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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 06:53 AM
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Vehicle not starting. The 2002 pic in forum don't match the 2003.
Could the TDR be included in the the BCM?
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 04:40 PM
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Excuse the ignorance, but what does TDR stand for?
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Thanks for clarifying what TDR stands for. Hey, I know enough to perhaps be dangerous , but certainly don't know everything about the cars.
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I thought I knew everything about my car and I'm the only one who repairs anything on it that it needs, including replacing my clutch myself. I didn't recognize TDR either.
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Old Oct 20, 2016 | 07:46 AM
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We are trying to solve the no starting situation before just changing
Parts. Locating the TDR has been a problem on our 2003. We will look
At the wiring this week to locate it.
When we first tried it the engine would fire and stop. Now it won't even fire.
Will also check the fuel pressure to eliminate a fuel pump problem, but I think it
Is related to the thief controls.
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Old Oct 20, 2016 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
Jack,


I am surprised that you did not recognize the acronym for Theft Deterrent Relay............... ie the relay that is enabled by the BCM when the pellet on the key is correctly read allowing power to flow to the starter solenoid so you can start the car.
I didn't know ether
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Old Oct 20, 2016 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
If it does not fire at all, what is the status of the security light on the dash when the key is left in the ON position after trying to crank the engine?? ON solid?? OUT?? Blinks??

Also if the security feature is the cause of the NO CRANK then there should be one or more codes set. What are the codes that are stored?


If you have never pulled codes before here is how:

Here is how to pull and post codes:

https://youtu.be/SviRjIsy9G4

Thank you for your reply.


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http://www.c5forum.com/ayc/dtcdic.php


Post ALL your codes including the H or C or HC that follows each 5 character code. If you have any Unnnn codes then list the sensor under which the Unnnn code appears. For example 28-TCS U1016.


The same Unnnn codes can appear under multiple sensors and it is helpful to know which sensor the Unnnn code is associated with.



Is the car a manual trans or automatic?
Thanks for the help. Car is automatic. Security light goes out, doesn't stay on.
Codes as u instructed are:
SDM U1096H, U1000H, U1016h
LDCM U1064H
RDCM U1064H, U1016H

Electronics confuses me.
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Old Oct 20, 2016 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
Did any of your sensors report NO COMM????


SDM is Sensing and Diagnostics module (air bag), LDCM is Left Door Control Module and RDCM is Right Door Control Module. All the Uxxx codes are loss of communications but none of the ones you posted are related to a NO START problem.

Most often when the TDR is involved in a NO START there will either be PCM or BCM codes set or the Security light will remain on. I doubt the TDR is the cause of your No Start. More likely it is related to the Starter Solenoid a well known fail point on the C5. You can try using a broom handle with one end placed on the starter body (NOT the solenoid) and have a helper hold the key in the start position while you solidly hit the other end of the broom handle with a 3lb hammer. May take several hits.. NO LOVE TAPS!! Solid blows to the handle..... If the car immediately starts the starter or solenoid is the problem.
Thanks again. The car turns over easily but not fired. It seems to me that it might be the fuel pump.
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Originally Posted by Vetteman Jack
Excuse the ignorance, but what does TDR stand for?
Jack, like you, I did not know what the abbreviation stood for. Just added the definition to my list for future reference.
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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
I guess I misunderstood your symptoms. I thought it would not crank but apparently it is cranks but will not run.



Has to be either fuel or spark if it cranks but will not run. NONE of the codes you listed are related to a crank but will not run. And it absolutely cannot be the TDR. The security feature on the C5 prevents the car from cranking.

Put a fuel pressure gauge on the fuel system and report back what the pressure is. Should be about 58 lbs with the key in the ON position.
No fuel pressure. Still trying to find TDR. Dealer gave me 12177233, but have not found it but there is a relay by passenger feet 12177234 & another one in the eng. compartment fuse block 12177235.
12177234 has purple, orange & 2yellow wires.
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Thanks to all who responded. Problem solved. Purchased a TDR at local dealer, installed it.
Still not start. It was located just above the BCM in the foot well.
Since it didn't start I went to check the fuse under the hood and found it to be ok. I
Noticed the Fuel pump Relay was the same number as others in the fuse box, so
I switched one with the same numbe (8567). Hooray the car start right up. Just Need to buy
A new relay!

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Originally Posted by Corvette Carl
Thanks to all who responded. Problem solved. Purchased a TDR at local dealer, installed it.
Still not start. It was located just above the BCM in the foot well.
Since it didn't start I went to check the fuse under the hood and found it to be ok. I
Noticed the Fuel pump Relay was the same number as others in the fuse box, so
I switched one with the same numbe (8567). Hooray the car start right up. Just Need to buy
A new relay!
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