Notices
C5 General General C5 Corvette and C5 Z06 Discussion not covered in Tech

Gasoline

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 09:16 PM
  #21  
Ed Ramberger's Avatar
Ed Ramberger
Drifting
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,693
Likes: 490
From: Denver, NC
Default

Originally Posted by grantv
Only Chevron ethanol free 104 octane with Techron in my tank. Costs a bit more... but it is a performance car.
Lately our van has been running not too great. Ethanol to blame? Tried the above; runs much better. Now looking for cheaper ethanol free to see how that goes.
FYI - if the motor is stock you are gaining no performance from the 104 - you might even be sacrificing a little. (unless it's a usa/canada rating difference and it's really the same as a 93 in the states - but I believe the 2 places calculate octane the same)

Last edited by Ed Ramberger; Feb 18, 2018 at 09:25 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 09:16 PM
  #22  
StingrayRebel's Avatar
StingrayRebel
Acct Suspended APR 2026 by request
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 10,367
Likes: 1,272
2020 Corvette of the Year Finalist (performance mods)
C5 of Year Winner (performance mods) 2019
Default

Originally Posted by grantv
Only Chevron ethanol free 104 octane with Techron in my tank. Costs a bit more... but it is a performance car.
Lately our van has been running not too great. Ethanol to blame? Tried the above; runs much better. Now looking for cheaper ethanol free to see how that goes.
wow, they sell 104 at the pump in bc??... what mods do you have to need the 104?... you're lucky, there would be a lot of happy campers down here if we had that all over the place... the reason ethanol can make a car that is tuned on gas run like crap is because the stoichiometric afr is a lot different... a car that is tuned for ethanol can run great
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 09:27 PM
  #23  
Ed Ramberger's Avatar
Ed Ramberger
Drifting
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,693
Likes: 490
From: Denver, NC
Default

Originally Posted by Micheluccio
I am a member since Feb 17th 2018...I just bought my 1999 convertible....I asked the dealer what kind of gas to use..!! They told me to do one full tank premium and one full tank regular....What do you guys say..???
https://my.gm.com/content/dam/gmowne...tte_owners.pdf
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 09:50 PM
  #24  
Vetteman Jack's Avatar
Vetteman Jack
Administrator
Supporting Lifetime
Veteran: Navy
St. Jude 20 Year Donor
25 Year Member
Veteran: Reserves
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 367,781
Likes: 24,683
From: In a parallel universe. Currently own 2014 Stingray Coupe.
C7 of the Year - Modified Finalist 2021
MO Events Coordinator
St. Jude Co-Organizer
St. Jude Donor '03 thru '25
NCM Sinkhole Donor
CI 5, 8 & 11 Veteran
Default

The owner's manual recommends premium gas and that is what I would go with. You'll get the maximum performance from the engine by using premium.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 10:14 PM
  #25  
killian96ss's Avatar
killian96ss
Burning Brakes
Supporting Lifetime
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 904
Likes: 295
From: Sacramento, California
Default

I usually run 91 on my stock Z here in Cali, but I have experimented with gas from a local track using 1/2 tank 91 with 1/2 tank 96. This should give me 93-94 octane and I've noticed my car runs smoother, idles smoother and pulls a little bit harder with this mix. The problem is 96 octane is about $7.40 gallon and 91 is about $3.30 a gallon, so it can get pretty expensive trying to run that mix all the time.

Steve
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 10:26 PM
  #26  
grantv's Avatar
grantv
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 5,278
Likes: 539
From: Kelowna BC
Default

Originally Posted by Ed Ramberger
FYI - if the motor is stock you are gaining no performance from the 104 - you might even be sacrificing a little. (unless it's a usa/canada rating difference and it's really the same as a 93 in the states - but I believe the 2 places calculate octane the same)
Basically stock Z, just headers, air box and a tune to optimize those and the fuel I have available.
And that should have been 94, sorry.

