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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 06:31 AM
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You either motivated me or reminded me about cleaning yesterday. After your post on Simple Green, went out in the garage and did the quads...the exhaust gets them black. Then hit them with chrome polish.
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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 01:43 PM
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I dilute it heavily and use it in the interior. Sometimes I mix a few other things in it as well. The diluted simple green combined with a boar's hair brush and a microfiber towel can make the interior as good as new. I've used it around the car in other areas too, usually in a little stronger ratio, but still diluted some.
In other news, Kinforest tires?
they exist!!!
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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 04:44 PM
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they exist!!!
Lol if you read above they are apparently just as good as michelins.
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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 07:41 PM
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Nice, I got mine at Canadian tire
I need to run down to my local Canadian Tire I guess?
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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 09:18 PM
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Lol if you read above they are apparently just as good as michelins.
Yes cause we all know unless you get name brand tires you spin out on every corner and cant get over 50mph without them blowing apart from the pressure

Someone forgot to inform black02 that Michelin tires are also made in China

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I need to run down to my local Canadian Tire I guess?
lol bet you got a ton of them close by huh
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Old Aug 3, 2016 | 09:51 PM
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Yes cause we all know unless you get name brand tires you spin out on every corner and cant get over 50mph without them blowing apart from the pressure

Someone forgot to inform black02 that Michelin tires are also made in China
You are quite the simple fellow aren't you? Yes, they do make some tires there, but you write it like they make ALL tires there, which simply isn't the truth. While I wouldn't want Chinese made stuff, I would trust factories that have quality control ran buy a major company like Michelin over those that were "sued out of business for copying" as you so eloquently put it.

As of 1 September 2008, Michelin is again the world's largest tire manufacturer after spending two years as number two behind Bridgestone. Michelin produces tires in France, Spain, Germany, the USA, the UK, Canada, Brazil, Thailand, Japan, Italy and several other countries.
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Old Aug 4, 2016 | 12:46 AM
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You are quite the simple fellow aren't you? Yes, they do make some tires there, but you write it like they make ALL tires there, which simply isn't the truth. While I wouldn't want Chinese made stuff, I would trust factories that have quality control ran buy a major company like Michelin over those that were "sued out of business for copying" as you so eloquently put it.
All tires made in china have to pass STRICT quality control and strict government regulations before being sold here, not just Michelins

Most of the large name tire companies have factories in china, theres a very good chance the tires you are using now were built in china ..or Indonesia, or Vietnam...etc.....

Get off your high horse man
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Old Aug 4, 2016 | 05:09 AM
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The Michelin size that corvette owners would use are made in the USA or Canada. There is a Michelin plant in China, but they only produce 15-17 inch passenger car tires.
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Michelin has factories all over the world, and generally speaking, each factory supplies that sector of the world. You would probably be pretty hard pressed to find a china manufactured Michelin tire here in the states. There's.......3 or 4 plants alone in SC and NC not to mention it's owned companies elsewhere in the States. I can FACTUALLY say that not all tires are created equal when speaking of imports coming from China. You big name companies with factories over there are building them to those companies standards. The China companies, they cut corners. I've seen it first hand. You do get what you pay for.

Back to topic........Simple Green is good stuff. I'm not sure if they changed the formulation or not but back in the day they used to caution about letting it sit on aluminum too long because it would eat away at it. Just something to consider if hosing down the engine bay at full strength should you get distracted and let it sit a while or forget about it.
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I will be trying this on my wheel well/suspension area, I was looking for a safe cleaner to use and this seems to fit the bill.
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Originally Posted by 1Willy1
All tires made in china have to pass STRICT quality control and strict government regulations before being sold here, not just Michelins

Most of the large name tire companies have factories in china, theres a very good chance the tires you are using now were built in china ..or Indonesia, or Vietnam...etc.....

Get off your high horse man
at everything in China being made to strict quality control due to governmental regulations

No, my tires weren't made in any of the countries you listed, sorry. Few sets are Korean and others are from Japan. Not sure where my P Zeros were made, but don't feel like looking to be honest.

