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Old Jan 2, 2017 | 09:36 PM
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Time for exhaust work. My stock 2000 vert has baffles loose in one of the mufflers. I've been wanting a beefier sound, and am looking at the Magnlaflow street series 16732 or maybe the Corsa Extreme 14132. I had Flowmasters on my Tundra, and after the 2nd time the baffles came loose, I swore off of them. I do not want too aggressive, but if I am going to do this, I want something that sounds much better than stock. Will I get drone at highway speeds and/or deceleration popping with either of these if I just go with the axle back, or will I need to go cat back with x-pipe. Again, I am stock and do not have upgrade plans. I have read many posts, and from what I can determine, I do not want to go as loud or aggressive as Borla or Billy boat. Please, any input would be greatly appreciated.


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Many here use the term catback and axle back as the same - it includes the pipes over the axle and the mufflers.

With the Corsa system, you will not have any drone even without an x-pipe. However, the Extremes will be loud. If you decide on the Corsas, you may want to consider something like the Sport.
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Old Jan 2, 2017 | 09:48 PM
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Do not want real loud. Is the Corsa sport louder than the Magnaflow street series
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Loud is very subjective. the only way you could know for sure is if you use your own receiver ( ears ) to determine the pressure effects under driving conditions. What some thinks is loud, someone else might think it tame.
With Corsa there is no fear of drone at any rpm level. Corsa is my recommendation. Corsa sport is my recommendation, but my taste might be very different from yours. The extremes are louder than I would want on a long term basis. They are great for the initial purchase but can get old , Few people with them would say that. I have the sports, have had them for 15 years no drone and sound perfect for my taste. I could sell my Corsa sports tomorrow for 800 dollars and buy any thing I want... But there is nothing sweeter for my taste.

My point to this is no one can tell you what you like or what you can expect. They can only tell you of their experience and what their ear can feel.
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Old Jan 2, 2017 | 10:23 PM
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2000 Corvette here. All stock except for Corsa Xtreme axle-back only 4.0" tip exhaust. I have the stock H-pipe...no X pipe.

No drone at all. Like none whatsoever. I have an automatic transmission and below 2,500 (or so) rpms I honestly think the exhaust is as quiet as the stock exhaust. Above 3,000 rpms it's loud, but not "deafening" by any means. A nice roar (like a cross between Italian exotic supercar and American V-8), but not "painful" on the ears if that makes sense. I'm younger (30's) and wanted it loud, though.

I'm starting to think that with the stock H-pipe it's far quieter than it would be with an x-pipe upgrade. If you feel it may be too loud, just downgrade to a lower noise level Corsa. It's great though because it never has drone.
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Old Jan 2, 2017 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Slo Yelo C5
2000 Corvette here. All stock except for Corsa Xtreme axle-back only 4.0" tip exhaust. I have the stock H-pipe...no X pipe.

No drone at all. Like none whatsoever. I have an automatic transmission and below 2,500 (or so) rpms I honestly think the exhaust is as quiet as the stock exhaust. Above 3,000 rpms it's loud, but not "deafening" by any means. A nice roar (like a cross between Italian exotic supercar and American V-8), but not "painful" on the ears if that makes sense. I'm younger (30's) and wanted it loud, though.

I'm starting to think that with the stock H-pipe it's far quieter than it would be with an x-pipe upgrade. If you feel it may be too loud, just downgrade to a lower noise level Corsa. It's great though because it never has drone.
I pay a lot of attention to detail including the body language of peole who post on this forum....

You hit on a very important thing when you mentioned your age...

as we get older out taste changes.. some older people want to recapture their youth by doing this that they use to like in attempt to recapture it. here is an interesting study I took, IN Florida and senior citizens centers, there are more fist fights by men in their 80's than in a high school yard. Part of this problem according to doctors is thee seniors want to show the ladies that they still have it.. seems strange yet not as strange as I once thought.

I was 60 when I bought my Corsa Indy Pace car system, ( now known as the Corsa Sport).. I was also involved in the development of a system for the Corvette Indy Pace car.. Corsa won that Contract and actually was given a GM part number. Corsa won out because back them, that system has a life time warranty for the original owner. and because there was no drone, a critical key element in the qualification.

