Notices
C5 General General C5 Corvette and C5 Z06 Discussion not covered in Tech

2nd accident......

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 23, 2017 | 01:51 PM
  #21  
Choreo's Avatar
Choreo
Le Mans Master
Supporting Lifetime
15 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 6,774
Likes: 363
From: Midland TX
Default

I can think of no good reason to use a Cellphone while a car is in motion? One could always pull over if they just can't suppress the urge to transmit or view their wife's cat Animoji! Maybe if I were being chased by a madman in a car behind me to call the Police, but I would be too busy trying to outmaneuver him and the Police would never get there in time anyway!

I have been self-employed for over 40 years and I have never even owned a Cellphone! The last thing I need is another Ball-and-Chain. As an outsider to the human race, I have listened in to these "conversations" when at restaurants, at the gym, etc. and have yet to overhear one word that needs to be transmitted - in fact, it seems like for many people the Smart-Phone is the only thing smart about them! Just another addiction.

You even watch these crowds that go through the Hell of attending say a Presidential speech and the like. For some it may represent the only time they get that close to a President. You look at the audience and EVERY SHEEP THERE is holding up a SmartPhone to record the event - 2 feet away from the President and they do not even glance at him, they are staring at him through their postage-stamp sized screen (or worse holding up an iPad)! Like they are somehow going to record something that 4,000 other phones somehow missed?

I recently spoke with a Professional Photographer that was hired at a high price to photograph a wedding. He said, that was his last try at a wedding shoot. In spite of the request that everyone turn off their phones, he could not even get a shot of the bride and groom walking down the aisle for all the iPads and cellphones sticking out in the aisle from family and friends! Ruined the whole event and the married couple were not happy!

I don't see why I can't let my dog steer my car when I go out, he seems to enjoy it and it is a Free Country.. right?

Last edited by Choreo; Sep 23, 2017 at 01:57 PM.
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2017 | 01:52 PM
  #22  
Mike98SilVert's Avatar
Mike98SilVert
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 90 Days
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 30,360
Likes: 4,582
From: Bonita Springs, Florida
Default

It seems that ever since you got yur Corvette, women have been hiiting on you. Seriously, sorry for your bad luck. There is too much texting while driving going on. Good luck with the repairs.
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2017 | 02:11 PM
  #23  
C5 Newb's Avatar
C5 Newb
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 351
Likes: 13
From: Payson AZ
Default

Originally Posted by Mike98SilVert
It seems that ever since you got yur Corvette, women have been hiiting on you. Seriously, sorry for your bad luck. There is too much texting while driving going on. Good luck with the repairs.

Hey! I never thought of it like that.

Your right, I am a STUD!
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2017 | 02:39 PM
  #24  
bobs77vet's Avatar
bobs77vet
Race Director
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 11,874
Likes: 263
From: Arlington Va Current ride 04 vert, previous vettes: 69 vert, 77 resto mod
Default

tough luck for sure. the front ends are low there is no doubt about it, but the back end is like a slab of concrete its hard not to see that one....
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2017 | 02:41 PM
  #25  
Route99's Avatar
Route99
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime
St. Jude 10 Year Donor
Photogenic
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 10,247
Likes: 888
From: Hickory NC
2025 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
2022 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
2020 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
St. Jude Donor '17 thru '26
Default

Originally Posted by C5 Newb
I went 51 years without an accident of any kind then since getting the Vette I had the one lady back onto the front of my car and now today sitting at a stoplight in Phoenix a lady rear ended the car behind me knocking him into the rear of my car......

Seems like the C5 is an accident magnet....

Maybe I will get a new paint job out of this one.
Michael - Glad that you weren't hurt and that it sounds like your Vette is repairable. Wishing you well with your paint job!

Originally Posted by grampi50
Drivers are too busy with their phones to pay attention to their driving...I still say big brother needs to come down with a regulation that forces all cell phone companies to make their phones turn off when in a vehicle that has the ignition on...
While I agree that phones can be an issue or concern, I disagree with a manufactured fix (something to force the cell phone off). First of all, it will only open up the market for an electrical whiz to create a "turn on" device that defeats the "turn off" device.

Secondly, and more importantly, there are times people may really need to receive or make a call while in their car. I received a call from my sister, while driving to work, that my father had died; seven weeks later, I received a call from my sister my mother had died. In each instance, I was making two hour drives for business. Do I think I needed to know about these deaths - Yes! I did not need to be two hours from my home so I could turn around, go back, pick up my wife and make an additional 2 1/2 hour drive to my parents' nursing home.

On another occasion, I called in a roll over accident in the opposite lane. I suppose I could have waited until I got to a safe location to turn around, then drive to the site of the accident, turned my vehicle off, gotten our of my car and then called for police/medical assistance, but I felt the urgency to call in potentially life threatening injuries was of much more merit than a device in my car and/or phone that would keep me from using it.

