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Old Sep 8, 2016 | 10:56 PM
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Default Pull key, wait ten seconds - Service Column Lock

This is obviously a very popular C5 discussion topic, but mine has a twist to it. After dealing with the DIC reading the above after numerous resets, removing the battery ground cable for several hours and also removing a ten amp fuse (#25) from the fuse panel next to the BCM located in the passenger floor board and STILL receiving the same DIC reading, Service Column Lock, I called to have my '98 towed. When the tow truck arrived several hours later, I started the car, and low and behold, the DIC was clear - showed my milage and acted as if nothing had happened. What kind of Corvette gremlins are running around in my Silver Bullet?????
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The best information that I received when dealing with my problem is that you can actually "snap" the steering wheel free , which might give you the ability to drive your car IF you don't have the "2 mph fuel shut off"

Aside from that yes, gte the module 8Vette8 mentioned, he helped me a lot when I was having my issue as well
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Old Sep 8, 2016 | 11:27 PM
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The C-5 Corvette is doing what its supposed to do ,lose Batt cable weak Batt. did not like the way the key went in the cylinder worn key and on and on . Do yourself a big favor LMC5 well worth the few bucks and very easy to install .. This is one you don't try to figure out .Just do it.
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Old Sep 8, 2016 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by radar502
The C-5 Corvette is doing what its supposed to do ,lose Batt cable weak Batt. did not like the way the key went in the cylinder worn key and on and on . Do yourself a big favor LMC5 well worth the few bucks and very easy to install .. This is one you don't try to figure out .Just do it.
Thank you for the input - Optima Red Top, supposedly still good after load test and I did purchase the LMC5 ($60 with 2 day delivery-Saturday) obviously not one I can figure out 😀👍
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Old Sep 8, 2016 | 11:51 PM
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Thanks to all for the help - Wyoming Corvette - that translates to, " I get to drive my 'vette 3 months a year - June, July and August ��
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Originally Posted by nylben
This is obviously a very popular C5 discussion topic, but mine has a twist to it.
Yes, the twist is that you are aware of the gazillion threads regarding this issue, yet you don't have any type of column lock bypass installed. How much did that tow cost you? All the CLB kits are under $60.
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Unscrew the driver side kick panel and unplug the column lock connector looking for corrosion.

Hopefully when u pulled the bcm fuses the power was on and when u installed the the key was pulled....

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Originally Posted by FYRARMS
Yes, the twist is that you are aware of the gazillion threads regarding this issue, yet you don't have any type of column lock bypass installed. How much did that tow cost you? All the CLB kits are under $60.
Zippo - insurance covered the tow and now I've got the info I need to correct the problem👍😀
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Originally Posted by nylben
Zippo - insurance covered the tow and now I've got the info I need to correct the problem👍😀
I owned a z06 where the recall (canadian gm recall) was completed - and i still got stuck
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Really wasn't aware of the "gazillion" threads until I actually experienced the problem - ask me anything regarding turbo diesel and I think I can give an intelligent response - please forgive a snowbird with a 'vette that doesn't have the day to day knowledge that I can get here - ps - that's why I'm here!!!!
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Originally Posted by nylben
Thank you for the input - Optima Red Top, supposedly still good after load test and I did purchase the LMC5 ($60 with 2 day delivery-Saturday) obviously not one I can figure out 😀👍
I have an AGM battery with 120 RM (reserve minutes), plus an LMC5 and I am able to drive my car regularly year round so I don't have that issue.

Your Corvette needs a battery with at least 120 RM (reserve minutes). I believe that your Optimum Red Top has only 90 RM. That along with how little you use your car are the root causes of your problem. Keep your battery on a Battery Tender or equivalent. Also, check your grounds.
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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
A weak or bad battery or loose or corroded battery cable including at the starter....

Suggest that you get your self an LMC5 and install it BEFORE you get stranded by the column lock symptoms.


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Originally Posted by Mike98SilVert
I have an AGM battery with 120 RM (reserve minutes), plus an LMC5 and I am able to drive my car regularly year round so I don't have that issue.

Your Corvette needs a battery with at least 120 RM (reserve minutes). I believe that your Optimum Red Top has only 90 RM. That along with how little you use your car are the root causes of your problem. Keep your battery on a Battery Tender or equivalent. Also, check your grounds.
Thanks for the input !!
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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
Battery issues are the MOST COMMON cause of the column lock symptoms. The battery can load test fine but if the voltage measured across the battery posts at engine crank time using a digital multi meter is 12.5 volts or less, the factory column lock system is going to fail. The column lock system runs BEFORE the engine is started so having voltage once the engine is running and the alternator producing voltage is TOO LATE.

Car will start with 12.2 volts or less but the column lock system is NOT going to be happy. Most shops that load test the battery want the battery charged but often do not FULLY charge the battery before testing. A good battery at full charge will measure 12.7 to 12.9 volts or more.

You mentioned that the DIC showed the mileage when the tow truck arrived. Was the display something other than mileage BEFORE the column lock incident??? If yes then cranking of the engine caused the voltage to drop low enough for the default display to come up. Default display is mileage. That would be an indication that the battery was pretty low on charge. That would cause the column lock message to occur.

As has been suggested above keep the battery on a battery tender device when the car is not driven for more than a few days. I would FULLY charge the battery, measure the voltage at full charge, then let the car sit a day or so and measure the voltage again. If it has dropped to 12.5 volts or less then EITHER the battery has a problem or you may have a parasitic battery drain. C5 is fairly well know for that trait....

Post back the results.
Thanks for the input - looks like it's time for a new battery!!
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Originally Posted by nylben
Thanks for the input - looks like it's time for a new battery!!
Am I missing something here. Didn't you say your getting a LMC5 tomorrow? I, like many others here have installed the LMC5 and the service column issue has never happen again. I also installed the "brown" wire for extra insurance.

I would try the LMC5 install first, since you already spent $60, before you purchase a new battery.

Good luck.
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The LMC5 was one of the first things I did on my car. Then I installed it wrong and lucky it doesn't do anything bad if you do. The phone support for my stupidity was amazing. Works awesome.
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Had 3 black C5s and 2 Blue..Guess which 2 went bad...just ordered another LMC5 as my Nassau Blue chit the bed. DOH

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Mine got stranded 1/2 way through the garage door, on a Friday evening at 8:00 with a car show on Saturday morning. I had ordered the LMC5 but had not installed it. Luckily, I am in Florida and Compliance is out west and where still open and taking calls. They walked me through the install and walked me through unlocking the column, with a hammer and large screw driver. Would have really sucked if I were not at home. I still get the pull key message because I did not do the brown wire at that time, but no column lock. Brown wire mod tomorrow. Get the LMC5 now.
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Take it to the dealer and have them perform the recall.
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