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Le Mans Master
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Is that 4.7 for the A4? Seems a bit high to me...I seem to remember the 6M doing 4.2 or 4.3, which is still a tad slower than the Camaro...just saying...
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Le Mans Master
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The automatics in today's cars are especially annoying...they constantly have the engine lugging, or almost lugging and even the slightest bit of acceleration requires a downshift...
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Which is faster around a road course? C5 I'm sure.
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The C5 interior is only "ok" until you've experienced something better. The C6 interior is really no better, still feels cheap and basic. I think what lets both cars down the most would be the seats. And no, I'm not jealous of either platform, to assume someone is jealous based off criticism is silly.
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I'm sure someone will chime in and say one, or both are faster on a road course, but I don't see how heavier MUSCLE cars will outhandle a much lighter SPORTS car...
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not really a opinion, went to the SCCA Cam Challenge in Mineral Wells Texas over the weekend. The later model Camaros all built up could not get close to the times of some of the AS ZO 6's (stock) Have to admit my Gal's and other ZO 6's are BAD *** !!!!
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And if you want lightweight and power... get an LS swapped Miata or S2000.
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I think the C5 engineers did a great job considering the car wasn't supposed to be built, and they didn't have a design budget allocated from GM. Could the interior be better, you bet. Could be a lot worse also. C6 interior not much better if any. Personally, I can't think of a 1990's designed car I'd rather own.
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Road course speeds: The Nurburgring being the definitive road circuit, go look up the validated times posted by GM. Although not listed, a bit of research shows that the 2004 C5 Z06 "broke 8 minutes", having benefited from 'ring developed suspension tweaks compared to previous years.
That's a good time, BTW, but slower that the Alfa Quadrafogllo, the Camaro Z28 and the ZL1. All much newer cars of course. Wikipedia has a good list of validated timings. Tires play a big part, GM was quoted as saying the Micheline Pilot Super Sports, as in the Z07 package were good for 10 seconds a lap over the regular Pilot Sports.
That's a good time, BTW, but slower that the Alfa Quadrafogllo, the Camaro Z28 and the ZL1. All much newer cars of course. Wikipedia has a good list of validated timings. Tires play a big part, GM was quoted as saying the Micheline Pilot Super Sports, as in the Z07 package were good for 10 seconds a lap over the regular Pilot Sports.
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Because much of it is the truth. The interior is cheap. Homelink was on many cars at the time, yet the Corvette didn't have it (granted, it is easy to add). Lack of GPS option (easily resolved nowadays), no heated seats option, the list goes on. Yes, it is unreasonable to expect an early 2000s car to have Bluetooth, but many of the other luxury amenities were never made available for the C5 Corvette, at least from the factory.
The BMW S62 engine of the same era generated 396 HP 369 ft-lbs from a 4.9 L engine, compared to the 350 HP 365 ft-lbs from a 5.7 L, bumping up to 405 HP 400 ft-lbs with the LS6. Mercedes M113 5.4 L generated 342 HP and 391 ft-lbs. So yes, the LS1 has relatively low output for its size even compared to engines of the same era. However, that also makes adding power to it much easier, the lower compression is more forced induction friendly.
The BMW S62 engine of the same era generated 396 HP 369 ft-lbs from a 4.9 L engine, compared to the 350 HP 365 ft-lbs from a 5.7 L, bumping up to 405 HP 400 ft-lbs with the LS6. Mercedes M113 5.4 L generated 342 HP and 391 ft-lbs. So yes, the LS1 has relatively low output for its size even compared to engines of the same era. However, that also makes adding power to it much easier, the lower compression is more forced induction friendly.