For the most part younger people to lean toward loud systems, some younger people do not know the difference between hard and obnoxious drone ( dirty harmonics ) they have come here saying that their drone is cool...
IN my opinion, Corsa is a no brainer as a manufacturer, the only thing to chose is which one, the sport, or the extreme. To my ear the sport is sweet music. I think younger people might gravitate toward the extreme.... I never had to learn to live with my choice, I loved them from the first day and loved them more as time went on.. Some people buy into an exhaust system and learn to live with it. but other riding in the car do not have the same learn to live with it experience.
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an X pipe is also a good choice.. for many reasons, it gives a smoother engine because it sucks all the exhaust gases from the cylinder equally from both banks of the engine like an equalizer.. it allows for a better fuel mixture and better fuel mileage. .It draw out unburnt fuel so there is less popping. all C5 come rich with the factory tune.. This is a safety tune. That's why a specific tune for temp and altitude can get as much from your engine as tuners are getting.
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Originally Posted by SoAlVette
Time for exhaust work. My stock 2000 vert has baffles loose in one of the mufflers. I've been wanting a beefier sound, and am looking at the Magnlaflow street series 16732 or maybe the Corsa Extreme 14132. I had Flowmasters on my Tundra, and after the 2nd time the baffles came loose, I swore off of them. I do not want too aggressive, but if I am going to do this, I want something that sounds much better than stock. Will I get drone at highway speeds and/or deceleration popping with either of these if I just go with the axle back, or will I need to go cat back with x-pipe. Again, I am stock and do not have upgrade plans. I have read many posts, and from what I can determine, I do not want to go as loud or aggressive as Borla or Billy boat. Please, any input would be greatly appreciated.


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Hey there SoAlVette. I ran across your post and thought I might offer an option. Although our very popular Bullet Exhaust, know for being on the louder side, is great for a more aggressive sound. We do have optional systems that will give you increased horsepower without drone even when you have an automatic that's often troublesome in controlling drone. The system I'm talking about is our PRT system for the C5 Corvette. The Billy Boat Exhaust PRT system is simple in design, though more complex in theory, which suggests that you can have a mellow sound at cruising speeds and a sport note when you’re opening it up. It allows true straight through exhaust passage under aggressive driving conditions. Mike here in sales knows the ins and outs of Corvette exhaust issues and about the PRT. If you have more questions please feel free to call him directly with your questions at 623-581-7600 x18

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I get a lot complements with the prt's, looks and sound. And at the age of 63 if there is drone after 17 years of owning them i am unaware of any.

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Originally Posted by BBExhaust!
We do have optional systems that will give you increased horsepower without drone even when you have an automatic that's often troublesome in controlling drone. The system I'm talking about is our PRT system for the C5 Corvette. The Billy Boat Exhaust PRT system is simple in design, though more complex in theory, which suggests that you can have a mellow sound at cruising speeds and a sport note when you’re opening it up.
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Sorry to be repetitive David, but this is discussed constantly and I'm always on the fence. I have a Z06 axle back on my coupe, and there is no drone. Are you stating that with the PRT system there will be NO DRONE just like my titaniums or the Corsas?
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Originally Posted by SoAlVette
Time for exhaust work. My stock 2000 vert has baffles loose in one of the mufflers. I've been wanting a beefier sound, and am looking at the Magnlaflow street series 16732 or maybe the Corsa Extreme 14132. I had Flowmasters on my Tundra, and after the 2nd time the baffles came loose, I swore off of them. I do not want too aggressive, but if I am going to do this, I want something that sounds much better than stock. Will I get drone at highway speeds and/or deceleration popping with either of these if I just go with the axle back, or will I need to go cat back with x-pipe. Again, I am stock and do not have upgrade plans. I have read many posts, and from what I can determine, I do not want to go as loud or aggressive as Borla or Billy boat. Please, any input would be greatly appreciated.


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If you are looking for a beefier sound, in my opinion the Corsa anything is not the way to go. I hope you were able to listen to different cat backs, The Corsa is more exotic than muscle. In my opinion.
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Originally Posted by BBExhaust!
Hey there SoAlVette. I ran across your post and thought I might offer an option. Although our very popular Bullet Exhaust, know for being on the louder side, is great for a more aggressive sound.

