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I have a 2004 Z06 Z16 CE. I want to try some autocross and maybe just maybe some HPDE. The car is still primarily a street car and will be driven to and from the track. It has headers, X-pipe and a cold air intake. I am not interested in more HP. I want a safe car that handles well. I am keeping the stock wheel size and have an set of extra wheels which I may mount the Goodyear F1 tires onto.
My question is which Hawk pad should I put on it and which brake fluid? I am seriously considering new rotors too.
I have seen videos of a Corvette with boiling brake fluid in a HPDE event and it wasn't pretty. Safety is a priority.
My advice is to use your street pads on the street and swap in some DTC-60 when you go to the track. I tried the half assed solution with HP+ pads, but they sqealed on the street and faded at the track. They aren't that hard to change.
Last edited by ptindall; Nov 26, 2018 at 04:17 PM.
I have a 2004 Z06 Z16 CE. I want to try some autocross and maybe just maybe some HPDE. The car is still primarily a street car and will be driven to and from the track. It has headers, X-pipe and a cold air intake. I am not interested in more HP. I want a safe car that handles well. I am keeping the stock wheel size and have an set of extra wheels which I may mount the Goodyear F1 tires onto.
My question is which Hawk pad should I put on it and which brake fluid? I am seriously considering new rotors too.
I have seen videos of a Corvette with boiling brake fluid in a HPDE event and it wasn't pretty. Safety is a priority.
Thanks.
For street and AX the HPS or HPS 5.0 are fine. Track use is a separate thing entirely as there is no 'both' pads.
Track brake fluid is also pretty much a necessity.
If you are just going to try HPDE and AutoX, you should look at the Carbotec AX6 pads, for both street and performance, while they will dust they will easily wash off.
If you are looking for options besides Hawk take a look at some Carbotech compounds below. I would say your best bet for doing AX and HPDE plus street is the XP8 compound.The great thing about Carbotech is all their compounds are compatible with each other. So.when going from Auto X to HPDE all you have to do is swap pads and go no re-bedding no cleaning of the rotors just swap pads and go.
Carbotech™ 1521™
The Carbotech™ 1521™ is our high performance street compound. The 1521™ compound is known for its release and modulation, along with unmatched rotor friendliness. 1521™ is also a very low dusting and low noise compound with an excellent initial bite. This compound’s excellent linear torque production provides incredible braking force without ABS intervention. Carbotech™ 1521™ operating range starts out at ambient and goes up to 800°F (426°C+). 1521™ is suitable for ALL street cars, perfect for your tow vehicle or fleet vehicle. Carbotech™ 1521™ is NOT recommended for ANY track use.
Carbotech™ AX6™
The AX6™ is specifically engineered for Autocross applications. A high torque brake compound delivering reliable and consistent performance over a very wide operating temperature range of 50°F to 1000°F + (10°C to 537°C+). The advanced compound matrix provides an excellent initial bite, high coefficient of friction at lower temperatures along with very progressive brake modulation and release characteristics. Many drivers use the AX6™ for street driving as well, even though Carbotech™ doesn’t recommend street driving with AX6™ due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise. AX6™ is NOT recommended as a race compound in most applications.
Carbotech™ XP8™
A high torque brake compound with a wide operating temperature range of 200°F-1250°F+ (93°C to 676°C+). Carbotech™ XP8™ is the first of our racing compounds. Good initial bite at race temperatures, high coefficient of friction, excellent modulation and release characteristics. Extremely high fade resistance and very rotor friendly. Perfect for track day use with any tire and can still be driven safely to and from the track. Carbotech™ does NOT recommended XP8™ as a daily driven street pad due to elevated levels of dust and noise. Carbotech™ XP8™ is a great compound on the front & rear of most open wheel and sports racers.
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Originally Posted by smitty2919
HP+ for street and autox but they are dusty.
and a little noisy but not a big deal to me... I run the hp+ on my c6z brake swap just for the street, 1/2 mile, stuff like that (I don't do any road course type racing) and from 160 or so just a few taps on the brake pedal and I'm back down to regular speed so they do what I need them to do
Hawk just updated the HP+ and they are phasing out the "street/race" aka DTC-30 pads in favor of the new HP+. Supposed to easier on rotors, last longer, not as noisy all while performing better too. HP+ was an aging pad. I might give the new ones a shot next time around.
Hawk just updated the HP+ and they are phasing out the "street/race" aka DTC-30 pads in favor of the new HP+. Supposed to easier on rotors, last longer, not as noisy all while performing better too. HP+ was an aging pad. I might give the new ones a shot next time around.
and a little noisy but not a big deal to me... I run the hp+ on my c6z brake swap just for the street, 1/2 mile, stuff like that (I don't do any road course type racing) and from 160 or so just a few taps on the brake pedal and I'm back down to regular speed so they do what I need them to do
Yep. I ran them on the front of my 95 Camaro daily driver and for autocross toy. Don't have really nice wheels with them and or plan to clean them DAILY lol.
My c5 will get HP+...and by the looks of things, I guess I'll get the new version by the time I buy some.