Last edited by grantv; Feb 18, 2018 at 10:40 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 10:28 PM
  #27  
Corvette#2's Avatar
Corvette#2
Safety Car
Veteran: Navy
 
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 3,830
Likes: 394
From: Rocky Mountains
Default

The best I can get is tier one with 91 octane. There is supposedly another fuel map for low octane fuel, so like the manual says, you could use 87 or 89 if that's all that's available, maybe way out in the countryside. But the ecu will pull timing and produce less hp. Even with 91 octane, on super hot days, it feels like the engine doesn't pull as hard. I think it's a combination of the high intake temperature and the ecu retarding timing to prevent knock. I would use 93 in the summer if I could find it.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 10:33 PM
  #28  
grantv's Avatar
grantv
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 5,278
Likes: 539
From: Kelowna BC
Default

Originally Posted by neutron82
wow, they sell 104 at the pump in bc??... what mods do you have to need the 104?... you're lucky, there would be a lot of happy campers down here if we had that all over the place... the reason ethanol can make a car that is tuned on gas run like crap is because the stoichiometric afr is a lot different... a car that is tuned for ethanol can run great
Yes, every Chevron station. IIRC Shell offers 93... DAMN... 94 not 104. WTH Grant!?
I don't need the 94, but I did have it tuned to run on 94. Only power adder are intake and headers.
I don't know much about the AFR you referred to, just have read some info on ethanol essentially robbing power and causing issues. I found this mostly on a Caravan forum wondering why it ran rough. Running ethanol free was recommended and it definitely runs better since. The van is supposedly made to run on an ethanol blend. That said... I stored it for basically all last year (with Stabil).

Last edited by grantv; Feb 18, 2018 at 10:35 PM.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Feb 19, 2018 | 09:07 AM
  #29  
Brackets's Avatar
Brackets
Instructor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 247
Likes: 44
From: Vancouver Island British Columbia, Canada
Default

Originally Posted by grantv
Only Chevron ethanol free 94 (edit, typo, auto correct??? Sorry all not 104) octane with Techron in my tank.
Where do you get Techron in Canada Grant? Or do you rely on the quantity already in the Chevron. I've been looking but haven't found any yet.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2018 | 10:49 AM
  #30  
StingrayRebel's Avatar
StingrayRebel
Acct Suspended APR 2026 by request
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 10,367
Likes: 1,272
2020 Corvette of the Year Finalist (performance mods)
C5 of Year Winner (performance mods) 2019
Default

Originally Posted by grantv
Yes, every Chevron station. IIRC Shell offers 93... DAMN... 94 not 104. WTH Grant!?
I don't need the 94, but I did have it tuned to run on 94. Only power adder are intake and headers.
I don't know much about the AFR you referred to, just have read some info on ethanol essentially robbing power and causing issues. I found this mostly on a Caravan forum wondering why it ran rough. Running ethanol free was recommended and it definitely runs better since. The van is supposedly made to run on an ethanol blend. That said... I stored it for basically all last year (with Stabil).
lol ok 94 sounds more like it... there are a lot of misconceptions about ethanol but it is actually great if you need it and your car is tuned for it... it can actually allow you to make more power due to it's resistance to detonation, it has an octane rating of around 100-105 so you can add more timing and/or boost safely and that's where the power is gained... it's not unusual to see gains of 50-100rwhp after switching and retuning for ethanol in boosted cars... for the average car a low amount of it mixed in regular gas shouldn't make a huge difference but if you have large amounts of it in a car that isn't tuned to run it (like using e85) then it can run like total crap and lose power... ethanol also burns cleaner, removes more latent heat from the combustion process, cheap, smells good lol, the only downside I can see is that your gas mileage will go down since you have to use more of it
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2018 | 11:21 AM
  #31  
Fcar 98's Avatar
Fcar 98
Melting Slicks
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 3,280
Likes: 1,097
From: Pittsburgh PA
Default

Originally Posted by 4XLR8N
Welcome to the asylum...

As for gas, do yourself a favor and run only Tier1 certified premium. Then, at least once a year, run a bottle of Techron through.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2018 | 11:40 AM
  #32  
grantv's Avatar
grantv
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 5,278
Likes: 539
From: Kelowna BC
Default

Originally Posted by Brackets
Where do you get Techron in Canada Grant? Or do you rely on the quantity already in the Chevron. I've been looking but haven't found any yet.
Just what's in the Chevron fuel. I would think using it 100% of the time (even if obviously in smaller amount) would negate buying it separately.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2018 | 11:42 AM
  #33  
ArmchairArchitect's Avatar
ArmchairArchitect
Banned Scam/Spammer
 
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 4,004
Likes: 3,929
From: Philadelphia PA (Birthplace of the USA, UNESCO World Heritage City)
Default

Just make sure you buy gas from a brand that meets Top Tier specs:
http://www.toptiergas.com/licensedbrands/
https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...h-extra-price/

And yes, I would buy premium as insurance against pinging, detonation etc.