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SoAlVette avoid the B&B Bullet's at all cost unless you love crazy amounts of drone at normal driving RPMs.
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Originally Posted by FRANK J CARCIA
If you are looking for a beefier sound, in my opinion the Corsa anything is not the way to go. I hope you were able to listen to different cat backs, The Corsa is more exotic than muscle. In my opinion.
I think the Corsa Sport is a nice sound, but Magnaflow is deeper to me. Of course here comes drone again. (with Magnaflow)

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The factory exhaust system on a C5, be it standard or Z06 Titanium, were fully tested and approved not to have drone. The ONLY other exhaust system tested and approved not to drone and was awarded a GM PART NUMBER, is the Cora Indy pace car. Of the three manufacturers offering their system to Gm. No drone was a specific requirement to achieve this contract.

The indy pace car system from Corsa has had its name changed to Cora Sport, but the design remains the same, an even more aggressive system The Cora Extreme like all Corsa systems is
guaranteed not to drone.

No other exhaust system on the market has been vetted and approved By GM.TO BE drone free.
Be very careful of who you listen to on this forum
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Corsa is the way to go. Even on my modded Z06 it had no drone. I went to a custom 3" system with Borla XS mufflers and Vibrant resonators and still have drone. I really want to go back to the Corsa but at my level I need the 3".
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Sound clips won't give you true sound clips are all compressed audio files.

Unless you can ride in someone's car for 20 minutes at sustained cruising speed in the 1500 to 1800 rpm band. Going to a show or a vet club is useless. Hearing a guy Rev his engine is not cruising along at a sustained speed. Drone is an unbearable thing.. many who claim there system does not drone is because they never take it on a sustained trip in the 1500 to 1800 range. I'm talking 5th or 6th gear, both overdrive gear ...for 20 minutes without up or down shifting. That's how you determine accrptanle sound pressure and harmonic resonance
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I have the Magnlaflow street series 16732 and really enjoy them...especially if you are looking for something deeper. If there is a drone then it doesnt bother me at all.
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
Loud is very subjective. the only way you could know for sure is if you use your own receiver ( ears ) to determine the pressure effects under driving conditions. What some thinks is loud, someone else might think it tame.
With Corsa there is no fear of drone at any rpm level. Corsa is my recommendation. Corsa sport is my recommendation, but my taste might be very different from yours. The extremes are louder than I would want on a long term basis. They are great for the initial purchase but can get old , Few people with them would say that. I have the sports, have had them for 15 years no drone and sound perfect for my taste. I could sell my Corsa sports tomorrow for 800 dollars and buy any thing I want... But there is nothing sweeter for my taste.

My point to this is no one can tell you what you like or what you can expect. They can only tell you of their experience and what their ear can feel.
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agree completely. LOVE my Corsa Sport and X Pipe! Smooth, elegant and unobtrusive until I make it loud.
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I'll chime in - I have the Magnaflows 16732s as well, although I've had them for 5 years now and bought them used so are older, and I do get drone at that 1500 rpm range.

Doesn't really bother me much as I either downshift or just drive faster

Like ET said above...corsa is known NOT to drone, but really depends on the exhaust note you're after....

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Originally Posted by SoAlVette
Time for exhaust work. My stock 2000 vert has baffles loose in one of the mufflers. I've been wanting a beefier sound, and am looking at the Magnlaflow street series 16732 or maybe the Corsa Extreme 14132. I had Flowmasters on my Tundra, and after the 2nd time the baffles came loose, I swore off of them. I do not want too aggressive, but if I am going to do this, I want something that sounds much better than stock. Will I get drone at highway speeds and/or deceleration popping with either of these if I just go with the axle back, or will I need to go cat back with x-pipe. Again, I am stock and do not have upgrade plans. I have read many posts, and from what I can determine, I do not want to go as loud or aggressive as Borla or Billy boat. Please, any input would be greatly appreciated.


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SoAlVette - I live in Crestview FL. only about 1 1/2 hours from you. If you'd like to hear the Magnaflow we could meet half way around Pensacola. I'm looking to get rid of the Magnaflows because I don't like the drone but you could decide for yourself.
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