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we've been through this before
... it's a thing I don't need, just like front collision sensors and many other things cars come with nowadays... you and some others might like them and that's fine, personally I just don't need them... you say they save thousands of lives but I couldn't tell you how many people I've come in contact with that think their check engine light is on when it's just the low tire pressure light, I have a hard time seeing how it's saving someones life when the driver has no idea what it even is... people are just getting lazier and lazier and it's allowed in our society these days
... it's a thing I don't need, just like front collision sensors and many other things cars come with nowadays... you and some others might like them and that's fine, personally I just don't need them... you say they save thousands of lives but I couldn't tell you how many people I've come in contact with that think their check engine light is on when it's just the low tire pressure light, I have a hard time seeing how it's saving someones life when the driver has no idea what it even is... people are just getting lazier and lazier and it's allowed in our society these days
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I hope to pick up a 1999 C5 (First Corvette ever) this weekend. It does not have run flats. What should I carry in the car for road side tire emergencies?
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Z06 super car tires are 400 dollars... why would anyone Not want to know if their tire was losing air pressure before it got so low that you lost control. run a super car tire at 25 psi on a highway and lose air pressure slowly through 20 psi, and 15 psi, when you think the road is getting rough, then at 10 psi and the tire starts to super heat, you see piece of it flying off and you lose control... add a sensor.. and that nail allowed enough air to give you a warning at 25 psi before the pressure got so low as to destroy the tire and the wheel.. or worse yet destroy your car.
same scenario... don't wear your seat belt? you're a good driver, you don't need it. I tell everyone to get tire pressure sensors... and have a compressor... Allow a super car tire to go undetected at 2 am and it becomes toast and you are waiting for Bubba to wrap a cable around your car and drag it up on his flat bed when an 80 dollar sensor would have got you home without issue, and with your tire and wheel intact. There is no logical reason Not to have them. A heads up is always welcome in this area. Bad decision on Gm's part not to add them since the software was already there.. But those project mangers did not want to add to the budget, or increase the weight. Its also why the Z06 rear brake scoops look like they do. I know this from first hand knowledge, right before I left GM.
same scenario... don't wear your seat belt? you're a good driver, you don't need it. I tell everyone to get tire pressure sensors... and have a compressor... Allow a super car tire to go undetected at 2 am and it becomes toast and you are waiting for Bubba to wrap a cable around your car and drag it up on his flat bed when an 80 dollar sensor would have got you home without issue, and with your tire and wheel intact. There is no logical reason Not to have them. A heads up is always welcome in this area. Bad decision on Gm's part not to add them since the software was already there.. But those project mangers did not want to add to the budget, or increase the weight. Its also why the Z06 rear brake scoops look like they do. I know this from first hand knowledge, right before I left GM.
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Dumb question. Do the tire pressure monitor devices (TPMS) require that they all be the same manufacture when installed on the car? For example, if one goes out, must all 4 be changed at once? Are the ones on Ebay any good? Do they all program the same way, I am assuming they require some programming to pair them with the system once installed on the car, right?
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we've been through this before... it's a thing I don't need, just like front collision sensors and many other things cars come with nowadays... you and some others might like them and that's fine, personally I just don't need them... you say they save thousands of lives but I couldn't tell you how many people I've come in contact with that think their check engine light is on when it's just the low tire pressure light, I have a hard time seeing how it's saving someones life when the driver has no idea what it even is... people are just getting lazier and lazier and it's allowed in our society these days
... it's a thing I don't need, just like front collision sensors and many other things cars come with nowadays... you and some others might like them and that's fine, personally I just don't need them... you say they save thousands of lives but I couldn't tell you how many people I've come in contact with that think their check engine light is on when it's just the low tire pressure light, I have a hard time seeing how it's saving someones life when the driver has no idea what it even is... people are just getting lazier and lazier and it's allowed in our society these days
TPMS Can Save Lives
Most people ignore their tires, yet tires are undoubtedly
a critical safety component on a vehicle. Where the
rubber meets the road affects traction, handling, steering,
stability and braking. Because of this, a sudden tire
failure can have serious consequences, especially if it
occurs when operating at highway speeds.
