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Old Dec 21, 2017 | 09:17 AM
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Hello Forum,
Happy Holidays!
I wanted to ask what would be some good tires for the front.
I'm planning on slapping these on some recently purchased HRE 547's.
I was lucky to buy a couple new Goodyear Supercar 295/35/18's for the rear. The new GY SC fronts are running 7 bills, more that what I would like to spend, I can get some Toyo Proxes, 265/40-17, for about 1 bill each.
I don't drive my car much and when I do it's normal city driving,
Appreciate the feedback.
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Those are nice looking wheels!
Hopefully someone has run a tire set up like you are suggesting and could speak more authoritatively, but I've never been a fan of two different tread patterns, and tire compounds (except for drag racing when obviously you're running slicks or drag radials on the rear). One of the biggest concerns I have with dissimilar tires is having rubber on front and rear that may act very differently on wet roads.
However, your proposal may be no issue at all. Surely someone on here has run the same combo and can advise you.
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Old Dec 22, 2017 | 02:11 AM
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Kinda with Route99. I bought my Z with brand new F1 rears and basically bald fronts. I'd spring for the same fronts (and did). If I could do it again i would have sold the rears and bought 4 new.
Will likely eventually flip 18's up front. Another option for you.
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Cool new wheels, and you want to mix tires front/rear is NOT cool!

...maybe some ‘runflats’ for the front?

What are the specs on the wheels?

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Front wheels are 17's (9" inside lip) and 18s (10" inside lip).

Originally Posted by JETZ
Cool new wheels, and you want to mix tires front/rear is NOT cool!

...maybe some ‘runflats’ for the front?

What are the specs on the wheels?

frank
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Old Dec 22, 2017 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JETZ
Cool new wheels, and you want to mix tires front/rear is NOT cool!

...maybe some ‘runflats’ for the front?

What are the specs on the wheels?

frank
Mixing tires on the same axle is considered a poor choice (and even then still debatable when not on a steering axle) but front to rear there is nothing at all wrong with that. Only mythology and anecdotal opinion.

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Mixing tires on the same axle is considered a poor choice (and even then still debatable when not on a steering axle) but front to rear there is nothing at all wrong with that. Only mythology and anecdotal opinion.

To suggest that one answer to a question is mythological and anecdotal would imply that the other answer to the question is substantiated by fact and data. I've looked at the concept of mixing tread patterns in multiple sources. What I've discovered is virtually every tire manufacturer recommends using 4 of the same tire. Of course, one could argue that they only want to sell tires. Maybe. Or maybe, they do this for legal reasons to cover their 6 if someone has a problem on mismatched sets of tires and wants to sue one, both (or even the three or four) of the tire manufacturers for the rubber on their car. Interestingly, Tire Rack also recommends against this and they will sell you 1,2,3 or 4 of whatever tire you want to order.

Hydroplaning is neither mythological nor anecdotal. Tread design is recognized as a factor in how prone or resistant to hydroplaning a tire is. Studies related to the success of tread designs related to lowering the risk of hydroplaning have been published by various study groups or institutions including The National Academy of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine: “Effectiveness of Tire-Tread Patterns in Reducing the Risk of Hydroplaning”; NASA: “
Phenomena of Pneumatic Tire Hydroplaning”; Davidson Laboratory, Stevens Institute of Technology: “A Systematic Experimental Investigation of Significant Parameters Affecting Model Tire Hydroplaning”; Journal of the Eastern Asia Society for Transportation Studies, Vol.8 “Analyzing Effect of Tire Groove Patterns on Hydroplaning Speed” and other studies.

Do any of these studies say you are a terrible person if you mix tread patterns – No. However, they do provide some substantiation to a comment that mixing tread patterns could have an effect on hydroplaning. Unfortunately, for all of us, tires are expensive so it's understandable we sometimes want to take the least expensive route. We just have to be aware of the possible pitfalls.
Hopefully with the tire mixture the OP was suggesting, the rear tires will be better at dissipating water than the front. After all, it is much easier to recover from understeer than oversteer.

