because sometimes I find stuff I am interested in.
Just a thought, how about getting the vendors point of view on ET’s observation?
Melting Slicks
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This thread as designed is NOT meant to be a whipping post for the administration or the Vendors. I asked that it remain civil, and without pointing fingers.. I asked that this thread be dedicated to what appears to be a trending problem.. vendor overload.
As a tenured Professional at having things go off the rails, and riding the rails of many train wrecks, I will be the first to ask the Admin to close this thread if its not conducted with respect to everyone. the issue: is there or is there not some concern for vendor over load ? its obvious many do not understand the role the vendors play here.
Bill aka ET
As a tenured Professional at having things go off the rails, and riding the rails of many train wrecks, I will be the first to ask the Admin to close this thread if its not conducted with respect to everyone. the issue: is there or is there not some concern for vendor over load ? its obvious many do not understand the role the vendors play here.
Bill aka ET
So if a problem exists, a solution must also be put forth. If you don't want to hear solutions as well, then I won't post any more solutions or ideas. As far as the over posting problem that you have addressed, we all already that this problem exists. I have seen several related threads shut down.
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I have noticed that when the forum posts certain things about the home page there is no reply button.
Perhaps when a hot new item comes out they (vendors)can be able to post it here without someone bumping it, and a link would send them over to the vendor section.
There they can continue any lengthy discussion?
And yes I have noticed the difference as tax returns roll in.
Good thread ET
Perhaps when a hot new item comes out they (vendors)can be able to post it here without someone bumping it, and a link would send them over to the vendor section.
There they can continue any lengthy discussion?
And yes I have noticed the difference as tax returns roll in.
Good thread ET