I'm not trying to be rude, but you really need to learn the difference between being cheap and getting a good deal. A low price for a piece of garbage leaves you with a piece of garbage you didn't pay much money for while a good deal on a quality object is just that, a good deal. You are equating being cheap with getting a good deal and it just isn't the case. You have a very nice Z06 with some good mods, why destroy the ride, handling and traction by putting hilariously cheap China made tires on it?

A wise person once said, never cheap out on anything that separates you from the earth. This would include mattresses, shoes and tires.
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Old Aug 4, 2016 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Fastbird
Michelin has factories all over the world, and generally speaking, each factory supplies that sector of the world. You would probably be pretty hard pressed to find a china manufactured Michelin tire here in the states. There's.......3 or 4 plants alone in SC and NC not to mention it's owned companies elsewhere in the States. I can FACTUALLY say that not all tires are created equal when speaking of imports coming from China. You big name companies with factories over there are building them to those companies standards. The China companies, they cut corners. I've seen it first hand. You do get what you pay for.

Back to topic........Simple Green is good stuff. I'm not sure if they changed the formulation or not but back in the day they used to caution about letting it sit on aluminum too long because it would eat away at it. Just something to consider if hosing down the engine bay at full strength should you get distracted and let it sit a while or forget about it.
Yea the aluminum thing was worrisome to me that's why im going to get the Simple Green Pro HD, apparently its even stronger ans is safe for aluminum, its purple in color and not green.

With regards to the tires, will they beat the name brand tires in the tests and trials ...no they wont...but they still have to pass our government regulations and testing so they aren't as bad as some people would like to think.

For my kind of driving and cruising they are perfectly fine, the lower end tires usually do the worst in rain and snow, that's where they get the worst ratings.

I don't drive my vette in the rain or snow, I don't take it to the track, I don't race or enter compititions, so really these are fine for me.

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I will be trying this on my wheel well/suspension area, I was looking for a safe cleaner to use and this seems to fit the bill.
That's exactyly my plan as well, the inner wheel wells , and eventually under the car when I have access to a lift


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at everything in China being made to strict quality control due to governmental regulations

No, my tires weren't made in any of the countries you listed, sorry. Few sets are Korean and others are from Japan. Not sure where my P Zeros were made, but don't feel like looking to be honest.

I'm not trying to be rude, but you really need to learn the difference between being cheap and getting a good deal. A low price for a piece of garbage leaves you with a piece of garbage you didn't pay much money for while a good deal on a quality object is just that, a good deal. You are equating being cheap with getting a good deal and it just isn't the case. You have a very nice Z06 with some good mods, why destroy the ride, handling and traction by putting hilariously cheap China made tires on it?

A wise person once said, never cheap out on anything that separates you from the earth. This would include mattresses, shoes and tires.
Black if the tires made in china were "pieces of garbage" then your government wouldn't of allowed them to be sold here and used on public roads, period.

They all go through the same testing, and where they usually fall short is in wet weather, rain and snow, but still perform well enough to pass government regulations.

Im not saying they are better then the big name brands, they are NOT, but drive both back to back and I bet you cant notice any difference.

I have 4 brand new Michelins sitting here, well 2 now because 2 just got sold , and the only reason im going to put them on is because they have a larger sidewall, not because they will make my car go faster or because I will notice any performance gains whatsoever.

LOL @ destroying the ride quality, performance and handling .... you need to get real man
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Heres a perfect example, these are my set of bridgestone potenzas, MADE IN JAPAN, with a build date code of 2010 , 6 years old now.

They hold air, have about 80% tread or more, were barely used, but ive recently noticed they are cracked all over the place and essentially worthless and unuseable. (although I still find the odd use for them from time to time)

They have not seen winter use, not seen much rain, they just seem to have fallen apart over the period of 5+ years or so ......

Ive had similar cracking issues with Pirellis, as well as inner bead issues.

One of the best tires ive had are Kuhmos, which are low to mid grade Korean ,they last long, good tread and had no issues long term.

