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Old Feb 9, 2017 | 11:24 AM
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Ok, I have Hankook 305/30/19's mounted on Cray Spiders on rear of my '02 Z06. The shop just called me and said they did the lowering with a kit and then an alignment and the closest they can get my rears in spec is -2 degrees. They are telling me -.6 is spec and I will have a little inner wheel wear but if they put it in spec there is rubbing on the inner part of the wheel? Anyone experience this? Actually, my question may be what is the correct way to lower your car?? Here is the difference:



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Old Feb 10, 2017 | 10:00 AM
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What is the width of the rear wheels ?
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Old Feb 10, 2017 | 02:50 PM
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By raising up the rear end you will decrease the camber. That being said, I know of a few autocrossers who run -1.2 camber in the rear and 1/16 toe in per side and -1.5 to -1.8 camber in front with 0 toe. (Some like less front camber for tire wear) since they only drive on the road about 2-3,000 miles per year they experience no noticeable tire wear. I once drove 720 mile to a track and then returned with the 1.8F/1.0 rear set up and using a digital tread depth gauge had very minor uneven wear.
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Old Feb 10, 2017 | 06:23 PM
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I'd raise the rear of the car about 3/8"...........
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Old Feb 12, 2017 | 11:28 AM
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What is the width of the rear wheels ?
10.5" w/305/30/19 on the back.




Finally got my ride back from the shop and here is pic of whole car. Love the look, but it rides like crap now, really stiff and bouncy. He didn't lower the front too much to help with navigating my driveway. So should I come back up a bit in the back? Coilovers?
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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
Give a good part of the crappy ride to the 30 series tires.... BTDT
Yeah I get that but I had the rims and tires before lowering and the ride was completely tolerable. The biggest difference was after lowering.
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Old Feb 12, 2017 | 01:49 PM
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I did not see it mentioned, but what part of the suspension are you rubbing on & is it possible that your shocks are bottoming out? causing your stiff/bouncy ride. Pictures from the underside would probably help.

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Originally Posted by 6speedsteve
I did not see it mentioned, but what part of the suspension are you rubbing on & is it possible that your shocks are bottoming out? causing your stiff/bouncy ride. Pictures from the underside would probably help.
10-4, I will get some!
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Here is the left rear. See where the bolt is and how close it is to inner wheel.


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Hits on the end of your leaf spring, I see that wheel is listed as a 65mm offset & stock is 58mm so only about .200 more inset than std rim. May possibly need to run a spacer to push wheel back out to get your camber back. Coilovers will fix that, as your leaf spring gets removed, or as you stated maybe raise it back up some, not sure if that will help.
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Originally Posted by 02BlownZ06
10.5" w/305/30/19 on the back.


Sitting THAT low, you HAVE to be riding on the bumpstops......



EDIT.....one other thing I just remembered, is "aero rake". In order to handle properly, at speed, the front end needs to be a little lower than the rear, to get air flowing OVER the hood and the rest of the car, and not under the car, causing lift. You should lift the rear a little, to achieve this.

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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
Sitting THAT low, you HAVE to be riding on the bumpstops......



EDIT.....one other thing I just remembered, is "aero rake". In order to handle properly, at speed, the front end needs to be a little lower than the rear, to get air flowing OVER the hood and the rest of the car, and not under the car, causing lift. You should lift the rear a little, to achieve this.
It sure feels like it's riding on them. I am definitely going to come up a little then. Thanks for your input!
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Originally Posted by 02BlownZ06
It sure feels like it's riding on them. I am definitely going to come up a little then. Thanks for your input!
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Old Feb 13, 2017 | 08:44 AM
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Sorry to see you having issues but you have received some pretty good advice above. Great looking car.

Love the look of the car lowered and would like to do mine but Death Valley has better roads than my half mile of gravel to the highway.
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Originally Posted by Black 03 Z06
Sorry to see you having issues but you have received some pretty good advice above. Great looking car.

Love the look of the car lowered and would like to do mine but Death Valley has better roads than my half mile of gravel to the highway.
Thanks! Yeah, I love the way it looks but it sounds like I need to come up a little for sure.
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It sure looks good being that low, but the rear looks too low compared to the front. As was mentioned, there should be some forward rake. The recommendation is 1/2 to 3/4" higher in the rear measure at the rocker panels. It would probably help a few of your issues. What shocks are you using? If you don't want to go coilovers, try Bilstein Sports, they work well with lowered cars. You also could contact Doug Rippie Motorsports, they have the Sports specially valved for them at a price not much more than regular Bilsteins. I have the regular version and they work well.
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It sure looks good being that low, but the rear looks too low compared to the front. As was mentioned, there should be some forward rake. The recommendation is 1/2 to 3/4" higher in the rear measure at the rocker panels. It would probably help a few of your issues. What shocks are you using? If you don't want to go coilovers, try Bilstein Sports, they work well with lowered cars. You also could contact Doug Rippie Motorsports, they have the Sports specially valved for them at a price not much more than regular Bilsteins. I have the regular version and they work well.
The rear needs to be raised some to provide the proper aero rake. I'm running bilstein sport shocks lowered on West coast corvettes lowering kit and running 19x12 rears with 305/30/19. Probably could also use a thin spacer to accommodate the offset.
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Originally Posted by striper
It sure looks good being that low, but the rear looks too low compared to the front. As was mentioned, there should be some forward rake. The recommendation is 1/2 to 3/4" higher in the rear measure at the rocker panels. It would probably help a few of your issues. What shocks are you using? If you don't want to go coilovers, try Bilstein Sports, they work well with lowered cars. You also could contact Doug Rippie Motorsports, they have the Sports specially valved for them at a price not much more than regular Bilsteins. I have the regular version and they work well.
Great advice, might look into the Bilsteins. Thanks!
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The rear needs to be raised some to provide the proper aero rake. I'm running bilstein sport shocks lowered on West coast corvettes lowering kit and running 19x12 rears with 305/30/19. Probably could also use a thin spacer to accommodate the offset.
that is the same lowering kit that I used. Do you know which model Bilstein? There are 2 or 3 different ones that show fitment on the rear of a C5.
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