As an aside, I'm not sure if I'm considered old or young, (since that appeared to be the concern in one response); but I am in my late 60s, and as
far as the term, "Uncle Tom", I am only aware of negative connotations with this. According to Wikipedia, "The term "Uncle Tom" is also used as a derogatory epithet for an excessively subservient person, particularly when that person is aware of their own lower-class status based on race". Hence the reason, I and others perhaps chose not to use the term.

Again, are cell phones a concern in driving as well as restaurants, movie theaters, et al? Yes, however, the cure to every concern is not new "big brother" intervention. Double the fine if an accident occurs while the person is on the phone. Have a license suspension if the driver has an accident while on the phone (and texting is a greater concern to me than using the phone). DON'T interfere with the ability to receive/make truly important calls.
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2017 | 02:41 PM
  #26  
Phanni's Avatar
Phanni
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 9,488
Likes: 1,743
From: Knoxville Tn
Default

Originally Posted by C5 Newb
I went 51 years without an accident of any kind then since getting the Vette I had the one lady back onto the front of my car and now today sitting at a stoplight in Phoenix a lady rear ended the car behind me knocking him into the rear of my car......

Seems like the C5 is an accident magnet....

Maybe I will get a new paint job out of this one.
I'd wager a cell phone was involved.
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2017 | 04:13 PM
  #27  
grampi50's Avatar
grampi50
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 6,480
Likes: 555
Default

Originally Posted by Route99
Michael - Glad that you weren't hurt and that it sounds like your Vette is repairable. Wishing you well with your paint job!



While I agree that phones can be an issue or concern, I disagree with a manufactured fix (something to force the cell phone off). First of all, it will only open up the market for an electrical whiz to create a "turn on" device that defeats the "turn off" device.

Secondly, and more importantly, there are times people may really need to receive or make a call while in their car. I received a call from my sister, while driving to work, that my father had died; seven weeks later, I received a call from my sister my mother had died. In each instance, I was making two hour drives for business. Do I think I needed to know about these deaths - Yes! I did not need to be two hours from my home so I could turn around, go back, pick up my wife and make an additional 2 1/2 hour drive to my parents' nursing home.

On another occasion, I called in a roll over accident in the opposite lane. I suppose I could have waited until I got to a safe location to turn around, then drive to the site of the accident, turned my vehicle off, gotten our of my car and then called for police/medical assistance, but I felt the urgency to call in potentially life threatening injuries was of much more merit than a device in my car and/or phone that would keep me from using it.

As an aside, I'm not sure if I'm considered old or young, (since that appeared to be the concern in one response); but I am in my late 60s, and as
far as the term, "Uncle Tom", I am only aware of negative connotations with this. According to Wikipedia, "The term "Uncle Tom" is also used as a derogatory epithet for an excessively subservient person, particularly when that person is aware of their own lower-class status based on race". Hence the reason, I and others perhaps chose not to use the term.

Again, are cell phones a concern in driving as well as restaurants, movie theaters, et al? Yes, however, the cure to every concern is not new "big brother" intervention. Double the fine if an accident occurs while the person is on the phone. Have a license suspension if the driver has an accident while on the phone (and texting is a greater concern to me than using the phone). DON'T interfere with the ability to receive/make truly important calls.

Yeah, the Uncle Tom reference was a bad one by me...the term I was thinking of was big brother...and yes, there are times when a cell phone would need to be used while in a vehicle, but I can't think of any way to allow people to use it only in an emergency without being able to use it anytime...and there are already laws against using hand held devices while driving, unfortunately, the laws aren't enforced. Something needs to be done because it's getting out of hand...

Last edited by grampi50; Sep 23, 2017 at 04:14 PM.
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2017 | 04:23 PM
  #28  
feeder82's Avatar
feeder82
Safety Car
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,753
Likes: 1,212
From: Wisconsin
Default

Keep in mind, driving is a privilege, not a right
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-6

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
Old Sep 23, 2017 | 04:33 PM
  #29  
JR-01's Avatar
JR-01
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 8,900
Likes: 1,074
From: Wisconsin
Default

Originally Posted by Route99
Michael - Glad that you weren't hurt and that it sounds like your Vette is repairable. Wishing you well with your paint job!



While I agree that phones can be an issue or concern, I disagree with a manufactured fix (something to force the cell phone off). First of all, it will only open up the market for an electrical whiz to create a "turn on" device that defeats the "turn off" device.

Secondly, and more importantly, there are times people may really need to receive or make a call while in their car. I received a call from my sister, while driving to work, that my father had died; seven weeks later, I received a call from my sister my mother had died. In each instance, I was making two hour drives for business. Do I think I needed to know about these deaths - Yes! I did not need to be two hours from my home so I could turn around, go back, pick up my wife and make an additional 2 1/2 hour drive to my parents' nursing home.