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First of all, where is everyone looking at these wheels? There are no pictures on my website. Secondly, I would have saved my money and not bought the Goodyears. You could buy four much better tires for not much more than the price of those Goodyears. They were the worst tires I have ever owned. Noisy, terrible ride, and poor in rain come to mind, and expensive in comparison.
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Noobie goes to the head of the class!

Plus putting mixed tires on ‘HRE’s’ to me looks low rent. Save up some dough, and do it right the first time...but that’s just me.

BTW: I run HRE.’s, with P Zero tires...on ALL four wheels!

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To suggest that one answer to a question is mythological and anecdotal would imply that the other answer to the question is substantiated by fact and data. I've looked at the concept of mixing tread patterns in multiple sources. What I've discovered is virtually every tire manufacturer recommends using 4 of the same tire. Of course, one could argue that they only want to sell tires. Maybe. Or maybe, they do this for legal reasons to cover their 6 if someone has a problem on mismatched sets of tires and wants to sue one, both (or even the three or four) of the tire manufacturers for the rubber on their car. Interestingly, Tire Rack also recommends against this and they will sell you 1,2,3 or 4 of whatever tire you want to order.

Hydroplaning is neither mythological nor anecdotal. Tread design is recognized as a factor in how prone or resistant to hydroplaning a tire is. Studies related to the success of tread designs related to lowering the risk of hydroplaning have been published by various study groups or institutions including The National Academy of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine: “Effectiveness of Tire-Tread Patterns in Reducing the Risk of Hydroplaning”; NASA: “
Phenomena of Pneumatic Tire Hydroplaning”; Davidson Laboratory, Stevens Institute of Technology: “A Systematic Experimental Investigation of Significant Parameters Affecting Model Tire Hydroplaning”; Journal of the Eastern Asia Society for Transportation Studies, Vol.8 “Analyzing Effect of Tire Groove Patterns on Hydroplaning Speed” and other studies.

Do any of these studies say you are a terrible person if you mix tread patterns – No. However, they do provide some substantiation to a comment that mixing tread patterns could have an effect on hydroplaning. Unfortunately, for all of us, tires are expensive so it's understandable we sometimes want to take the least expensive route. We just have to be aware of the possible pitfalls.
Hopefully with the tire mixture the OP was suggesting, the rear tires will be better at dissipating water than the front. After all, it is much easier to recover from understeer than oversteer.
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Old Dec 23, 2017 | 03:25 AM
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I just changed out my fronts with Hankook Venius 245/45 ZR17 X I ordered from Walmart for 236.71 and it cost me 40 bucks to have them mounted and balance. Still have the Goodyear Runflats a PO put on years back. Loved the change in driving the new fronts gave the car. Find no problems with different types of tires on the front from the rear. But, I'm just a cruise about type of person.
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I have HRE 547s. I'm running Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ on the front, Continental DWS06 on the rear. Car handles beautifully.
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Originally Posted by cat_gzz
Hello Forum,
Happy Holidays!
I wanted to ask what would be some good tires for the front.
I'm planning on slapping these on some recently purchased HRE 547's.
I was lucky to buy a couple new Goodyear Supercar 295/35/18's for the rear. The new GY SC fronts are running 7 bills, more that what I would like to spend, I can get some Toyo Proxes, 265/40-17, for about 1 bill each.
I don't drive my car much and when I do it's normal city driving,
Appreciate the feedback.
Cat

7 billion for tires is outlandish ...
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Old Dec 28, 2017 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ZEEZERO-6
7 billion for tires is outlandish ...
In my neck of the woods (old man talk for where I grew up, BC Canada), a bill or 7 bills is common term for a hundred spot, a brown, a hun...
$1 coin is a loonie due to a loon (bird) being o the back
$2 coin caught on thus as a toonie
$5 bill is a fiver or a 5 spot
$10 bill is a tenner or 10 spot
$20 bill is just a twenty
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