• Nearly 250,000 accidents occur in the United States
per year due to low tire pressure.
• About 75 percent of roadside flats are preceded by a
slow leak or under inflation.
• According to a recent survey, America could reduce its
fuel consumption by 10 percent and save a collective
$2 billion a year by keeping tires properly inflated.
• A tire can lose up to half of its air pressure without
appearing to be under inflated.
• NHTSA estimates that tire pressure monitoring systems
could prevent as many as 79 deaths and 10,365
injuries each year in the United States.
Most people ignore their tires, yet tires are undoubtedly
a critical safety component on a vehicle. Where the
rubber meets the road affects traction, handling, steering,
stability and braking. Because of this, a sudden tire
failure can have serious consequences, especially if it
occurs when operating at highway speeds.
• Nearly 250,000 accidents occur in the United States
per year due to low tire pressure.
• About 75 percent of roadside flats are preceded by a
slow leak or under inflation.
• According to a recent survey, America could reduce its
fuel consumption by 10 percent and save a collective
$2 billion a year by keeping tires properly inflated.
• A tire can lose up to half of its air pressure without
appearing to be under inflated.
• NHTSA estimates that tire pressure monitoring systems
could prevent as many as 79 deaths and 10,365
injuries each year in the United States.
Drifting
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What year is your car?
The TPMS for 97 - 2000 cars are NOT the same as for 2001 - 2004 and cannot be interchanged.
Not all brands of TPMS program the same way and hence programming can often become problematic when you mix and match brands. The Schrader brand TPMS program using a magnet so any owner can program them . Other brands require letting air out and still others have proprietary tools that are needed.
If one TPMS fails it is pretty likely that the others will follow in short order. The battery in the TPMS has a life expectancy of 8 to 10 years. Some will last a little longer and others a little shorter.
TPMS for the 97 - 2000 are noteably more expensive than for the 2001 - 2004.
The procedure for programming the TPMS when they are the style that require the use of a magnet is as follows:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOM96f3Iy6E
I don't like to be surprised with how/if the TPMS need to be programmed so I pay a little more and get Schrader brand.... So you might want to be a little cautious of the TPMS you find on Ebay or that are super cheap.
As always YMMV.......
The TPMS for 97 - 2000 cars are NOT the same as for 2001 - 2004 and cannot be interchanged.
Not all brands of TPMS program the same way and hence programming can often become problematic when you mix and match brands. The Schrader brand TPMS program using a magnet so any owner can program them . Other brands require letting air out and still others have proprietary tools that are needed.
If one TPMS fails it is pretty likely that the others will follow in short order. The battery in the TPMS has a life expectancy of 8 to 10 years. Some will last a little longer and others a little shorter.
TPMS for the 97 - 2000 are noteably more expensive than for the 2001 - 2004.
The procedure for programming the TPMS when they are the style that require the use of a magnet is as follows:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOM96f3Iy6E
I don't like to be surprised with how/if the TPMS need to be programmed so I pay a little more and get Schrader brand.... So you might want to be a little cautious of the TPMS you find on Ebay or that are super cheap.
As always YMMV.......
I am currently shopping for a C5. I don't own one yet. I have been hanging around the forum learning and asking questions. I am aware that vettes have TPMs, but was not sure what you do if one of them fails. I am looking for a used (of course) C5. How would I know if all the TPMs are the same or completely mismatched for that matter? In the cars I have seen, the system says that the TPMs are working, but that is all the information you get (Yes/No?). There are no references as to their manufacturer or model type. at least as far as I know.
Last edited by gpruitt54; May 25, 2016 at 11:07 AM.
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I have seen the how to video. It is excellent.