On another occasion, I called in a roll over accident in the opposite lane. I suppose I could have waited until I got to a safe location to turn around, then drive to the site of the accident, turned my vehicle off, gotten our of my car and then called for police/medical assistance, but I felt the urgency to call in potentially life threatening injuries was of much more merit than a device in my car and/or phone that would keep me from using it.

As an aside, I'm not sure if I'm considered old or young, (since that appeared to be the concern in one response); but I am in my late 60s, and as
far as the term, "Uncle Tom", I am only aware of negative connotations with this. According to Wikipedia, "The term "Uncle Tom" is also used as a derogatory epithet for an excessively subservient person, particularly when that person is aware of their own lower-class status based on race". Hence the reason, I and others perhaps chose not to use the term.

Again, are cell phones a concern in driving as well as restaurants, movie theaters, et al? Yes, however, the cure to every concern is not new "big brother" intervention. Double the fine if an accident occurs while the person is on the phone. Have a license suspension if the driver has an accident while on the phone (and texting is a greater concern to me than using the phone). DON'T interfere with the ability to receive/make truly important calls.
We all survived just fine before cell phones. Even better than now. No call is more important than a life, even to let you know someone died. Eventually you will find out everything you need to know.. Doubling the fine for an inattentive cell phone user after you have been killed by him really isn't going to do you much good, is it? Stopping the behavior before he kills someone makes more sense. Not slapping his wrist afterward.

Cells phones are creating a culture of brain dead idiots.
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2017 | 04:54 PM
  #30  
Choreo's Avatar
Choreo
Le Mans Master
Supporting Lifetime
15 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 6,774
Likes: 363
From: Midland TX
Default

Originally Posted by JR-01
We all survived just fine before cell phones. Even better than now. No call is more important than a life, even to let you know someone died. Eventually you will find out everything you need to know.. Doubling the fine for an inattentive cell phone user after you have been killed by him really isn't going to do you much good, is it? Stopping the behavior before he kills someone makes more sense. Not slapping his wrist afterward.

Cells phones are creating a culture of brain dead idiots.
:agree: There is no reason in any of the cases stated that one could not get beeped and pull over to take the call. Can you imagine how funny it would be if phones only worked if GPS was stationery? The highways would be littered with tire-laden phone booths! I have driven over one-million miles in Corvettes alone and never had a Cell Phone - I am still alive!

Last edited by Choreo; Sep 23, 2017 at 04:55 PM.
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2017 | 05:03 PM
  #31  
1999corvettels1's Avatar
1999corvettels1
Safety Car
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,950
Likes: 386
From: Chandler AZ
Default

I was riding with a female friend and she was texting while driving, making a left turn, her rear driver's side wheel hit and went over the median on the road she had just turned on, it went BAM and her SUV jumped hard and my head hit the window, I said damn!

Not 3 minutes later she was still texting and her vehicle drifted into the other lane with a car coming at us!

I said "look out your going in the opposite lane!"

I told her she is going to kill someone over texting, and she acted like I'm the idiot and I worry too much.

Now every time I see a car weaving into my lane, or driving weird, if possible I glance over and see a phone being texted on, happens often!
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2017 | 05:12 PM
  #32  
JR-01's Avatar
JR-01
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 8,900
Likes: 1,074
From: Wisconsin
Default

Originally Posted by Choreo
:agree: There is no reason in any of the cases stated that one could not get beeped and pull over to take the call. Can you imagine how funny it would be if phones only worked if GPS was stationery? The highways would be littered with tire-laden phone booths! I have driven over one-million miles in Corvettes alone and never had a Cell Phone - I am still alive!
That can't be true. You must be dead.
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2017 | 05:44 PM
  #33  
Route99's Avatar
Route99
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime
St. Jude 10 Year Donor
Photogenic
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 10,247
Likes: 888
From: Hickory NC
2025 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
2022 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
2020 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
St. Jude Donor '17 thru '26
Default

