Discontinued parts - why i'll sell my c5 :(
10-19-2017, 10:47 PM
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I think the bankruptcy back in 2009 made the situation a little worse.
I've owned vehicles that were rare (500 in the country) and while it can be challenging it can be both fun and a big fat pain in the butt.
If you are not up to it...the. By all means sell the car now...
No shame isn't that...buy a c6 as parts are easier to come by. Like I said I believe the bankruptcy in 2009 added to what you are experiencing with your c5.
Fabulous car, a little extra challenges and your out. I can respect your decision...
I've been there 30 odd years ago with a low volume vehicle sold in the USA and it eventually motivated me to sell and move on..,
Nothing wrong with that logic....
Good luck...
Fwiw c5 s have impressively held their value while c6 s are still dropping. I don't imagine you'll be out too much money should you decide to buy a newer corvette
I've owned vehicles that were rare (500 in the country) and while it can be challenging it can be both fun and a big fat pain in the butt.
If you are not up to it...the. By all means sell the car now...
No shame isn't that...buy a c6 as parts are easier to come by. Like I said I believe the bankruptcy in 2009 added to what you are experiencing with your c5.
Fabulous car, a little extra challenges and your out. I can respect your decision...
I've been there 30 odd years ago with a low volume vehicle sold in the USA and it eventually motivated me to sell and move on..,
Nothing wrong with that logic....
Good luck...
Fwiw c5 s have impressively held their value while c6 s are still dropping. I don't imagine you'll be out too much money should you decide to buy a newer corvette
this is why I'm really enjoying my lt1 4th gen camaro at the moment. Sure it's a million miles behind a c5, but it's not loaded with complicated computers so relatively easy to service and maintain. Plenty of discontinued parts but there's either aftermarket or I can fabricate something up myself.
both are left hand drive, which is cool enough for me considering we drive on the left side of the road =)
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10-20-2017, 04:38 PM
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It's reasons like this that we need to support stronger "Right to Repair" laws:
https://ifixit.org/blog/8780/apple-right-to-repair/
https://repair.org/
"The proposed Right to Repair laws (known as the Fair Repair Act in some states) are designed to make it easier for people to repair their broken electronic equipment—like cell phones, computers, appliances, cameras, and even tractors. The legislation would require manufacturers to release repair information to the public and sell spare parts to owners and independent repair shops. If passed, the laws would give consumers more options than just the manufacturer for repair."
GM should be handing over the schematics etc. for parts that they've discontinued.
https://ifixit.org/blog/8780/apple-right-to-repair/
https://repair.org/
"The proposed Right to Repair laws (known as the Fair Repair Act in some states) are designed to make it easier for people to repair their broken electronic equipment—like cell phones, computers, appliances, cameras, and even tractors. The legislation would require manufacturers to release repair information to the public and sell spare parts to owners and independent repair shops. If passed, the laws would give consumers more options than just the manufacturer for repair."
GM should be handing over the schematics etc. for parts that they've discontinued.
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10-20-2017, 04:44 PM
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It's reasons like this that we need to support stronger "Right to Repair" laws:
https://www.google.com/search?q=righ...hrome&ie=UTF-8
GM should be handing over the schematics etc. for parts that they've discontinued.
https://www.google.com/search?q=righ...hrome&ie=UTF-8
GM should be handing over the schematics etc. for parts that they've discontinued.
10-20-2017, 04:45 PM
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It's reasons like this that we need to support stronger "Right to Repair" laws:
https://www.google.com/search?q=righ...hrome&ie=UTF-8
GM should be handing over the schematics etc. for parts that they've discontinued.
https://www.google.com/search?q=righ...hrome&ie=UTF-8
GM should be handing over the schematics etc. for parts that they've discontinued.
I never could understand the reasoning behind not letting anyone else have the plans to something if it's no longer going to be produced by the originator. They're obviously not making any money if they're no longer producing and selling the product. Why not let someone else have it, or sell it to them so they can put it on the aftermarket...makes no sense...