I am currently shopping for a C5. I don't own one yet. I have been hanging around the forum learning and asking questions. I am aware that vettes have TPMs, but was not sure what you do if one of them fails. I am looking for a used (of course) C5. How would I know if all the TPMs are the same or completely mismatched for that matter? In the cars I have seen, the system says that the TPMs are working, but that is all the information you get (Yes/No?). There are no references as to their manufacturer or model type. at least as far as I know.
I am currently shopping for a C5. I don't own one yet. I have been hanging around the forum learning and asking questions. I am aware that vettes have TPMs, but was not sure what you do if one of them fails. I am looking for a used (of course) C5. How would I know if all the TPMs are the same or completely mismatched for that matter? In the cars I have seen, the system says that the TPMs are working, but that is all the information you get (Yes/No?). There are no references as to their manufacturer or model type. at least as far as I know.
http://www.cultragfactoryparts.com/c...ms-conversion/
It was not this costly back then but still expensive and I had a hard time deciding , my key Fobs looked like they went trough a war and in the end I like everything to work. Now the third summer with my car having no problems with the TPMS it was well spent money (for me)!!!!
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St. Jude Donor '03-'04
Today, all cars must have ( be manufactured with ) TPSM. it saves lives and fuel and prevents premature tire wear. Its a quick visual check to see how your tires are performing especially in very hot weather., I dotn want to see my expensive tires ex[pand in the heat of a 90+ day to allow thew tire to wear heavily in the center. I want my tires to run around 30 psi Hot. Hot is when they are actually working for your car, Cold means nothing. IN the summer I want to see 26/27 psi cold. when the tires are sitting still and cold and you are checking them, they are not doing any performance function. Wouldn't it be better to see their condition under actual road conditions.. a Black top road can get to 160F in the summer... the same summer day on a concrete road could be 30 degrees cooler. when the weather is in the 90's I'm more conscious of my tire pressure. summer time can show a degree fluctuation of as much as 30 degrees in 24 hours. I want my tires " tuned " for my driving habits. I wont argue this.. I've only posted this about 200 times.. take the logic and the wisdom and think about it..
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This raises a question for me. When you buy a new set of wheels. Does the wheel shop automatically or ask move the TPMs from the old wheels to the new ones? It is an obvious question, but for what it is worth, is it automatic, or will the shop get you to buy a new set of TPMs?
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This raises a question for me. When you buy a new set of wheels. Does the wheel shop automatically or ask move the TPMs from the old wheels to the new ones? It is an obvious question, but for what it is worth, is it automatic, or will the shop get you to buy a new set of TPMs?
Make sure you are both on the same page and everything should work out fine. It might not be automatic but they should not have a problem with installing the old TPMS.
When I bought new tires I brought my new TPMS sensors to the shop and they swapped them out with no charge.
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St. Jude Donor '03-'04
All factory TP sensors have a date stamp on them giving the month and year of manufacture, when replacing tires you can look at the date stamp. date stamp looks like a clock with numbers 1 to 12 and with a center pointer indicating the year and an arrow pointing to the month. IN this case .. the 12th month of 01
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I bought a Set of used TPM's off the Forum...took by the tire shop and the Guy tried to program them with some machine ...i told Him that my car was done by the Magnet....he could not get any to program ...I broke down and ordered 4 new ones from Tire Rack.. 42.00 each for my 02 and ordered the Magnet to program them..they installed in my wheels for 40 bucks came home and programmed myself...everything works Great..
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When I bought my 99 coupe in May of 2014 one of the things that didn't work was the TPMS and I read about how much the sensors cost for the older years and decided on replacing the whole system with this kit.
http://www.cultragfactoryparts.com/c...ms-conversion/
It was not this costly back then but still expensive and I had a hard time deciding , my key Fobs looked like they went trough a war and in the end I like everything to work. Now the third summer with my car having no problems with the TPMS it was well spent money (for me)!!!!
http://www.cultragfactoryparts.com/c...ms-conversion/
It was not this costly back then but still expensive and I had a hard time deciding , my key Fobs looked like they went trough a war and in the end I like everything to work. Now the third summer with my car having no problems with the TPMS it was well spent money (for me)!!!!