Best way to protect my polished CCW Classics?
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Best way to protect my polished CCW Classics?
Hey guys having trouble keeping my CCW classics polished with the light rain we've been getting in Socal. I've had quite a few sets of polished wheels before but never had this bad of a problem!
I try to hand wash my car once a week every week, its my daily driver. I had the CCW's freshly polished at a shop about 4 months ago, in those 4 months there has been zero pitting or spotting, but once the rain started its almost as if its acid rain or something eating the metal.
Almost exactly one week ago I went to wash down my wheels after the rain and nothing came off!
I spent the next 3+ hours hand polishing them using Mothers Mag & Aluminum polish and they went back to a nice mirror finish. I was hoping now they would be sealed and protected for the next rain.
Here are some before / after Mothers Mag & Aluminum polish
This past weekend it poured again, Yesterday it cleared up,I went to wash off my car and my wheels are just as bad again! literally 7 days later and they look destroyed. Now another 3+ hours bent over hand polishing them to make them look half way decent.
Heres how they look in 7 days.
This does NOT wipe off, I have to polish and scrub hard to get them to shine again and remove the spots.
Is there anything that will actually protect them? Or should I just get them powdercoated / painted and be done with the polished aluminum?
I try to hand wash my car once a week every week, its my daily driver. I had the CCW's freshly polished at a shop about 4 months ago, in those 4 months there has been zero pitting or spotting, but once the rain started its almost as if its acid rain or something eating the metal.
Almost exactly one week ago I went to wash down my wheels after the rain and nothing came off!
I spent the next 3+ hours hand polishing them using Mothers Mag & Aluminum polish and they went back to a nice mirror finish. I was hoping now they would be sealed and protected for the next rain.
Here are some before / after Mothers Mag & Aluminum polish
This past weekend it poured again, Yesterday it cleared up,I went to wash off my car and my wheels are just as bad again! literally 7 days later and they look destroyed. Now another 3+ hours bent over hand polishing them to make them look half way decent.
Heres how they look in 7 days.
This does NOT wipe off, I have to polish and scrub hard to get them to shine again and remove the spots.
Is there anything that will actually protect them? Or should I just get them powdercoated / painted and be done with the polished aluminum?
Last edited by ZO6_Dom; 03-12-2018 at 06:56 PM.
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I have never had that problem with my CCW wheels. What a mess and I know how much effort it takes to keep the looking great.
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OP if you use the advanced search feature and just type in: clearcoat polished wheels....... you will find a dozen different discussions on this particular topic with several alternatives for you to consider.
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Also once you clearcoat you can never "polish" them again, over time the clear coat yellows and peels.
Im okay with hand polishing my wheels once every few months but every time it rains, weekly to get this bad is insane! I've had other raw polished aluminum wheels and never had this problem
Last edited by ZO6_Dom; 03-12-2018 at 07:42 PM.
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Research Aluminum sealers there are many to choose from, I use Black Diamond but not saying it is the best.
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Man, I can understand your frustration with having to do a time consuming re-polishing so often. Here are a couple of Word files that talk about polishing bare aluminum wheels and then putting a protective coat on them. Read them over and maybe they'll give you some ideas. I also have a file on Refinishing CCW Wheels but it is too large to make as an attachment on the forum. If you would like a copy of it, just send me a PM with your e-mail address and I can send it to you.
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Man, I can understand your frustration with having to do a time consuming re-polishing so often. Here are a couple of Word files that talk about polishing bare aluminum wheels and then putting a protective coat on them. Read them over and maybe they'll give you some ideas. I also have a file on Refinishing CCW Wheels but it is too large to make as an attachment on the forum. If you would like a copy of it, just send me a PM with your e-mail address and I can send it to you.
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You might try ceramic coating the wheels. I have a set of CCW 505As that I’ve not mounted yet, but used an Adams Polishes wheel ceramic coating product that’s supposed to protect the wheels for a long time and make cleanup much easier.
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That seems like excessive pitting to me - could be an issue w/ the billet AL used, an error in their machining/forging(if they're forged)/polishing process too......but at the end of the day its bare AL - no protection, just polished/buffed shiny. There are loads of microscopic pores/fissures that will pit & oxidize.
Best measure - as others mentioned - probably bring the wheels to a reputable paint shop & have them sprayed w/ a couple coats of clear. I'm sure ceramic coatings are good, but they're not going to last as long or provide the same kind of protection from acids/solvents as a clear coat.
Best measure - as others mentioned - probably bring the wheels to a reputable paint shop & have them sprayed w/ a couple coats of clear. I'm sure ceramic coatings are good, but they're not going to last as long or provide the same kind of protection from acids/solvents as a clear coat.
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My suggestion.
After you get the alum. polished, use a good wax on the wheels
I have tried all kinds of polish.