Originally Posted by Choreo
:agree: There is no reason in any of the cases stated that one could not get beeped and pull over to take the call. Can you imagine how funny it would be if phones only worked if GPS was stationery? The highways would be littered with tire-laden phone booths! I have driven over one-million miles in Corvettes alone and never had a Cell Phone - I am still alive!
Except, if the phone is deactivated while in the car, how would you get a beep?
Yes, cell phones can be distracting, but so can turning around to yell at the kids in the back seat, changing the setting of the radio or air conditioning, having an argument with your spouse or significant other, as well as so many other things. I'm concerned with where and how to draw the line.
We went many years without a cell phone - Until the day my son was in the hospital after being accidentally shot at the shooting range and his wife had been trying for 5 hours to contact us. We signed up for a cell phones that day! After that, our younger son made 11 combat deployments to Afghanistan and Iraq. If we were not immediately near our home phone, my wife and I had our cell phones wherever we went. Silly to some, perhaps, but not to us. We were blessed that on every one of his deployments he returned at least half way healthy; the same can't be said for all those in his unit.
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2017 | 05:57 PM
  #34  
JR-01's Avatar
JR-01
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 8,900
Likes: 1,074
From: Wisconsin
Default

https://patch.com/minnesota/stillwat...mother-charges

This happened last year near me. Was that text really necessary?
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2017 | 10:33 PM
  #35  
bobs77vet's Avatar
bobs77vet
Race Director
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 11,874
Likes: 263
From: Arlington Va Current ride 04 vert, previous vettes: 69 vert, 77 resto mod
Default

in DC and Maryland if you have a cell phone in your hand you are getting a ticket.

its a good law
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2017 | 11:06 PM
  #36  
Choreo's Avatar
Choreo
Le Mans Master
Supporting Lifetime
15 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 6,774
Likes: 363
From: Midland TX
Default

Originally Posted by Route99
Except, if the phone is deactivated while in the car, how would you get a beep?
Trust me, they could rig Smartphones to beep and show caller without allowing phone calls to connect while in motion inside cars if they wanted to - they perform far more complicated tasks now, but have no fear...it won't happen! The current generation cannot even function without their Smartphones, part of their brains have completely been offloaded at this point.

I used to think how stupid people looked as they walked around staring at their cellphones until it dawned on me that they have cameras integrated now and they were probably just looking down at their screens to see where they were going instead of looking up... then they started falling into fountains, so I guess that was not it!


The old adage "Aim High In Your Steering", now means to occasionally glance up at your hood ornament!

Originally Posted by JR-01
That can't be true. You must be dead.
No, I just play dead in real life!

Last edited by Choreo; Sep 23, 2017 at 11:12 PM.
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2017 | 11:10 PM
  #37  
JR-01's Avatar
JR-01
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 8,900
Likes: 1,074
From: Wisconsin
Default

Originally Posted by bobs77vet
in DC and Maryland if you have a cell phone in your hand you are getting a ticket.

its a good law
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To 2nd accident......

Old Sep 24, 2017 | 02:07 AM
  #38  
Rob 02's Avatar
Rob 02
Safety Car
Supporting Lifetime
 
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 3,534
Likes: 432
From: Atlantic Beach FL.
Default

There are plenty of hands free options out there but I think the people in question are probably texting which makes no since.

I try to drive more defensively like a cyclist.

I wont drive next to buses or big trucks either. They cant see you.
Reply
Old Sep 24, 2017 | 02:09 AM
  #39  
BigBossMY03Z's Avatar
BigBossMY03Z
Instructor
 
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 204
Likes: 12
Default

You really can't do much to stop the morons playing with their phones. Women in SUVs are the offenders 9 times out of 10. I had one passing me in the fast lane on the highway, when I saw her looking down on her phone as she passes me going 85 MPH I laid on the horn for a few seconds. She looked around for a bit, then went right back to staring at her phone. Awful.

My truck has integrated bluetooth so you can make calls and respond to/hear texts read to you all verbally. This is really the way to go since getting idiots to stop playing with their phones is not going to happen. There are laws against it in my state and I see cops pass right by people texting, they do nothing about it.
Reply
Old Sep 24, 2017 | 11:52 PM
  #40  
C5 Newb's Avatar
C5 Newb
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 351
Likes: 13
From: Payson AZ
Default

The lady in question was driving a Newer Toyota Maxis and she said she tried to stop but it just locked up and slid.

There were skid marks to back up her story and while I know nothing about the Toyota's I just assume everything now days has anti-lock brakes. I think hers were not working.

So a question to people who know more about it......

Once they fix or replace the rear end and paint it where do I go from there? I assume I have to be happy with the paint matching the rest of the car? The original paint is 18 years old and obviously faded somewhat from original and when they paint the rear end it isn't going to match so....?
Should I settle for them trying to blend it to the old paint or should they paint the whole car or what? I would hate to have the rear section be basically a different color or shade from the rest of it.

How does that work? Because tomorrow I have to go see them at the body shop. What questions should I be asking because if I don't like their answers I will take it to Phoenix and find a shop that maybe does more work with Corvettes.
This shop is the closest one to me and the insurance kinda picked it because of that, but THEY SAID I can take it where I want to, it's my choice.
So.....

What are some questions to ask them tomorrow?
What should I expect from them?
And if needed anyone have recommendations for a good shop in the Phoenix area.

I don't want to drop it off and get it back 6 months later....
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:29 PM.

story-0
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-1
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-8
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE