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Old Nov 26, 2016 | 11:19 PM
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Old Nov 26, 2016 | 11:27 PM
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Mine does the samething
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Old Nov 26, 2016 | 11:32 PM
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Fun, isn't it
Yep,but I bet it scared the crap out of you the first time you did it
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Old Nov 26, 2016 | 11:35 PM
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Yep,but I bet it scared the crap out of you the first time you did it
Yes it did, was passing someone too. I've had the car over 3 yrs, still don't know just how quick it could be, can't launch the dang thing without spinning. I've been told it's got a different torque converter and possibly head work, but it's never been confirmed.
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Old Nov 26, 2016 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jcnoe
My 2000 A4 couple, when punched from 25-35MPH will downshift and break traction so quickly that it will ping the rev limiter before upshifting, and this is with traction control turned on. Previously I was running 2004 Z06 commemerative edition polished wheels with Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sport tires. I'm currently running stock C5 size wheels (2013 CUP wheel replicas in stock C5 coupe size, have also seen same style wheel on a C7 GS) with Continental Extreme Contact DWS06 tires. Other than full exhaust, I'm unsure of other modifications done to the car, as I never met the previous owner. Is this at all common for an automatic C5?

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I'm going to say no that's not normal. Mine with an A4 and a z51 package, which of course means the 3.15 gears, would break traction somewhat but it wasn't like it's just completely would ignite the tires or anything. I have since switched the car to an M6 and put a different engine in and it now has considerably more horsepower and torque. Now even up through 3rd gear when it's cold outside I need to be especially careful, even rolling very smoothly into the throttle anything over half throttle in 3rd gear could mean you're breaking the tires loose. The tires I'm running are stock size BF Goodrich comp ta something or others. At the time I bought them (2012) they were the number one rated Tire on the tire rack for traction. It's not that they're not sticky, but especially now with the roads at 40 degrees Fahrenheit it's a challenge to keep them hooked up. It's downright dangerous. I would not let someone else drive the car.
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Old Nov 27, 2016 | 07:24 AM
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interesting , i've ''punched'' wifes vettes a couple of times and wasn't particularly impressed . never heard a tire squeal and that is fine .
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Old Nov 27, 2016 | 08:05 AM
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Traction control is designed to stop excessive spin, hence the name. If you have excessive spin when T/C engaged then it isn't working properly, regardless of hp

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Old Nov 27, 2016 | 08:58 AM
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I just bought my stock 2000 A4 with the 2.73 gears this summer. Only one time over the summer could I get the wheels to spin at all. With the drop in temperature, it spins every time you punch it from a stop. Not a huge amount of spin, just some. Then again, when it starts spinning, I let off the gas to let it gain traction. Stock sized (P245 in front and P275 in rear) Hankook tires.
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Originally Posted by jcnoe
My 2000 A4 couple, when punched from 25-35MPH will downshift and break traction so quickly that it will ping the rev limiter before upshifting, and this is with traction control turned on. Previously I was running 2004 Z06 commemerative edition polished wheels with Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sport tires. I'm currently running stock C5 size wheels (2013 CUP wheel replicas in stock C5 coupe size, have also seen same style wheel on a C7 GS) with Continental Extreme Contact DWS06 tires. Other than full exhaust, I'm unsure of other modifications done to the car, as I never met the previous owner. Is this at all common for an automatic C5?

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Are you sure the tires are spinning and the engine isn't just revving under no load?
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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
You want to be careful in causing the rears to spin. If you induce wheel hop while spinning the tires you will cause damage if you do this often. Wheel hop puts undue stress on the differential and transmission and can/does break parts. Also you pretty much need to turn OFF TC to get the rears to spin since the purpose of TC is to sense spinning and take actions ( back out timing and throttle and apply brakes) to stop the spinning. All year C came with TC. But Active Handling (AH) was an option (JL4) that was available on mid year 98 through 2000. It became a standard feature on the C5 in 2001.
Mine has active handling, I leave it and TC engaged and still have excessive wheel spin. I also have the 3:15 differential. TC will be flashing saying it's active, but I still ping off the rev limiter if I'm too aggressive on the throttle.
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Originally Posted by JR-01
Are you sure the tires are spinning and the engine isn't just revving under no load?
Postive, even while spinning it's still steady pulling and gaining speed, just have to keep the rear from stepping out at times, keep the car going straight.
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Old Nov 27, 2016 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jcnoe
Mine has active handling, I leave it and TC engaged and still have excessive wheel spin. I also have the 3:15 differential. TC will be flashing saying it's active, but I still ping off the rev limiter if I'm too aggressive on the throttle.
If this is happening, regardless of what your dash says, there is an issue with you system. Burying the tach and or excessive spin shouldn't be happening with the system engaged. turn it off... what happens?
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Postive, even while spinning it's still steady pulling and gaining speed, just have to keep the rear from stepping out at times, keep the car going straight.
You do know spinning results in less pulling and diminished speed.

You can't have all 3.
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Old Nov 27, 2016 | 06:31 PM
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My 04 Commemorative will spin just a chip then traction control takes over. If I take T/C off I think it could burn the tires to the rims. I think you should have your traction control checked. Maybe previous owner made some kinda change.
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