Stopped at the Speed Shop and they wanted me to try
SmithBrite metal polish.
Wow No rubbing at all and it is easy to use and the wheels were as good as pro polish.
A little weird use a cotton ball to apply, one per wheel.
Later good luck.
After you get the alum. polished, use a good wax on the wheels
I have tried all kinds of polish.
Stopped at the Speed Shop and they wanted me to try
SmithBrite metal polish.
Wow No rubbing at all and it is easy to use and the wheels were as good as pro polish.
A little weird use a cotton ball to apply, one per wheel.
Later good luck.
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I've had two different sets of CCWs, and neither of them ever looked like that. On my Camaro, I had Porterfield Racing brake pads, and on my C-5, I had the OE pads.
OP, one other thing, it looks like your bolts are on backward. On all the CCWs I've ever seen, the bolt head is visible, and the retaining nut is on the inside of the wheel....
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+1 for backwards bolts and brake pad issues
I loathe upkeep on my polished wheels as even rainwater or even car wash will try to etch the wheels if it sits in the lips with brake dust. Horrible if I leave it outside for some reason and it rains.
I use the BLACKFIRE products as well ; it’s ‘OK’ I guess. It has a film that you can tell gets greasy when wet. It does help but it’s not really the best issue.
Id like to try some ceramic coating (polymer wax basically) that would hopefully sheer water etc. Its all the rage on paint, and while I’m not 100% sold on it for the effort, I’d like to try it on the wheels.
DO NOT have them polished or cleared if you want to retain the luster. Most end up a little milky.
Ill probably end up breaking down and just vinyl dipping /painting/ powdercoating mine this year. Polished is a bit too showy for me and I’m not much for sitting in lawn chairs behind my car.
I loathe upkeep on my polished wheels as even rainwater or even car wash will try to etch the wheels if it sits in the lips with brake dust. Horrible if I leave it outside for some reason and it rains.
I use the BLACKFIRE products as well ; it’s ‘OK’ I guess. It has a film that you can tell gets greasy when wet. It does help but it’s not really the best issue.
Id like to try some ceramic coating (polymer wax basically) that would hopefully sheer water etc. Its all the rage on paint, and while I’m not 100% sold on it for the effort, I’d like to try it on the wheels.
DO NOT have them polished or cleared if you want to retain the luster. Most end up a little milky.
Ill probably end up breaking down and just vinyl dipping /painting/ powdercoating mine this year. Polished is a bit too showy for me and I’m not much for sitting in lawn chairs behind my car.
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I just refinished a set of auto couture magnafiques for my lexus .
They were brushed finish with a clear coat , stripped down , sanded from 220 to 2000 then machine polished with mothers metal paste.
I'm not aware of any real miracle coatings you can apply to bare aluminum, I will just be using a regular car wax on mine and hope for the best.
Usually you will have to repolish them every couple months regardless.
They were brushed finish with a clear coat , stripped down , sanded from 220 to 2000 then machine polished with mothers metal paste.
I'm not aware of any real miracle coatings you can apply to bare aluminum, I will just be using a regular car wax on mine and hope for the best.
Usually you will have to repolish them every couple months regardless.
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+1 for backwards bolts and brake pad issues
I loathe upkeep on my polished wheels as even rainwater or even car wash will try to etch the wheels if it sits in the lips with brake dust. Horrible if I leave it outside for some reason and it rains.
I use the BLACKFIRE products as well ; it’s ‘OK’ I guess. It has a film that you can tell gets greasy when wet. It does help but it’s not really the best issue.
Id like to try some ceramic coating (polymer wax basically) that would hopefully sheer water etc. Its all the rage on paint, and while I’m not 100% sold on it for the effort, I’d like to try it on the wheels.
DO NOT have them polished or cleared if you want to retain the luster. Most end up a little milky.
Ill probably end up breaking down and just vinyl dipping /painting/ powdercoating mine this year. Polished is a bit too showy for me and I’m not much for sitting in lawn chairs behind my car.
I loathe upkeep on my polished wheels as even rainwater or even car wash will try to etch the wheels if it sits in the lips with brake dust. Horrible if I leave it outside for some reason and it rains.
I use the BLACKFIRE products as well ; it’s ‘OK’ I guess. It has a film that you can tell gets greasy when wet. It does help but it’s not really the best issue.
Id like to try some ceramic coating (polymer wax basically) that would hopefully sheer water etc. Its all the rage on paint, and while I’m not 100% sold on it for the effort, I’d like to try it on the wheels.
DO NOT have them polished or cleared if you want to retain the luster. Most end up a little milky.
Ill probably end up breaking down and just vinyl dipping /painting/ powdercoating mine this year. Polished is a bit too showy for me and I’m not much for sitting in lawn chairs behind my car.
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polish them up, and have a body shop or a wheel painter clear coat them