It comes down to whether or not you are tracking your car or not, if you are...then go ahead and get the right tires ....if you are like me and just use your car to cruise around in......then at the end of the day tires are tires, which brand isn't going to make much difference
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LOL @ destroying the ride quality, performance and handling .... you need to get real man
Do I? If you don't understand the huge impact tires have on the performance and feel of a car, then perhaps I've been giving you too much credit in the past. On performance vehicles, the right tire can make all of the difference in the world. Why do you think some manufacturers were complaining that the Z07 package Corvette was "cheating" in tests because of the tires installed? If you can't tell the difference between a good tire and a bad tire on a supercharged Z06, perhaps you should go back to the Lexus stance world from which you came.
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Originally Posted by 1Willy1
Heres a perfect example, these are my set of bridgestone potenzas, MADE IN JAPAN, with a build date code of 2010 , 6 years old now.

They hold air, have about 80% tread or more, were barely used, but ive recently noticed they are cracked all over the place and essentially worthless and unuseable. (although I still find the odd use for them from time to time)

They have not seen winter use, not seen much rain, they just seem to have fallen apart over the period of 5+ years or so ......
Wow. Those look awful for how little they've been used judging by the tread depth.
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Wow, this thread sure got off topic.

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Do I? If you don't understand the huge impact tires have on the performance and feel of a car, then perhaps I've been giving you too much credit in the past. On performance vehicles, the right tire can make all of the difference in the world. Why do you think some manufacturers were complaining that the Z07 package Corvette was "cheating" in tests because of the tires installed? If you can't tell the difference between a good tire and a bad tire on a supercharged Z06, perhaps you should go back to the Lexus stance world from which you came.
Ive ran on all sorts of different tires ,Michelins, Pirelli, Bridgestone, Goodyear(currently on my Lexus) and no ive noticed zero difference in any of them ..why ? Because I don't track my car and I don't push the car to the limits on city roads.

Ive also ran nankangs, diamondbacks, triangles , and now kinforest ( all Chinese brands) and ive had ZERO issues with any of them

Go ask your bimmer pals on the german forums, half of them are running nankangs or triangles, but I guarantee you if I search your posts from those sites I would see you following along with their choice, nodding your head in agreement

And its funny you mention stance again, when you've admitted in the past you tried to stance out your little german bimmer, HAHAHAHAH
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Wow. Those look awful for how little they've been used judging by the tread depth.
Yea its horrible man, big disappointment

Not like they sat outside or anything either
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Ive ran on all sorts of different tires ,Michelins, Pirelli, Bridgestone, Goodyear(currently on my Lexus) and no ive noticed zero difference in any of them ..why ? Because I don't track my car and I don't push the car to the limits on city roads.

Ive also ran nankangs, diamondbacks, triangles , and now kinforest ( all Chinese brands) and ive had ZERO issues with any of them

Go ask your bimmer pals on the german forums, half of them are running nankangs or triangles, but I guarantee you if I search your posts from those sites I would see you following along with their choice, nodding your head in agreement

And its funny you mention stance again, when you've admitted in the past you tried to stance out your little german bimmer, HAHAHAHAH
Funny that you are defending China tires so passionately yet go out of your way to bash China made rep wheels at any chance you are given. Hypocrite much?

Not sure where you're getting the idea that most BMW owners run garbage tires, but whatever, you're obviously clueless. Trying to debate with you is no more productive than trying to teach my dogs English. The only difference is that the dogs at least look cute while not understanding a word that I'm saying.
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Funny that you are defending China tires so passionately yet go out of your way to bash China made rep wheels at any chance you are given. Hypocrite much?

Not sure where you're getting the idea that most BMW owners run garbage tires, but whatever, you're obviously clueless. Trying to debate with you is no more productive than trying to teach my dogs English. The only difference is that the dogs at least look cute while not understanding a word that I'm saying.
lol, yea all those 3 series guys running the best of everything , the Honda of Europe

And I might be defending china tires but im not promoting them , they are a cheaper , decent alternative if you are on a budget, that's all

They are a wear and tear item that have never given me any issues

If china started making high quality 3 piece forged wheels id probably lay off them a bit more

Anyways this is a simple green thread, not the black02 venting his anger and insecurities thread, so why don't you go take your stanced out bmw for spin or something
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