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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 10:51 AM
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New to Corvette Forum. What's the big deal about jacking the rear of the car to get all the
oil out. Change my oil every year ( 2,000 to 4,000 miles ). Seems dangerous to do
what is recommended. Am retired now and have time to take care of a few issues.
Brake fluid , sway bar links. 1998 coupe, so it needs some attention.
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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 11:16 AM
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It has to do with the oil pan design to get the car lower/flatter underneath. The design is referred to as "bat wing" and doesn't look like your traditional oil pan. Also the drain plug is facing the front of the car. At any rate the car needs to be level to change the oil. I use homemade ramps to lift the front, drain the oil (warmed up car of course) and when the flow slows to a trickle use a floor jack to slowly raise the rear until somewhat level. Use a block of wood between the Jack and rear cross member. Significantly more oil will come out.

Congrats on retirement and more time to do the fun things in life!

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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 11:28 AM
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Because the drain plug is at the front of the pan, if you have the front on ramps, there is some that won't drain out.

So you jack the rear slightly higher than the front to get the rest out.

What I've always done since spring 2003 when getting the C5, and I'm very careful as I know it's possible the front wheels could roll off the ramps as the car is being jacked up in the rear, I go slow, last time I used a mini level on top of the intake to see what angle the engine is at to not have to jack anymore than needed.

I never get under the car or leave car unattended while the rear is jacked, I look underneath from the side of the car, not from the back(in case it was to roll backwards off the ramps and wheels of floor jack).

You are probably ok just letting it drain without jacking up the rear, I'm slightly OCD and want as much oil out as possible.



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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 11:30 AM
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I always like to get as much of the old oil out as possible so I change it on a fairly steep hill with some low ramps on the front (making sure I, put it in gear, set the parking brake, AND chock the rear wheels).

As far as oil goes, I only use Motul 8100 X-max 5w-30. I'm sure that the difference between it and Mobil 1 is negligible to non-existent...but I like the fact that it's specifically formulated for extended oil change intervals in high performance engines. It gives me a (probably completely unjustified) warm, fuzzy feeling.
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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 11:40 AM
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Some folks get concerns about removing the last pint of oil. After servicing marine engines for many years where the oil is frequently removed by pumps Although I try I don't get too excited about removing the last drop. Newer oils are improved, filters are better and if you get most of it out and use the dipstick to determine the proper fill amount you will be fine.
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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 12:02 PM
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Thanks again. Retirement is very busy.
Appreciate your quick response Wonder if the dealerships do it.
All the dealerships in my area send their Corvette work to my dealership.
My son used to work there selling Chevrolet. Interesting how they are allotted
only so many Corvettes a year.
Was taught to never go under a car unless it was double blocked. Always did
my Corvette oil changes on ramps.Always careful not to overfill.
Was looking for a suction pump to try to get more oil out.
only $20.
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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 12:05 PM
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Am going to get a suction pump ( $15-$20 ) to try to get more oil out.
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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Rocky48
...What's the big deal about jacking the rear of the car to get all the oil out?...
Originally Posted by 2TONE82
It has to do with the oil pan design to get the car lower/flatter underneath. The design is referred to as "bat wing" and doesn't look like your traditional oil pan. Also the drain plug is facing the front of the car. At any rate the car needs to be level to change the oil...
I begin with a horizontally leveled car and, when it's just trickling, finish up with a very slight inclination to the front. As it can be seen here, it's impossible to really get all the oil out because of the internal baffling and the way the chambers connect to each other . Raising the back of the car too much could make things worse .


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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 01:37 PM
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The oil pan picture is worth a thousand works. Will try my suction pump from HFT and let
you know how much more can be taken out.
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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 01:46 PM
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I just jack up drivers side--drain oil--change filter--add 6.5 qts--check and usually about 1/2 qt below full mark--cant be much in pan if at 6.5 qts its below full mark--
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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 02:03 PM
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Just changed mine in my 03 vert. I put it on all four jack stands, slid underneath it from the drivers side behind the front wheel and took out the drain plug then removed the filter.
I let it drain for about 5 minutes while I got my new oil ready and filled the new filter up.
I slid back under on the drivers side behind the front wheel again and put on the new filter and put in the plug.
Got out and put in 6 quarts of Dexos 5-30 synthetic oil and started it up and checked for leaks. No leaks so I took out the jack stands and put it back on the ground.
After I got it warm I let it sit for about a few minutes and then topped it off and reset my dic indicator.
Took me about 45 minutes and I am old and fat and not in a hurry.
I love doing this stuff!!
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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 03:28 PM
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Not dangerous at all to jack the rear a little higher than the front, IMO.

I use race ramps with bump stops at the end but I actually put a chock onto it to make a much bigger stop. Drive on. Jack rear a little higher than the front, put it on stands. It doesn't move.

Dealers and shops jack it flat which is why they add about 0.5 quart less than if you tilt it a little forward.
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I just jack up driver side - put a low profile pan under the car, pull plug, lower the jack and let it drain for 10-15 min. Then jack back up, install filter, install plug and refill. Of course put something under the tire or a jack stand in place just in case.
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I put the front tires on a set of Rhino Ramps, jack up the rear to where it is slightly higher than the front, use some jack stands in the rear for added safety and drain the oil. Been doing that with all three C5s that I have had and it works well for me.
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Originally Posted by Vetteman Jack
I put the front tires on a set of Rhino Ramps, jack up the rear to where it is slightly higher than the front, use some jack stands in the rear for added safety and drain the oil. Been doing that with all three C5s that I have had and it works well for me.
With the feedback given. Forum members are safety conscious. Changed my oil, and now see why you want to lift the back of the
C5. Thanks all.
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Old Nov 11, 2018 | 09:51 AM
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Unless you’re racing your car I think every 3000 miles is probably a little excessive. Is it closer to a year old when you do it? I’m not a mechanic so I will let others chime in that may know better, I thought it might be worth pointing out.
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I warm up the car first, and use my QuickJack with the taller blocks in the rear. Works perfect!
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Originally Posted by Rocky48
New to Corvette Forum. What's the big deal about jacking the rear of the car to get all the
oil out. Change my oil every year ( 2,000 to 4,000 miles ). Seems dangerous to do
what is recommended. Am retired now and have time to take care of a few issues.
Brake fluid , sway bar links. 1998 coupe, so it needs some attention.
It is not necessary to raise the rear. The amount of residual oil in the pan is insignificant.
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Unless you’re racing your car I think every 3000 miles is probably a little excessive. Is it closer to a year old when you do it? I’m not a mechanic so I will let others chime in that may know better, I thought it might be worth pointing out.
Agreed. Just once a year. Put on 2-4,000 miles a year. Cheap insurance for engine.
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Originally Posted by Rocky48

Agreed. Just once a year. Put on 2-4,000 miles a year. Cheap insurance for engine.
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