Last edited by ArmchairArchitect; Feb 19, 2018 at 11:43 AM.
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2018 | 04:31 PM
  #34  
royal flush's Avatar
royal flush
Racer
 
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 399
Likes: 31
Default

ONLY Sinclaqir
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2018 | 04:33 PM
  #35  
royal flush's Avatar
royal flush
Racer
 
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 399
Likes: 31
Default

Only SINCLAIR with Dynocare--adds 10 ponys over others--
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2018 | 05:52 PM
  #36  
Velocity_Vette's Avatar
Velocity_Vette
Drifting
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,496
Likes: 353
From: Little Rock Arkansas
Default

To the members that are posting about what it reads in the owner's manual, keep in mind the OP's C5 may not have it. When I bought my C5 the owner's manual wasn't there. It would be a bit presumptuous to assume the OP has the ability to immediately access an owner's manual.

In Re: to the topic I have never ran a fuel grade below premium.
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2018 | 06:03 PM
  #37  
JR-01's Avatar
JR-01
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 8,900
Likes: 1,074
From: Wisconsin
Default

Here is a list of Top Tier Gasoline for those folks that would like to know.

76
Aloha
ARCO
Beacon
BP/Amoco Ultimate
BP Regular
BP Silver
Break Time
Cenex
Chevron
CITGO
Conoco
Co-op
Costco Gasoline
CountryMark
CountryMark Plus
Diamond Shamrock
Esso
Express
Exxon
Hele
Holiday
Kwik Star
Kwik Trip
Kwik Trip Express
Mahalo
Marathon
Metro Petro
MFA
Mobil
OAAI
Ohana Fuels
Petro-Canad
Phillips 66
PUMA Energy Caribe
QT
QuikTrip
Road Ranger
Shamrock
Shell
Sinclair
Standard
Sunoco Ultratech
SuperAmerica
SuperFuel
Tempo
Texaco
Tri-Par Qwik Stop
Valero
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Gasoline

Old Feb 21, 2018 | 06:05 PM
  #38  
StingrayRebel's Avatar
StingrayRebel
Acct Suspended APR 2026 by request
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 10,367
Likes: 1,272
2020 Corvette of the Year Finalist (performance mods)
C5 of Year Winner (performance mods) 2019
Default

Originally Posted by royal flush
Only SINCLAIR with Dynocare--adds 10 ponys over others--
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2018 | 06:17 PM
  #39  
royal flush's Avatar
royal flush
Racer
 
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 399
Likes: 31
Default

Originally Posted by JR-01
Here is a list of Top Tier Gasoline for those folks that would like to know.

76
Aloha
ARCO
Beacon
BP/Amoco Ultimate
BP Regular
BP Silver
Break Time
Cenex
Chevron
CITGO
Conoco
Co-op
Costco Gasoline
CountryMark
CountryMark Plus
Diamond Shamrock
Esso
Express
Exxon
Hele
Holiday
Kwik Star
Kwik Trip
Kwik Trip Express
Mahalo
Marathon
Metro Petro
MFA
Mobil
OAAI
Ohana Fuels
Petro-Canad
Phillips 66
PUMA Energy Caribe
QT
QuikTrip
Road Ranger
Shamrock
Shell
Sinclair
Standard
Sunoco Ultratech
SuperAmerica
SuperFuel
Tempo
Texaco
Tri-Par Qwik Stop
Valero
MY question is--HOW OFTEN are the pumps checked at Top Tier stations? Cheked to make sure the Xtra adatives have been put in--anyone know? Another question is--when are the adatives put in--i have heard all fuel comes out of same pipeline--tankers fill up with that gas but when do they add xtra stuff?

Last edited by royal flush; Feb 21, 2018 at 06:40 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2018 | 06:20 PM
  #40  
JR-01's Avatar
JR-01
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 8,900
Likes: 1,074
From: Wisconsin
Default

Originally Posted by royal flush
MY question is--HOW OFTEN are the pumps checked at Top Tier stations? Cheked to make sure the Xtra adatives have been put in--anyone know?
Good question. I do know a few years ago a local station was fined for not having the right gas, so someone must be checking them.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:52 AM.

story-0
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-1
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-3
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE