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Old Aug 31, 2017 | 06:45 PM
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Are valve springs a must as a prevention mod in a 34,000 mile 04Z?
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Old Aug 31, 2017 | 07:40 PM
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Check out the first page of the sticky at the top of this section

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-failures.html

04's had a very low 'reported' rate of spring failure. Late model year 02's - early 03's had the most by far. Not a bad idea to replace springs on an 04 but not as critical as earlier years.


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Excellent sticky. Thanks 😉
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I bought springs and all years ago for my 04Z, haven't got to it yet... maybe this winter. The 02 and 03 are the reportedly bad years.
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Old Aug 31, 2017 | 08:32 PM
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Yes. I'm gathering that from this long sticky thread.
Wonder if it's worth it on an '04. 🤔
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A set of new LS6 springs is $70 and a few hours of your time. Even if there is a 1% chance of failure, its still a good idea to replace them considering how cheap it is. And in my opinion, its a good idea to think of valve springs a wear item. Its also a good excuse to get in there and change out the valve seals at the same time.
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Originally Posted by Spaceme1117
A set of new LS6 springs is $70 and a few hours of your time. Even if there is a 1% chance of failure, its still a good idea to replace them considering how cheap it is. And in my opinion, its a good idea to think of valve springs a wear item. Its also a good excuse to get in there and change out the valve seals at the same time.
You're correct, but I'm not that much of a wrencher, and a mechanic would charge at least 4 hours of labor I imagine. So more like $500-600 including parts.
Still beats $6500 new ls6. 😯

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New springs (I got LS3 springs), seals, plugs, wires, and valve gasket. It is worth doing 100%. Just for peace of mind. I bought all of the parts and my mechanic charged $300 for the labor.
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Originally Posted by Spaceme1117
A set of new LS6 springs is $70 and a few hours of your time. Even if there is a 1% chance of failure, its still a good idea to replace them considering how cheap it is. And in my opinion, its a good idea to think of valve springs a wear item. Its also a good excuse to get in there and change out the valve seals at the same time.
Valvesprings Part # is 12499224 ($71)
Intake and exhaust seals: Fel-Pro Valve Stem Intake/Exhaust Seals SS71039 (set of 16 for $19). Less than half the price of OEM which are part # 12482063 for intake seals ($23) and part # 12482062 ($26) for exhaust seals).
Valve cover gaskets: FEL-PRO VS50504R1 (with grommets $17) or VS50504R (without grommets $11). About half the price of OEM valve cover gaskets which are sold individually rather than as a pair.

I ordered from Summit Racing since they price matched to GMPartsDirect.co (cheapest out the door price on the valve springs) to give me free shipping.

Trunions upgrade (around $125) is optional (no known cases of failure on LS6) but recommended if doing cam mods in future. But, can always add them later.

Tell installer to check valve spring retainer condition (but they should be fine to reuse).

I found a Corvette mechanic who works at the dealership but does work on the side...he's willing to do the labor for $300 which is the cheapest quote I got.

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$300 is a great labor quote . 🕺
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It's kind of like tires. The tread is almost gone but I can still keep going on them. Will one blow out before you get new ones? Is it worth the gamble? Except tires are WAY cheaper than a new LS6. When I changed my valve springs (and plugs, wires, gaskets) it took almost as long to do the plugs and wires as it did to do the springs. Like others have said, it is well worth the peace of mind.
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Old Sep 2, 2017 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by glbeauchamp
It's kind of like tires. The tread is almost gone but I can still keep going on them. Will one blow out before you get new ones? Is it worth the gamble? Except tires are WAY cheaper than a new LS6. When I changed my valve springs (and plugs, wires, gaskets) it took almost as long to do the plugs and wires as it did to do the springs. Like others have said, it is well worth the peace of mind.
Is yours an '04?
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Originally Posted by Noam Tasini
Is yours an '04?
It's a 2002 built in April 02. Right smack in the middle of the bad springs time frame. Mine had 44000 on it I think when I changed them in April of this year. I felt like I was playing Russian Roulette. I was afraid to wind the engine up over 2000 rpms for fear of hearing the motor coming apart at the seams so I changed them for the the peace of mind. Why become a statistic? Better safe than sorry. You'll feel the better for it if you change them even though you're on the extreme tail end of the beast.
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Old Sep 2, 2017 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by glbeauchamp
It's a 2002 built in April 02. Right smack in the middle of the bad springs time frame. Mine had 44000 on it I think when I changed them in April of this year. I felt like I was playing Russian Roulette. I was afraid to wind the engine up over 2000 rpms for fear of hearing the motor coming apart at the seams so I changed them for the the peace of mind. Why become a statistic? Better safe than sorry. You'll feel the better for it if you change them even though you're on the extreme tail end of the beast.
Thanks for sharing. Happy you're revving again 🤣
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Old Sep 2, 2017 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Noam Tasini
Are valve springs a must as a prevention mod in a 34,000 mile 04Z?
No. You can drive your Z06 with confidence, the valve spring problem was long dead by the time yours was built. Replacing them makes no sense, but hey, it's your call.
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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
No. You can drive your Z06 with confidence, the valve spring problem was long dead by the time yours was built. Replacing them makes no sense, but hey, it's your call.
Interesting opposite view. I appreciate it. My door sticker says July 2003.
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Old Sep 4, 2017 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Noam Tasini
Interesting opposite view. I appreciate it. My door sticker says July 2003.
Not really opposite... many don't worry about the 04 year.
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Old Sep 4, 2017 | 06:39 AM
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I mean you may as well do a cam while you're doing the springs...
Just makes sense if you ask me
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Originally Posted by Glenndingo
I mean you may as well do a cam while you're doing the springs...
Just makes sense if you ask me
absolutely.
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Old Sep 4, 2017 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Noam Tasini
You're correct, but I'm not that much of a wrencher, and a mechanic would charge at least 4 hours of labor I imagine. So more like $500-600 including parts.
Still beats $6500 new ls6. 😯
You are absolutely correct, but for the wrong reasons. NEW LS6 engines are not and have not been available for some time, therefore, your replacement engine will have to be either A) a rebuilt LS6, or B) a new LS3 with some expensive conversion items added. Good luck
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