10-20-2017, 04:54 PM
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Not sure if the government should get involved. It cost GM millions of dollars for design and development. It is their product. Should they hand over everything to other companies so they can profit from their work? GM does not want cars to last forever. It is bad for business.
If it renders a product disabled/useless and they're not making it available for sale, then yes, they should.
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10-20-2017, 05:11 PM
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It's not really a monopoly. Other companies have every right to develop their own fixes and parts. They just don't want to spend the money. Big government forcing companies to do things that benefit other companies is not free market. Car manufacturers are only required to supply parts for a certain amount of time. That seems fair to me and it is how things have been done for quite awhile. I don't think consumer protection laws are meant to keep 20 year old cars on the road.
10-20-2017, 05:55 PM
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Just send China a C5. In a few months, they'll have every part available on eBay. Expect about a 5 week shipping time. 
10-20-2017, 08:14 PM
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10-20-2017, 08:15 PM
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10-21-2017, 08:21 AM
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It's not really a monopoly. Other companies have every right to develop their own fixes and parts. They just don't want to spend the money. Big government forcing companies to do things that benefit other companies is not free market. Car manufacturers are only required to supply parts for a certain amount of time. That seems fair to me and it is how things have been done for quite awhile. I don't think consumer protection laws are meant to keep 20 year old cars on the road.
I agree, but auto makers should make exceptions (on their own, not forced by the gov) for certain vehicles. Corvettes aren't the typical run-of-the-mill cars. Most people who own them treat them more like exotics than daily drivers, that's why these car tend to be around a lot longer than say your typical sedan, SUV, or minivan. Knowing this, it would actually be good business for GM to keep parts available, even if they lose money doing it...
10-21-2017, 08:24 AM
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10-21-2017, 08:46 AM
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I wasn't saying it happens with all vehicles, but with most. There are cases where cars turn out to be great investments, without using them much.
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10-21-2017, 09:38 AM
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It's reasons like this that we need to support stronger "Right to Repair" laws:
https://ifixit.org/blog/8780/apple-right-to-repair/
https://repair.org/
"The proposed Right to Repair laws (known as the Fair Repair Act in some states) are designed to make it easier for people to repair their broken electronic equipment—like cell phones, computers, appliances, cameras, and even tractors. The legislation would require manufacturers to release repair information to the public and sell spare parts to owners and independent repair shops. If passed, the laws would give consumers more options than just the manufacturer for repair."
GM should be handing over the schematics etc. for parts that they've discontinued.
https://ifixit.org/blog/8780/apple-right-to-repair/
https://repair.org/
"The proposed Right to Repair laws (known as the Fair Repair Act in some states) are designed to make it easier for people to repair their broken electronic equipment—like cell phones, computers, appliances, cameras, and even tractors. The legislation would require manufacturers to release repair information to the public and sell spare parts to owners and independent repair shops. If passed, the laws would give consumers more options than just the manufacturer for repair."
GM should be handing over the schematics etc. for parts that they've discontinued.
10-21-2017, 09:53 AM
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I agree, but auto makers should make exceptions (on their own, not forced by the gov) for certain vehicles. Corvettes aren't the typical run-of-the-mill cars. Most people who own them treat them more like exotics than daily drivers, that's why these car tend to be around a lot longer than say your typical sedan, SUV, or minivan. Knowing this, it would actually be good business for GM to keep parts available, even if they lose money doing it...
The Corvette. It is what it is. You have to accept it or move on.
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10-21-2017, 12:09 PM
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If it aint doing it for you move on too many fun cars to experience
Like the C5 but hate its electronics that kills it for me.
Who is going to be making replacement modules and wiring harnesses in 20 yrs, noone. Use it up throw it out youll have some memroies to look back on other than a pic of it in the garage trust me.
I don't know anyone who keeps a vehicle forever...I certainly don't...
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10-21-2017, 12:43 PM
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Not even close. The vehicle fan market is very small. For every 1 person that wants t keep his car running for decades there are 100,000 thats trade in for a new car in less than 10 years.
10-21-2017, 01:43 PM
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That kind of what I said. There is no money for the automaker in keeping that one guy's car running for decades and they would rather sell him new one.